I have never tried loading with Power Pistol but am thinking about giving it a try (if I ever find any!). Applications would be .38 Spl., .357 Mag., .44 Spl. all with jacketed bullets. What is your experience with this powder?

Thanks, RS

Great powder in the 45ACP and 45 Super. Should work well for the cartridges that you listed

I use a lot of it in .480 Ruger and am very happy with the results.

Very versatile powder across a broad range of cartridges including all you mentioned.

Burn rate is similar to Unique but very clean.

I use it exclusively in 45 ACP & 9mm as long as I have it available.

MM

I've used it for .45ACP and .460 Rowland a bit, seems to work well. Had trouble finding any "recipes" for .44 mag or .45LC, then I read the container label, which says it was designed for semi-auto pistols.

Right. I use it for some of my go-to handgun loads. Particularly in 9mm and 40 S&W.

I love it in my 9mm and 45. Clean burning too. But, it's very hard to find any right now, good luck.

I have only shot it in my .44 Special. I haven't put any of them across the chrony yet but all loads have been incredibly accurate. I have loaded them with 200 and 240 LSWC's and Hornady 200 gr. XTP's.

I have some .357's loaded up but haven't shot them yet.

It is the most accurate powder I ever loaded in 9mm. For target loads in 45 Auto and 38 Special, I have had the best luck with faster powders. Never loaded 44 Special but I would think it would work well with a case that size and the desired pressure.

Very clean burning and good accuracy. It had a bit more flash and a sharper report than W231.

PP is one I've been wanting to try. Titegroup has been my recent favorite in 45acp, and my 44spl loves 231 but I'm about out and need a replacement. The local Sportsman's Whorehouse has a good supply of PP and Titegroup right now so I think I'll pick up some of each...

I use it in the 38, 357 with 135 GD's and the 44 Spl with 200 JHP's, plus the 380, 9mm, .40, 45 ACP and 45 Colt with 250 JHP's. The only problem with it is finding it anymore.

How many grains are you using to push the 240's?



Travis

My stuff is all packed away from the move still but I believe it is about 7.5 grs. I am loading 8 grs. with the 200 gr. XTP's. I haven't finished my load testing with these yet as the move to AZ kinda interrupted the process.

Thanks.


Travis

Believe it or not, I actually found a bottle of Power Pistol last week at one of the stores I frequent. First I have seen in a long while. Now to get some loads together.

RS

I use PP in most of my 44 Special loads and like it a lot. My "beefed up" loads with 240 grain WFN hardcasts are doing about 1050 fps. I also load 200 grain XTPs up to 1130 fps -- amazing 25 yard accuracy.

How many grains are you running with your WFN's?

I got a keg of this schit and things are gonna get straight UBER after deer season.



Travis

Alliant shows 7.6 gr as max with a 240 jacketed bullet..........

How the hell did you get a keg of it.......that's kinda like gold right now. I probably have 4-5 pounds & consider myself lucky.

MM

Travis,

Speer's #14 manual lists 8.0gr Pwr Pistol w/250gr Keith (the RCBS version) as a standard pressure load developing 954fps from a 5 1/2" Cimaron SAA.

Brian Pearce's .44 spcl article classified the 8.0gr Pwr Pistol load at 15,500 psi or less and in "Category One" (he had load tables for Three categories -- 15,500, 22,000 and 25,000 psi. The 250gr 429421 (Lyman Keith) and the 255gr 429244 (Thomson GC) chroned 980fps & 983 fps respectively from a 4 1/4" FA 97 (couldn't find test temp). The article in Handloader Mag, Aug 2005, No. 236 -- it's floating around the net somewhere.

I chronoed the 8.0gr/250 Keith (Lyman version from Western Bullet) load at 963 fps from my 5 1/2" FA97 (5 paces from muzzle and 55 deg F).

On the same day, with the same load/gun, Berry's plated 240gr went 905fps.

Paul

I found 8lbs of it. Then I bought it.

Duh.



Travis

Awesome info.

Thanks.



Travis

Lucky Prick.

GFY

MM

Ever try PP in a 500 JRH or heavy 44 mag or heavy 45 Colt loads?

