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I just ordered my first semi inlet stock but I don't really have many woodworking tools. Can someone give me a list of the basic tools I will need. I'm on a budget so I only plan on buying the tools that I truly need at first.

The only tool that I have found that I think I should definitely get is a Nicholson #50 rasp. So what else do I absolutely need to finish my first stock?

Thanks
Also does anyone know of any good places to get things like sling studs, grip caps, ebony blocks for the tip, and recoil pads/butt plates. I like the looks of the older classic custom rifles so I would like to get hardware that isn't modern plastic stuff.

thanks again
Brownell's is your huckleberry.
Inlet-ting hand screws. Barrel channel rasp and some chisels jump to mind.
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/02/14
The Nicholson rasp was a wise decision. Beyond that a Tru-line barrel channel tool is indispensable. A fair selection of good paring chisels, small-ish gouges and a basic set of wood carving chisels to get into the nooks and crannies. If you don't have sharpening stones, now is the time to get them and learn how to use them. I think that area is one where most self taught beginners lack in.

Read a good book on stock making. A couple hours spent doing that will pay dividends.

For finishing, a good semi-hard/flexible sanding block is almost a necessity in order to keep the surfaces from getting wavy. Don't forget the inletting black (a tube of lipstick will do in a pinch).

Probably the most important tool is the one between your ears. Go sloooowly and carefully. Stop when you get fatigued because that is the time most mistakes are made.

I can't imagine doing something like that without a good sturdy vise and work surface, although I know people who have managed without them. Good light to work by is a big big plus.

Start out with what tools you think you'll need and add tools as you come upon their need. Better to wait a couple days for the postman than to forge ahead and get frustrated. That'll help prevent acquiring a pile of stuff you won't use, too.
Posted By: utah708 Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/02/14
Inletting black.

Small machinists square

12" steel ruler that is straight

A copy of Westbrook's Professional Stockmaking, if you can find it for a decent price.
Thanks for the advice everyone.

Are there any particular sized or shaped chisels/gouges that I should get. It seems like there are a million different ones and I'm not quite sure what a good starting point is.

Also will I need anything else to do the shaping of the stock? If so what size and kind of files or rasps?
Awww, just grunge it out with a Dremel... shocked

Then glass the gaps... blush

Just kidding... cool

DF
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/03/14
For shaping the exterior, I would use the rasp you have for the bear's share of the work. Not knowing what you are starting with or the style of the stock I am loathe to recommend anything beyond that, nor am I familiar with your skills and familiarity with hand tools. I know that for myself, a rasp, rat tail file, plenty of sandpaper from 80x down to at least 400x, and a selection of dowels, blocks and pads to wrap the paper onto would allow me to work down an average bolt action stock. If the goal is to incorporate a schnabel and some minor sculpting around the action, then some chisels will be needed too. What style of butt plate/pad and grip cap are we talking? Are you beginning to see why there are a lot of variables that prevent a specific recommendation of tools? Yet another reason to research publications on the subject. When you have a clear concept of the task at hand, then set about gathering tools.

One thing else I'll say is don't be bashful about removing wood. Most newbies shy from exposing the svelte stock that is lurking inside the typical pre-turned blank, resulting in a clubby but functional end product. If you don't have an artist's eye for spacial proportions- get one!
Posted By: 1minute Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/03/14
In a variety of sizes: chisels, gouges, rasps, planes, crossing files, flat and barrel channel scrapers, flat and round sanding blocks, and a level, wood working vice, chain saw file, straight edge, and inletting black/brush.

Last, Wesbrooks Professional Stockmaking book and a ton of patience.

If not in a hurry, Ebay and flea markets could be your friends.
gnoahhh I am pretty new to working on stocks, other than simply refinishing them. The stock is from richard microfit and is a #102 classic which I'll probably end up putting a pachmayr grind to fit pad on. I currently have wesbrooks professional stockmaking book, which I haven't read completely yet, but from what I have read it seems like he has a lot of different tools, which is why I was wondering what the basics were that I would need to get started with. Will the nicholson #50 leave the wood smooth enough to go straight to sanding, or will I need a finer file/rasp?

