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Posted By: NH K9 Sig.... - 11/21/14
Nice to have Sig so close......
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Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/21/14
I was a firm believer in the .357 Sig before, but every time I get the chance to shoot into/from vehicles it reaffirms that trust.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Sig.... - 11/21/14
Is that what you carry?
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/21/14
Yes. I (figuratively) stomped my feet and (literally) bitched when I was advised we were transitioning from the .45. Then I spent some time with it.....

I love my .45s, but prefer my 229 for duty use due to the advantages the .357 offers.

George
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: Sig.... - 11/21/14
Does that mannequin have boobs?
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/21/14
Laffin'......just massive pecs. Pretty sure it was a dude. I know he wasn't happy by the end of the exercise.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Sig.... - 11/21/14
I bought a Sig in .357 Sig back in the 1990s, but sold it a couple years later. While I had it, I carried it quite a bit. It was the single stack model. Can't recall the model number.

Are there any down sides to the .357 Sig? E.g., excess blast/flash?
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
There's no free lunch......

More recoil than the 9mm/.40, obviously. I've shot the Sig side-by-side with my 1911 (230 gr. Rangers IIRC), a .40 with generic target loads, and my 9mm (Black Talons) on the indoor range with the lights off. Maybe I'm the exception, but my eyes can't tell the difference.

George
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Originally Posted by NH K9
There's no free lunch......

More recoil than the 9mm/.40, obviously. I've shot the Sig side-by-side with my 1911 (230 gr. Rangers IIRC), a .40 with generic target loads, and my 9mm (Black Talons) on the indoor range with the lights off. Maybe I'm the exception, but my eyes can't tell the difference.

George
Interesting. Could be a win win.
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Originally Posted by NH K9
Laffin'......just massive pecs. Pretty sure it was a dude.


OK. But since I've stared at them this long already I'm gonna stick with the theory that it's a chick, just cuz.
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
And it looks like a good day. Did you do any shooting out of the car?
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Into, at and from. It was an eye-opener for some in regards to accessing equipment, shooting positions and what bullets actually so when they hit a windshield, door, etc.

The passenger seat was empty, no MDT, etc. so unassing the opposite side wasn't entirely realistic. They opened up the armory at the end of the day and that red car took a beating..22 up through .338 lapua.

I don't think I stopped grinning all day.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Did you guys try some bonded .223 or .308 through the auto glass?
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Sadly, no!

By the time the rifles came out there wasn't a window left to shoot.

Give me some time, I have a newly discovered pit and I believe the target selection is going to be very liberal. Just have to talk to the scrap yard....
Posted By: ingwe Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
What little we have done, the bonded bullets showed a definite edge and kept a straight flight path...the old 168 Gr Sierra BTHP was dismal....


The new nosher 60 grain bonded in the .223 and a Swift A-Frame in the .308...
Posted By: gitem_12 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
George, I haven't noticed any more muzzle flash ith the 357 Sig over the 45

My scores went up on average when we switched, but That may be due to the smaller grip on the G-31 over the G21.

I'm still getting used to the P226, but my first qual score was 288/300

I'm 295 and up with the Glock.

Over all i'm pretty happy with the Sig
Posted By: ldholton Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Originally Posted by NH K9
There's no free lunch......

More recoil than the 9mm/.40, obviously. I've shot the Sig side-by-side with my 1911 (230 gr. Rangers IIRC), a .40 with generic target loads, and my 9mm (Black Talons) on the indoor range with the lights off. Maybe I'm the exception, but my eyes can't tell the difference.

George
I'd beg to differ IMO the sig "kicks" less than a .40 atleast with 165-180 compard to 120-124
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
I'm certainly not going to tell someone else that their perception is wrong.....you feel what you feel. I can only base my opinion on my 229, shooting with both the .357 and .40 barrels. The .357 seems "snappier" (how's that for technical/scientific!) than the .40.

Bottom line, for me at least, is that neither is harsh so it's not an issue on the range/street.

George
Posted By: 4ager Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Originally Posted by NH K9
I'm certainly not going to tell someone else that their perception is wrong.....

George


Whoa... what a difference a white shirt makes.

wink
Posted By: NH K9 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
I'm going to channel 'flave...._GFY. grin

No white shirt in my closet......My shirts and ties might, possibly, be seeing more action.
Posted By: tex_n_cal Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
That bottleneck case might feed more reliably, too.
Posted By: gitem_12 Re: Sig.... - 11/22/14
Originally Posted by NH K9
I'm going to channel 'flave...._GFY. grin

No white shirt in my closet......My shirts and ties might, possibly, be seeing more action.



Taking a job in Internal Affairs? whistle
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: Sig.... - 11/23/14
Originally Posted by tex_n_cal
That bottleneck case might feed more reliably, too.
I've heard this as well. Makes sense.
Posted By: Ngrumba Re: Sig.... - 11/26/14
Do you think if Darren Wilsons P229 was a 357 Sig instead of a 40SW it would have taken less than 8 rounds? Wouldn't you rather have a 220 45ACP?
Posted By: derby_dude Re: Sig.... - 11/26/14
HOLY CRAP BATMAN!!!! shocked

I'm glad you said it was a training exercise.
Posted By: Mac84 Re: Sig.... - 11/27/14
Damn George, what a hoot. Not a bad day at work.
Posted By: idahoguy101 Re: Sig.... - 11/27/14
Dammit! Now I'm thinking of getting a 357 SIG barrel for my 40 cal Browning!
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