I am very lucky, most days.

And I am in fact a prick.



Travis

I would be interested to know if anybody is using PP for medium power 44 magnum loads. Something in the 950 to 1000 fps range with a 250 gr. Keith bullet in magnum brass. I'm getting low on Universal and Unique........

9.0 w/240 or 250 grain WFN hardcasts (or 240 grain Nosler JHPs}.

In the 250 grainers, 2400 starts to pull away from PP in velocity --

I know you know this-- but for others -- THIS IS A RUGER BLACKHAWK LOAD. Also, Brian Pierce in Handloader Mag is where I got the load info. Issue #260 -- July 2009.

Same for me. I get 1385 fps with 200 gr lead in my 45 Super Sig 1911 5". Very accurate powder.

I use Power Pistol in 9mm and 38 Special with cast and jacketed bullets. I am happy with everything about it especially the way it meters. It has basically replaced Unique for me.

Ernie

I like Power Pistol in rimless cases [with a powerful extractor]:
25acp
32acp
380
9x19mm Luger
9x23 Win
7.62x25mm Tokarev
30 Mauser
40 s&w
10mm
45acp

I use Power Pistol in 38S&W, but only in Colts [break tops and Smiths get Bullseye].

The other rimmed cases [with finger tip extraction] get LIL'GUN or H110:
32 S&W Long
38 special
357 mag
44 mag
45 Colt
45 auto rim

38 special target loads get Bullseye

Just returned from shooting some Power Pistol loads and am very pleased.

.44 Special -- 9.5 grs. with a 180 gr. XTP @ 950 fps (3" barrel)
.357 Mag -- 6.5 grs. with a 150 gr LSWC @ 1050 fps (4" barrel)

are you going to shoot at that old gravel area going towards I17?

Nope...we head up Mingus Rd. past the Cottonwood airport. Haven't been to the gravel place in years.

I tried it in my S & W 586 revolver shooting 38 special handloads. Never could get the loads to be as accurate as when loading the 38 special with Bullseye, Titegroup or 231. I ended up using it in my 9mm handloads with so-so accuracy results. When it is gone I'm not going to buy it anymore.

This is my favorite for 9mm. It's accurate, can match factory velocity, and is very clean.

My big surprise came when I used it in .45 Colt with a 250 gr XTP. Accurate and clean burning.

When I see a can of Power Pistol, I buy it.

I have used it, and I like it just fine. If I didnt have 40+ lbs of 231, thats probably what I would buy.

Preliminary testing indicates full UBER-ness.




Dave

Richdeerhunter,

How many grains of Power Pistol with the 250gr. XTP in the .45 Colt?

Thanks, RS

Hornady manual recommends PP as most accurate powder with 250 gr XTP. I used 8.0 gr and it was great. Hornady shows a max load of 8.7 gr. Note that 8 gr does not take up much space in the .45 case, and a double charge could get ugly.

.44 Specials out of the 396 = 7.5gr's, CCI primer, and the 200gr. XTP. UBER.

.44 Specials out of the Ruger = 8.5gr's, CCI primer, and the 260gr. Rim Rock. UBER-DUBER!




Travis

Travis,
Have you tried any PP in 44 mag brass out of your M29? I'm thinking about 9.5 grains behind a 250 gr. Keith. I getting low on Unique and Universal.

Not yet. But 9.0-9.5 would probably be a good place to start.

Pearce did an article in the new Handloader on reloading for the model 69 and he topped out at 10.0gr's.



Travis

Thanks, I'll check that article out.

I use 8.8 grains Power Pistol behind a 260 grain LBT original Keith for 1000fps in the 4" barrel of my 629 Mountain Revolver. Yesterday I shot a 3 inch (ten ring) group at 50 yards. It is a deer killer.

Thanks KWII. That's about the velocity I'm looking for. I don't load them to the gills anymore.

Picked up some about three months ago.

38 special 4.6 gr, 158 gr swc, 747 fps, 4 inch barrel

357 mag 6.6 gr, 158 gr swc, 1083 fps 6 inch barrel