If you're not wrecking, you're not riding..

Posted By: Rancho_Loco If you're not wrecking, you're not riding.. - 05/26/15

I told you filling them to the top with Blue Dot would be too warm.

Travis

Loaded that bitch to Safariman levels I see......

How's the trigger finger?

Originally Posted by Cheyenne

How's the trigger finger?

what he said.

Seriously, I hope everyone is OK.

Originally Posted by Cheyenne

Seriously, I hope everyone is OK.

This.......feel like a dick for not asking before joking.

Ouch. Tell us more.

Little bit of meat gone, some black and blue, but I've done worse.

Well what happened?

Ouch! glad you're not hurt too bad.

Is that a 45 ACP?

Just a tip - if you're working up loads and pushing the limits, remove the magazine before shooting. A case blowing out into the empty mag well still stings, but is generally harmless, because it can vent freely.

G36.. .45 ACP, top end reload, but not ridiculous.. Have shot that recipe many times.

Got it torn down, and no cracks that I can see in the frame, but I guess I should send it in.

I only use military 45 brass, but my reloads are calc'd right at 21K psi. I have never gotten a bulge in the brass.

Probably a good idea to get some 45 Super brass, or at least something a little heavier like milsurp, or Starline.

Send it in. They'll take care of it.

Likely a weak spot in the brass.

Last round in the magazine, or next to last?

Had that case been fired multiple times in glocks?

Originally Posted by 4ager

Send it in. They'll take care of it.

Likely a weak spot in the brass.

Last round in the magazine, or next to last?

first in line, primer looks fine. Win brasss. 230 GD over 7.2 grs PP.

First one up eliminates bullet slippage back into the case. Weak spot in the brass over the unsupported area of the chamber. That's my guess. Likely a hairline crack in the brass. Ouch.

Plastic made over squirt guns... Surprise, surprise

If'n it aint steel, It aint real.

Jus say'n.

Hope your OK Rancho.

W. Bill

Originally Posted by Remington6MM

Plastic made over squirt guns... Surprise, surprise

If'n it aint steel, It aint real.

Jus say'n.

Hope your OK Rancho.

W. Bill

Just sayin' you're FOS. The "plastic" parts have nothing to do with an unsupported chamber or brass failure. Have a catastrophic brass failure like that in a 1911 or BHP and see what the results are. They'll be a lot more destructive to the pistol and the shooter than that one was.

case took a big chit and I'm betting a beer it feeds and shoots right now, fugged up trigger and mag release included.

But I'm going to send it in anyway, and see what it costs. I bet another beer it's under $100.

I'm not getting rid of the squirt guns, no yet.

Sucker bet on both parts. BT/DT with a G20.

Originally Posted by Remington6MM

Plastic made over squirt guns... Surprise, surprise

If'n it aint steel, It aint real.

Jus say'n.

Hope your OK Rancho.

W. Bill

Same results with a steel gun.

Travis

I got nothing against Glocks, personally I'd love to have a 19. But I would shoot nothing but factory new ammo in a Glock; that's just me.

Originally Posted by GunGeek

I got nothing against Glocks, personally I'd love to have a 19. But I would shoot nothing but factory new ammo in a Glock; that's just me.

Ditto.

Sorry guys but with a 1911, even an aluminum one, when a case blows all you usually get is a set of cracked grips...and the last time it happened to me the grips didn't even go.

In 35 years of shooting 1911s in .38 Super I've had about 6 blowouts. Clean gun, clean magazine and keep shooting...

Glad you are all right Rancho...

Bob

Not sure what you mean.

The frame of his gun looks fine.

Travis

Code

Cartridge          : .45 Auto (ACP) (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .451, 230, Speer HP GD 4483
Useable Case Capaci: 14.375 grain H2O = 0.933 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.275 inch = 32.39 mm
Barrel Length      : 4.0 inch = 101.6 mm
Powder             : Alliant POWER PISTOL

