I wanted to post this separately from the workout thread so it doesn't get overlooked.

What's the consensus on how, and how long before the "real thing" you guys taper off your workouts? Or to put it another way, when your backpack hunt finally arrives, how long before your hunt do you stop the workouts, and do you just stop, or taper them down by doing say, a few 75% workouts in the days leading up to the hunt? Thanks.

I just stop about a 2 weeks before the hunt and go crazy piling all my crap together instead. Or, that's what I did in previous years when I actually worked out.

Part of the "strategy" there was to add some body fat, because I don't have any and can't add it on any kind of an exercise regimen. I have zero data to support or refute this "strategy".

No data?? I want some charts and graphs, man!!

The general rule on tapering for endurance sports performance varies with the individual but is basically cutting the training volume in half two or three weeks out and then again in half the week prior to the event, but upping the intensity as desired.

I personally don't take my backpacking trips all that seriously My only "sport specific" training for backpacking is to do one several hour hike a week with a medium weight(50 lb) pack. It doesn't make the pack out with meat comfortable, but it does make it do-able.

The rest of the week I run/bike and swim to maintain a cardio base. It's generally been enough for me.

I agree with CWH though, for me, the week before a trip is usually filled with packing gear and doing last minute chores.

Would think you could find something factual with looking into how the marathoners taper their runs down prior to a big race.

What I've read goes along with the above from Battue and Oldslowdog. IIRC, Ironman tri plans typically have a 2 week taper with easy s/b/r workouts just to keep the muscles loose. All low intensity.

I usually take it a little easy on legs the week leading up to the hunt. I will still do core and upper body, but I'll back off a little on lower body. 2-3 weeks prior to the hunt I'll lower the weight on my leg workouts and do reps in the 15-18 range. About 3-4 days before I hunt I will do some leg lifts at an even lower weight with higher reps. Mostly because I just feel better if I'm working out. I've always felt that if I am doing the work to get my body in shape, then doing some light lifting a few days prior to the hunt should be fine.

I'm thinking that carrying a pack in the mtns is different than running a marathon. I can carry a pack in the mtns but I couldn't run a marathon.

I too lay off the legs . My legs get enough work in hunting season. I still work upper body though.

I'm thinking the principal of starting out the hunt rested and at your peak is similar. Both being endurance events.

Could be wrong.

They could be similar but I don't know that they're the same. Humping a pack in the mtns is much higher intensity and depending on how steep, will be anaerobic at times so you're using strength, going anaerobic or close to it, and resting/recovering in between climbing "spurts" similar to resistance training. And then recovering overnight.

I know that with resistance training, if I lay off for 3 weeks I'll lose some strength. And if I lay off for 3-4 days, I don't lose anything and lots of times feel stronger when I get back in the gym.

That's why at the gym you work different muscle groups on different days. You can workout every dayand still give each muscle group the three days off it needs. Of course though you can do cardio every day.

It changes as summer progresses. As summer progresses there's hiking, scouting, checking trail cams, caching supplies and such. Then there's setting up tree stands for archery season which is a couple really hard days worth of work.

The only thing I don't do is lift heavy a day or two before archery season because tired major muscle groups mean less steady with the bow.

Tip time:

You will not be in as good a shape as your guide. Pace yourself.

You will not be able to keep up with him. Pace yourself.

You will not be able to carry what he can. Pace yourself.

You are going to bust azz even if you show up at the peak of training. Pace yourself.

Your legs, heart and lungs are going to scream. Pace yourself.

Pray for nice weather. Pace yourself.

Ask if you need a head net for stuff that bites and bites and bites. Pace yourself.

Shoot straight. Pace yourself.

Take pictures, but more important burn it all into your mind.

Go slow, pace yourself and have a great time.

Thank me when you get back.

PS: It is ok to shed a tear of joy after accomplishing a long time difficult goal. Your guide has seen it before and a good one will walk away and allow you to spend time with your Sheep.

Aim for 10X the number of pictures you think you should take. It will annoy other people. F--- those people. You put in the work, and you are paying the tab. Now your job is to have fun, and having fun is something to take seriously.

Have fun, and If you need anything while you are passing through Anchorage, give a shout.

Dang, this is disappointing. I was counting on my workout regimen to put me in top physical condition and leave him in the dust!!! The guy is only half my age, and he will only have the advantage of doing this every year for about the last ten, how hard can it be?

Seriously though, thanks Harry, I will try to keep all that stuff in mind as I'm sucking wind, gobbling advil, and trying to keep up. And thanks CWH.

Words to live by....

Well said!

Why taper off at all. The main thing is to avoid injuries right before you peak.
I'm running ramps (wind sprints) 3 days per week to burn the lungs and squatting 2 times per week. I figure if I do my last work out Tuesday with a ramp day, pack the truck Wednesday and drive West with a Starbucks in hand, while listening to Alive by Pearl Jam, I'll be recovered just perfectly for hump in on Friday morning.

Hmmmm. Your last day of resistance training would be Monday, and the pack in would be Friday?

That sounds like tapering off to me.

You will do fine.

Didn't mean to disappoint you.

Yes 1 extra day off instead of my Monday & Thursday squat routine if you want to call it tapering. :-)~

Typical hump in:


Hopefully the hump out:

Since you aren't in the Olympics, just stay in shape and go hunting. If your guide is half your age his working aerobic heart rate will be quite a bit higher than yours and if he is in any kind of shape you will make a good accounting of yourself but won't be in the same league. As stated, pace yourself and enjoy.

Stay in shape and go hunting, why didn't I think of that?

Thanks!

Considering this a little the last few days and have arrived at that your body will tell you if you pay attention. Legs tired, work on something else. Lost your enthusiasm, give it a short break. You haven't lost your desire if the habit is ingrained.

Read an article yesterday by an exercise therapist that said after two weeks off you start to lose gains, but your foundation is still there. Two months and you have pretty much lost all.

Have been making sure my daily K intake is meeting recommendations and muscle discomfort has improved significantly. Something to this proper balance of minerals.

Another study re diet and macular degeneration, that has pretty much proven for most people diet can have a significant impact on its occurring or its severity if it does.

Thanks Harry. But if I lose my enthusiasm I just hang out by the entrance to the yoga room for a while......

Yup. You can take two weeks off without losing gains. But once they start going, they'll go quick. Two months is probably right but I hope not to find out ever again. I hurt my shoulder bench pressing a few months back. Not seriously though, so I worked through by repping lighter weight. And I'm battling tennis elbow for the last six weeks. I do as much as my elbow allows me. I don't one rep max anymore. That's always when I get hurt. I use the bench press, deadlift, squat calculators online and compute my one rep max now.

Tell me about it. I had my rotator cuff stitched back together and my upper biceps tendon released (cut) six months ago. Two months of nada followed by months of not much. Back to 80-90% now. But pain-free.

Anything that works the legs and back (ie squats, deadlifts, etc) I take it a bit easy on the week I leave for a hunt. Not worried about injury as much as I don't want to have ride in a plane or a vehicle for that long with them being sore.

My problem is the post hunt/trip motivation. For me it's very hard to get back into the routine of being at the gym at 5am again.