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Posted By: rondrews LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
I really like my Ruger LC9. What I don't like about it is the amount of pressure you need to cock it. I think I am going to look into another 9MM that you don't have to be a Gorilla to pull the slide back. I realize that an automatic needs a good return spring to function, but I think the LC9 has a little overkill. Any suggestions on an alternative CC Automatic?
Posted By: 43Shooter Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
I've owned and shot the LCP and LC9. Agreed on the slide on both. I ended up with a Glock 19. It's bigger than the LC9 but IMO a lot more enjoyable to shoot than the smaller 9mms and still works as a CCW.
Posted By: THOMASMAGNUM Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
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Posted By: TC1 Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
Originally Posted by rondrews
I really like my Ruger LC9. What I don't like about it is the amount of pressure you need to cock it. I think I am going to look into another 9MM that you don't have to be a Gorilla to pull the slide back. I realize that an automatic needs a good return spring to function, but I think the LC9 has a little overkill. Any suggestions on an alternative CC Automatic?


If you are looking to stay with the same size pistol and like the 9mm give the Sig P938 a look. The slide is VERY easy to manipulate. The G19 is another good choice but bigger.

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Walther CCP is a delayed blowback(piston) and has a little lighter main spring.

Mike
Posted By: rondrews Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
hanks Mike. How about the Walther CCP? I hear that also has the blowback vent and as a result it is also easier to work.
Posted By: rondrews Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
Thanks. I'll give the Glock a look.
Posted By: rondrews Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
My dealer is touting the Remington R-51 which is a newer model and is supposed to be easy as any on the market to operate the slide. I also hear there was a recall on them last year. I hate to buy a gun without trying the action and no- one has any up here in Wisconsin.
Posted By: Son_of_the_Gael Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
After the R51 fiasco, I wouldn't buy one until they've been out for a couple of years and we knew they would work..
Posted By: P_Weed Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
I don't think any Remington R51's have been available for a couple years.
No one has any on-line - "Out of stock" or "Not available".
Even Remington's web sight isn't listing them!

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Posted By: MOGC Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
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Originally Posted by rondrews
hanks Mike. How about the Walther CCP? I hear that also has the blowback vent and as a result it is also easier to work.



Red Face!

That's the one I meant! That's what I get for going from old memory. I looked at one in Ft. Walton last week seemed like a really nice gun.

Will edit my post above if it will let me. Sorry.

Mike
Posted By: ldholton Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
LC9s , it's what the orginal should have been
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/22/16
Lc9s pro

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My wife and daughter can rack the slide w/o much difficulty
Posted By: TC1 Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
Originally Posted by ldholton
LC9s , it's what the orginal should have been


Agreed, I really like mine. That said the slide is still a little heavy on the LC9s Pro. I can rack it without any trouble but my Sig P938 will pull back with about half the force needed for the Ruger.
Posted By: jimmyp Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
One of my buds has the LC9s he really likes it
Posted By: Bristoe Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
Posted By: FreeMe Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
Originally Posted by Bristoe


As much as I like the. Kahr pistols, I wouldn't say that their slides cycle easy by hand. Although I haven't tried the T series, the smaller ones are stiffer than the K-T PF9. I haven't handled the LC9 either, so that's the best comparison I can make.

Easy cycling can be had with Glocks, and other larger pistols such as the HiPower or 1911.
Posted By: ar15a292f Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
I recommend the Beretta Nano.
Posted By: Rock Chuck Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
I haven't shot either but Ruger's newer LC9S is a striker version of the LC9. It's supposed to be easier to shoot with a lighter trigger pull.
Posted By: TC1 Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
It is but still has a heavy duty slide spring.
Posted By: The_Real_Hawkeye Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/23/16
Originally Posted by rondrews
Thanks. I'll give the Glock a look.
I've got both the 19 and 17, and only carry the 17. Zero noticeable difference in comfort in carry, and nearly that little difference in concealability, but two more rounds and longer sight radius. I also shoot the 17 noticeably better.
Posted By: Bristoe Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As much as I like the. Kahr pistols, I wouldn't say that their slides cycle easy by hand. Although I haven't tried the T series, the smaller ones are stiffer than the K-T PF9. I haven't handled the LC9 either, so that's the best comparison I can make.

Easy cycling can be had with Glocks, and other larger pistols such as the HiPower or 1911.


I can't say that I've ever done a comparison, but I just got my Kahr out and racked the slide.

I can't imagine anyone having any trouble with it. I don't know what the Ruger is like.

In my opinion, DAO pistols are meant to be carried with one in the chamber ready to go, anyway. So for me, racking the slide isn't going to be an issue during a self defense situation.
Posted By: deflave Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/24/16
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Posted By: FreeMe Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As much as I like the. Kahr pistols, I wouldn't say that their slides cycle easy by hand. Although I haven't tried the T series, the smaller ones are stiffer than the K-T PF9. I haven't handled the LC9 either, so that's the best comparison I can make.

