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Posted By: Jim_Conrad Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Seven or eight years ago I bought a brand new 1886 45-70. It has the rebounding hammer and tang safety.

I came with the crescent butt stock and it is very uncomfortable for me to shoot it.

Is there an aftermarket source for a shotgun style stock?

So far I have been unable to locate such a stock.

Posted By: kaywoodie Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
http://www.precisiongunstocks.com/contents/en-us/d14.html

Look here. Call em and see if this will fit the Browning or New tang safety Winchester. Bet it will!
Posted By: crshelton Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Jim,
Thouqh your question may have been answered, I must make a comment about the crescent steel buttplate on the Miroku/Winchester 1886.
My Miroku 1886 is a .45-90 and has the steel butt plate. At first, I was testing ammo from the bench rest, shouldering the butt like a shotgun stock and found the crescent to be painful with heavy loads. Then, I learned how to place the lower tip of the butt into my armpit and all was fine. Even with 450 grain bullets at 2150fps, the body just flexes, the barrel rises and comes back down and I am ready for the follow up shot (if needed).
The rifle has never bruised anyone that has shot it with the butt plate properly mounted ad discussed above.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Yessir, rest that crescent around that big balled shoulder muscle, BTW, I have a very nice buttstock and a couple really pretty forends for a '86 Browning, anyone have interest PM me and I'll find em and get em dusted off for some pics.

They are all factory Browning wood and finished by Browning too.
Posted By: FlyboyFlem Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Mine is also a 45-90 however shooting off sticks instead of the bench will tame the recoil no matter the bullet weight you launch downrange.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
Mine is also a 45-90 however shooting off sticks instead of the bench will tame the recoil no matter the bullet weight you launch downrange.


Is that what you was ginning that big pot-o-lead up for today Woody, or the Sharps?
Posted By: FlyboyFlem Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by FlyboyFlem
Mine is also a 45-90 however shooting off sticks instead of the bench will tame the recoil no matter the bullet weight you launch downrange.


Is that what you was ginning that big pot-o-lead up for today Woody, or the Sharps?


Both Jerry, first decent weather window in awhile to get some long overdo casting done before the Arctic air arrives again! 550 gr greaser for the Sharps and some PH #457121 that weigh 485 at 30:1 for the '86.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
I reckon I am doing it wrong, but I have tried shouldering it a few different ways.

I guess I just chalked it up to having very large shoulders. I just cant seem to find a spot where one of the points of the crescent does not rest on the meat.

I will try again tomorrow after reading this.

Thanks for the link for precisiongunstocks.com

Is that a crescent stock Gunner? Might it fit a Miroku?

Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
SWEET, that'll work Woody, I need to cast some 530 gr paper patch bullets for my 45 cal Sharps rifles and some 705 grainers for my 50.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
You can find a comfortable spot JC, I wear a 52" sport coat and found a good spot quick, my Browning was a 45-70 that got Turnbull'd to a 50-110 WCF and still wears the crescent steel butt. grin

I'll go find that butt-stock and see what it is.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
My butt stock is a carbine style butt, it still has the steel butt and is curved, but not as pronounced as the crescent and much wider as well, the butt stock and forends are all checkered and come from high-grade Miroku Brownings.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
My FFA jacket in high school was a 54, I reckon it would take a 62 now.

I will monkey around with it again tomorrow.

Thanks for looking.

My goal was to get started with some cast bullets and black powder.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Hey, thanks! I am familiar with that style, just like the old saddle ring 30-30 i have I bet.

Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
You think the set you have could be made to work on my 1886?
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Yup, that's it, damn 62" coat, you may have to fashion a butt stock out of a wheel barrow. wink
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
I as well as many others here can help with cast bullets and black powder for the 45-70 as well.
Posted By: Jim_Conrad Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
They sure sell a lot of nice smokeless loads for the 45-70.

Just doesn't seem right for some reason. Plus, I have never been around black powder, except for that old blasting powder Grandpa had stashed away. Figured I should try. Thanks for the offer.

I would be interested in that stock set if you think it would work on my rifle.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: Miroku 1886 45-70 - 12/27/16
Yes, if your rifle is a straight grip it should all slide right on.

Black is right on big bore lever rifles as far as I'm concerned too, I shoot it in my 50-110 and an original 1886 in 45-70.
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