I definitely get what you are saying about removing enough wood though. I like the looks and the feel of stocks that are trimmed down.

Thanks for the help everyone.
Get a great stock vice to hold stock while working. Save,s a trip to the emergency room because your chisel slipped and went in your wrist!
Posted By: gnoahhh Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/04/14
Originally Posted by thebigcheese109
gnoahhh I am pretty new to working on stocks, other than simply refinishing them. The stock is from richard microfit and is a #102 classic which I'll probably end up putting a pachmayr grind to fit pad on. I currently have wesbrooks professional stockmaking book, which I haven't read completely yet, but from what I have read it seems like he has a lot of different tools, which is why I was wondering what the basics were that I would need to get started with. Will the nicholson #50 leave the wood smooth enough to go straight to sanding, or will I need a finer file/rasp?

I definitely get what you are saying about removing enough wood though. I like the looks and the feel of stocks that are trimmed down.

Thanks for the help everyone.


Yes, the Nicholson rasp will leave a surface that allows going straight to sanding, and removes material like you're melting ice with a blowtorch.
Originally Posted by kk alaska
Get a great stock vice to hold stock while working. Save,s a trip to the emergency room because your chisel slipped and went in your wrist!

Here's my vice. You can get the same thing from Brownells for under $300, or a Chinese knock off like this one for just a fraction of that. I bought rubber backed aluminum vice pads, drilled and tapped to fit the vice. I use it constantly to clean rifles, work on a stock, etc. And I don't have to worry about scratching anything.

DF

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Originally Posted by gnoahhh
Originally Posted by thebigcheese109
gnoahhh I am pretty new to working on stocks, other than simply refinishing them. The stock is from richard microfit and is a #102 classic which I'll probably end up putting a pachmayr grind to fit pad on. I currently have wesbrooks professional stockmaking book, which I haven't read completely yet, but from what I have read it seems like he has a lot of different tools, which is why I was wondering what the basics were that I would need to get started with. Will the nicholson #50 leave the wood smooth enough to go straight to sanding, or will I need a finer file/rasp?

I definitely get what you are saying about removing enough wood though. I like the looks and the feel of stocks that are trimmed down.

Thanks for the help everyone.


Yes, the Nicholson rasp will leave a surface that allows going straight to sanding, and removes material like you're melting ice with a blowtorch.


I sure cannot go from rasp to sandpaper... I would use at least two smoothing files to from the 50 to sandpaper and a Disston Abrader before the files (after the rasp.)
Posted By: mart Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/04/14
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Awww, just grunge it out with a Dremel... shocked

Then glass the gaps... blush

Just kidding... cool

DF


Oh great. Now my secret is out. Thanks a lot DF. laugh
Originally Posted by mart
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Awww, just grunge it out with a Dremel... shocked

Then glass the gaps... blush

Just kidding... cool

DF


Oh great. Now my secret is out. Thanks a lot DF. laugh

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Posted By: Clarkm Re: tools for semi inlet stock - 07/05/14
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I use the Gunline barrel bedding tools.
One of the first assignments we had when I went to gunsmiths school in 1952 was we were required to forge and shape all our wood working gouges,chisels and scrapers. Don't remember the actual number but it was quite a few in various sizes. We made our own barrel rasp at that time also. Those tools have stood up for over 60 years with probably twice the amount added over the years. One of my favorite suppliers in days past was Frank Mittermier (sp) who marketed a line of German wood tools to the gunsmith trade that was excellent. You will never have a complete set and will always be looking for exactly the right tool for the job at hand. All that said you can do a good job on a semi inlet with a Millers Falls Carving tool set Model 107c-6 piece and a couple of cabinet rasps. I have found a horseshoe rasp to be handy. Everything you need is quite probably in Brownells catalog.
Great! Thanks for all the help everyone. Now I just have to wait for the stock to get here.
+1 on the Brownell catalog.

Their tech guys are awesome, give them a call with questions.

DF
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