I've been shooting 45 Colt handguns for sometime now. Just picked up a new Mikoru made Winchester 1892 in 45 Colt; 20" barrel. Is their an increase in pressure when running my handgun loads (285 LBT WFN PB) in a rifle?

Alan

No...

Feeding could be a problem.

Worked slick as snail snot today. Feeding....pressure....etc.

Alan

If the loads are listed "For Ruger and Contender Only" I'd follow that guideline for pressure.
Standard loads will show higher velocity from the longer barrel but (my understanding is) the chamber pressure will be acceptable.
If they feed in your rifle, as Ed has pointed out!

I forgot to add....out of my 5-1/2" Bisley the load runs 1166 fps. From the 20" '92 barrel it ran 1686 fps. That's quite an increase in velocity.


Alan

Don't forget that you're probably loosing 50fps with the revolver just because of the gap.

I just hope 1) the accuracy is as good and 2) the load doesn't lead the barrel.

Alan

If it feeds, you got it whupped...

The JMB designed '92 is very strong, stronger than a Marlin.

It should rock and roll with anything your Bisley can digest.

DF

If it fouls or leads, try a Dyna Bore Coat treatment.

DF

LOVE my DBC. Darn, should have treated it before shooting it but I sooo wanted to squeeze off a few rounds. Cleaning to bare metal, here we come. Better learn how to break it down so I can clean from the breech end.

Alan

Is it a take down model?

You can get a bore guide, some rods come so equipped, and go for it from the muzzle.

DF

Nope. Not a take down. Youtube may be my friend.

Unless you using a Bore Snake, you'll be cleaning from the muzzle.

DF

What about the Youtube videos where they remove the butt stock, lever and bolt? Would one not be able to clean from the rear?

Alan

Yeah, that'll work.

But, a '92 isn't the easiest to take apart.

Why would you want to go to that much trouble?

Muzzle protector and a good rod, you're in business.

You'll have it clean before you get it taken apart, must less put back together.

DF

True that!

A 92 is just about the strongest lever action ever made. I suppose given that the locking lugs are in the rear of the bolt that you might have some brass stretching with really hot loads but the strength is there. Rossi made some in .454 Casul. Isn't that a 60k psi cartridge?

I'd be more likely to go with that plan with a Marlin, as it's much easier to remove the bolt than the '92. Been there, done that with both.

The bore guide and rod from the muzzle is the way to go with the '92.

Then DBC and let us know how it does.

DF

Yep, those pressures are up there.

How many .454 Marlins have you seen...

Like, zero...

They can end up like this. I know, I know, this is a .45-70, the barrel is a bit thin with the large case and the weak spot is at the right of the receiver ahead of the ejection port.

Bottom line, I've never seen a '94, '86 or a '92 looking like this...



DF

I had a 1886 45/70 blow up right next to me at a rifle range.They may be strong,but not indestructible.It was a load of Bluedot with a 500 grain boolet.I think he double charged it.It was a good thing that range had a steel mesh fence between the shooters or I would have had part of the receiver in my face.

Wow!

I guess one could ruin a crowbar with the right ingenuity and enough effort...

I really don't like fast powder in a big case. Just asking for trouble.

My brother had one of the first .41 Mag Blackhawks in our area. He was so proud of that gun. He accidently double charged Unique and split the cylinder. Didn't affect the frame.

He sent it back to Ruger with a full explanation of what had happened, bragged on how strong the gun was to not crack the frame. They rebuilt that gun, no charge. It's the slickest three screw Ruger I've ever handled. A good friend wants my brother to leave it to him in his will...

I ran into Mr. Vogel, Bill Ruger's SIL, at the Ruger booth, 1970 NRA Convention in New Orleans. I related that story and he said he remembered the gun. He said it was the first time someone didn't blame Ruger. While there, Elmer Keith dropped by, checked out the new Security Six and told Mr. Vogle to "wrap it up", in essence giving Ruger his stamp of approval. Mr. Vogel was most gracious, a real gentleman, since departed from this Earth.

DF