Do you guys think these vise marks can be made vertually invisible? How?
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... and from the discoloration at the front, does it look like it was heated too much?
Need better pics, Mate.
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Need better pic to see the depth of the scoring. From that pic though, I'd guess the marks could be stoned out before you lose the Winchester stamping. Of course it will need to be re-blued too.
Bead or sand blast then blue, that will hid scratches, file marks, and vise marks.
Draw file the side and then wrap your file in progressively finer grits of emery cloth and polish the file marks out. Bead blasting will not hide vise or file marks unless they are so small as to be nearly unnoticeable to begin with. If it does you are either using driveway gravel for media or you have the air pressure way to high.
It shouldn't be a problem though, I have a 257Wby I built on a free M70 someone had marked up by removing the barrel aith a pipe wrench. It was way worse than yours and it cleaned up fine.
Bead or sand blast then blue, that will hid scratches, file marks, and vise marks.
Horse chit.
Bead or sand blast then blue, that will hid scratches, file marks, and vise marks.
Horse chit.
Never used horse chit how does that work
Bead or sand blast then blue, that will hid scratches, file marks, and vise marks.
Horse chit.
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Bead or sand blast then blue, that will hid scratches, file marks, and vise marks.
Horse chit.
Think I said hid them not eliminate them, i don't think he's making a show piece, if he was he wouldn't be using a damaged action to start with. If the OP brought his action into my shop and wanted it done right, I would not polish, draw file, sand the marks away. I would electroplated the area where the damage was then reblue the action to his desired finish
So, your electroplating process will hide scratches, file marks, and vise marks ? Amazing...
The answer is YES, and yes it is. You still didn't tell me how horse chit works
Sure would like to see some of your work, you know, before and after. Horse chit is sorta like bull chit. And I'm sure you know how it works. And so do I.
Now you have to electroplate it before you bead blast it to hide the scratches? That sounds like a heck of a lot more hassle than 20 minutes with a file and some sandpaper.
I've bead blasted literally hundreds if not thousands of guns with glass beads and garnet of various grits. Unless you're using huge grit or your pressure is turned up to mega high PSI blasting anything but the smallest of scratches will not disguise them. Heck lots of the time it seems to magnify them.
Now you have to electroplate it before you bead blast it to hide the scratches? That sounds like a heck of a lot more hassle than 20 minutes with a file and some sandpaper.
I've bead blasted literally hundreds if not thousands of guns with glass beads and garnet of various grits. Unless you're using huge grit or your pressure is turned up to mega high PSI blasting anything but the smallest of scratches will not disguise them. Heck lots of the time it seems to magnify them.
I think I said if he brought it into my shop that's what I would suggest. If he wanted a utility or working grade finish I would blast and blue, maybe lightly polish. And good for you and since we're doing resume. When I worked blueing for one of the major gun manufacturer here in the US, I done that many (hundred if not thousands) in one month. Since quiting there and going on my own I done a few thousands. I offer 5 types of blueing, 3 types of parkerizing, 18 different types of plating, powder coating, and every type of spray on bake on finishs they they came out with.
That's great but I'm still curious as to why you would recommend electroplating? What type of electroplating hides scratches? Every type of plating I've worked with magnifies imperfections.
Does your business have a website? I've never know a single shop to offer so many different finish options, you must have a pretty large operation I'd like to have a look at some of your stuff.
Now you have to electroplate it before you bead blast it to hide the scratches? That sounds like a heck of a lot more hassle than 20 minutes with a file and some sandpaper.
I've bead blasted literally hundreds if not thousands of guns with glass beads and garnet of various grits. Unless you're using huge grit or your pressure is turned up to mega high PSI blasting anything but the smallest of scratches will not disguise them. Heck lots of the time it seems to magnify them.
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1000s in a month? Wow, you're fast!
That's great but I'm still curious as to why you would recommend electroplating? What type of electroplating hides scratches? Every type of plating I've worked with magnifies imperfections.
Does your business have a website? I've never know a single shop to offer so many different finish options, you must have a pretty large operation I'd like to have a look at some of your stuff.
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1000s in a month? Wow, you're fast!
How man guns do you think remington turns out in a month, how many do you think winchester, bushmaster, colt ect turns out in a month
I'm presuming the discoloration at the front is from heating to remove the barrel. Since no one mentions it, I assume you don't feel the action to be compromised.
Leave it as is, rebarrel it, and call it a truck gun. Varmints/predators/game won't know the difference, and you'll have save some time and coin.
I did a 1911 that was severely pitted....I filled the pits with spott puddy and covered with dura coat....first attempt with kg wouldn't hid the pits. It's too thin...dura coat is thick enough..
I think I said if he brought it into my shop that's what I would suggest.
Remind me not to bring anything to your shop!
I think I said if he brought it into my shop that's what I would suggest.
Remind me not to bring anything to your shop!
NO worries I wont have to remind you, I have enough bussiness don't need any of yours.
I'm trying to locate a Winchester 223 barrel for this if anyone has one kicking around.
Bead or sand blast then blue, that will hid scratches, file marks, and vise marks.
Horse chit.
Never used horse chit how does that work
It's not as slick as bullshit. You get more of a matting effect.
It shouldn't be a problem though, I have a 257Wby I built on a free M70 someone had marked up by removing the barrel aith a pipe wrench. .
Heh... On some barrels/actions that's the only way.. Even with the barrel vise and blocks as tight as one can get, sometimes a barrel has to be anchored on the bench with a pipe wrench to keep 'em from pivoting when hitting the action wrench with a mall.. BTDT.. The M70 FWTs are the worst, usually..
It shouldn't be a problem though, I have a 257Wby I built on a free M70 someone had marked up by removing the barrel aith a pipe wrench. .
Heh... On some barrels/actions that's the only way.. Even with the barrel vise and blocks as tight as one can get, sometimes a barrel has to be anchored on the bench with a pipe wrench to keep 'em from pivoting when hitting the action wrench with a mall.. BTDT.. The M70 FWTs are the worst, usually..
I had to do that removing a customer's Remington 700 barrel. It only made two small marks. Really wasn't as bad as I thought it was gonna be.
Yeah, Rem barrels are another one that usually ends up that way.. They have nearly zero shank to grasp onto in a barrel vise.. Besides, most of these barrels are gonna be tossed anyway so the point is moot..
Yeah, Rem barrels are another one that usually ends up that way.. They have nearly zero shank to grasp onto in a barrel vise.. Besides, most of these barrels are gonna be tossed anyway so the point is moot..
that's for sure, I have a 55 gallon barrel for Remington and others that need to go to the scrap yard, I wouldnt say there junk but don't want to deal with putting them on ebay