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 2.0% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-20.0   55     5.76    667     227    9923   2811     62.8    0.778
-18.0   56     5.90    682     237   10376   2925     63.8    0.763
-16.0   58     6.05    697     248   10841   3041     64.8    0.748
-14.0   59     6.19    712     259   11320   3158     65.9    0.733
-12.0   60     6.34    727     270   11817   3276     66.9    0.719
-10.0   62     6.48    742     281   12332   3396     67.9    0.705
-08.0   63     6.62    757     293   12866   3517     68.8    0.692
-06.0   64     6.77    772     305   13418   3638     69.8    0.679
-04.0   66     6.91    788     317   13990   3761     70.8    0.666
-02.0   67     7.06    803     329   14581   3885     71.7    0.654
+00.0   69     7.20    818     342   15192   4009     72.7    0.642
+02.0   70     7.34    833     355   15823   4134     73.6    0.631
+04.0   71     7.49    849     368   16476   4260     74.5    0.619
+06.0   73     7.63    864     381   17149   4386     75.4    0.608
+08.0   74     7.78    879     395   17845   4513     76.3    0.598
+10.0   75     7.92    894     408   18563   4640     77.1    0.587  ! Near Maximum !

Glad you're OK. Things could have been worse and I'm happy for you they're not!

On the lighter side, I bet Shrapnel is jealous....

Not if I'm blowing up Glocks.. he's going to be tickled.

Glad you are ok. Must have been quite a surprise!!!

Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco

first in line, primer looks fine. Win brasss. 230 GD over 7.2 grs PP.

That's on the warm side & is a near max load for PP, but probably not a load issue, per se'; probably just a weak case head & bad luck.

I use 6.8 of PP with that bullet.

Glad you still have all your digits.

MM

Originally Posted by deflave

Not sure what you mean.

The frame of his gun looks fine.

Travis

...my post was more directed to 4ager's comments about the 1911. That said, look at the gun...mag is blown, there is no more magazine catch and the trigger is in pieces. Anytime there is that much damage to a Glock from a kaboom there is a good chance that the frame has been compromised.

Bob

RJM,

Had the exact same thing happen with a G20 10mm ka-boom. No frame damage whatsoever, as verified by GlockUSA. Repair was under $100, and that included them replacing all the springs.

Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco

Little bit of meat gone, some black and blue, but I've done worse.

I am glad it is not worse.

Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco

Little bit of meat gone, some black and blue, but I've done worse.

Pic?

Huntsman showed us his.

nothing worth a pic..

Originally Posted by 4ager

Originally Posted by Remington6MM

Plastic made over squirt guns... Surprise, surprise

If'n it aint steel, It aint real.

Jus say'n.

Hope your OK Rancho.

W. Bill

Just sayin' you're FOS. The "plastic" parts have nothing to do with an unsupported chamber or brass failure. Have a catastrophic brass failure like that in a 1911 or BHP and see what the results are. They'll be a lot more destructive to the pistol and the shooter than that one was.

Sean,
I beg to differ. I double charged An aluminum frame 1911, 45acp and blew the case, except for cracked grips the gun and magazine were fine.
I was amazed, as I have seen the Glock kaboom pic's and in my book the 1911 is much stouter, even the aluminum frame version.
That being being said I was glad to be wearing leather gloves at the time.

Glad you're OK, Rancho. That's something I hope I never experience.

Any chance you double charged the case? I don't load power pistol so it may not be possible to get a double charge in a case.

Single stage or progressive? Powder cop die?

I worry about doing this since my boys shoot my reloads.

Dink

Pfffft, if you want to impress the chicks, blow up a Redhawk....

Glad you don't have to do the stranger on yourself as a result of it.

Originally Posted by Rancho_Loco

Not if I'm blowing up Glocks.. he's going to be tickled.

You will do anything to get out of the Invitational to keep from getting shown up by a bunch of blued guns with wood stocks...

Glad Rancho is not hurt badly, and hope he heals completely.

But bullet setback can occur the first time it feeds into the chamber. If the expander plug is bigger than about .447", the bullets may not be tight enough in the case.

And yes, I have done adventurous loads, too...

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Fedex dropped it off today..

They pulled my 3.5 lb. LW connector and NY1 spring, as expected, but sent them with..

Connector 5.5 lbs. NC
Extractor NC
Firing Pin NC
Mag Catch NC
Recoil Spring NC
Slide Stop NC
Trigger Spring NC
Trigger Bar NC

Yes, I told them I blew it up on a reload.

Didn't get a new mag. Maybe I should have sent that in, too.. (BFG)

Glad your ok.. Just getting caught up on the news..