I think I would like to try these in a 2 inch gun. Anyone shoot them or load them? The object of the game would be to get as many FPS as you could at no more than +P pressures!

for paper punching, or other purposes?

Since he wants maximum velocity, it's not likely for paper punching.

I use them with 3.2gr. of Unique, CCI 500 primers and get about 825 fps. with them. Much cleaner than regular lead WC's. I have had some "keyhole" recently....maybe loaded them to weak.....but they are a quality product.

Not really for paper punching in a titanium S&W..thanks for the replies!

Rainer bullets are plated, not jacketed. I wouldn't use a bullet without a crimping groove in an alloy frame.

good point, on to the next idea...

You crimp a wadcutter on the front edge of the bullet, no need for a crimping grove.