Easy cycling can be had with Glocks, and other larger pistols such as the HiPower or 1911.


I can't say that I've ever done a comparison, but I just got my Kahr out and racked the slide.

I can't imagine anyone having any trouble with it. I don't know what the Ruger is like.

In my opinion, DAO pistols are meant to be carried with one in the chamber ready to go, anyway. So for me, racking the slide isn't going to be an issue during a self defense situation.


I agree that one should be in the chamber. I don't think the average adult male should have any problem cycling the slide on a Kahr, but holding it back for disassembly can be a challenge if you don't have their little trick tool.

Deflave has the answer.
Posted By: Lockhart Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/24/16
I have handled one and agree with earlier posters. Lighter, shorter trigger pull than the LC9. Slide takes a little effort and on the one I shot the slide had to be pulled back slightly to release the latch.
Posted By: rondrews Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/30/16
I checked around one day and tried a lot of Slides. The easiest was a Kahr, but a bit above my price range. I found a Very reasonable Hi-Point 9MM Really a nice weapon, but a bit ugly. So I Bought one. Then I found a Taurus G2 9MM that was also easier than my Ruger. So I bought one of those for my wife. But when she tried to load the Mag's she could only get two in. So I tried it and I could only get three in. These mags are impossible. They are both going back to Taurus today. Taurus told me to load them fully and let them stand for a week or so. Funny! How in the hell can you do that if you can only get three in?
Posted By: Otis Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/30/16
The LC9s is far better than the original LC9, trigger & slide spring they got it right and shoots great!
Posted By: RDW Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/30/16
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Posted By: local_dirt Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/30/16
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As much as I like the. Kahr pistols, I wouldn't say that their slides cycle easy by hand. Although I haven't tried the T series, the smaller ones are stiffer than the K-T PF9. I haven't handled the LC9 either, so that's the best comparison I can make.

Easy cycling can be had with Glocks, and other larger pistols such as the HiPower or 1911.


I can't say that I've ever done a comparison, but I just got my Kahr out and racked the slide.

I can't imagine anyone having any trouble with it. I don't know what the Ruger is like.

In my opinion, DAO pistols are meant to be carried with one in the chamber ready to go, anyway. So for me, racking the slide isn't going to be an issue during a self defense situation.


I agree that one should be in the chamber. I don't think the average adult male should have any problem cycling the slide on a Kahr, but holding it back for disassembly can be a challenge if you don't have their little trick tool.

Deflave has the answer.


Not sure I get that part, Freeme. Taking my 2 Kahrs apart are right up there with the easiest to disassemble guns I own. I use the right hand thumb behind the grip, palm over the slide, line up the notch, push the pin out from the back side method. Almost a 1-hand operation, except I use my left hand to slightly assist holding the slide back and pop the slide stop out with the second index finger on my left hand. Easy peezy.
Posted By: FreeMe Re: LC9 Alternative. - 04/30/16
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As much as I like the. Kahr pistols, I wouldn't say that their slides cycle easy by hand. Although I haven't tried the T series, the smaller ones are stiffer than the K-T PF9. I haven't handled the LC9 either, so that's the best comparison I can make.

Easy cycling can be had with Glocks, and other larger pistols such as the HiPower or 1911.


I can't say that I've ever done a comparison, but I just got my Kahr out and racked the slide.

I can't imagine anyone having any trouble with it. I don't know what the Ruger is like.

In my opinion, DAO pistols are meant to be carried with one in the chamber ready to go, anyway. So for me, racking the slide isn't going to be an issue during a self defense situation.


I agree that one should be in the chamber. I don't think the average adult male should have any problem cycling the slide on a Kahr, but holding it back for disassembly can be a challenge if you don't have their little trick tool.

Deflave has the answer.


Not sure I get that part, Freeme. Taking my 2 Kahrs apart are right up there with the easiest to disassemble guns I own. I use the right hand thumb behind the grip, palm over the slide, line up the notch, push the pin out from the back side method. Almost a 1-hand operation, except I use my left hand to slightly assist holding the slide back and pop the slide stop out with the second index finger on my left hand. Easy peezy.


You sure your recoil spring is okay? I've had several different autos that are/were easier to take down. Maybe my old K9 is different?
Posted By: TXRam Re: LC9 Alternative. - 05/06/16
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by local_dirt
Originally Posted by FreeMe
Originally Posted by Bristoe
Originally Posted by FreeMe


As much as I like the. Kahr pistols, I wouldn't say that their slides cycle easy by hand. Although I haven't tried the T series, the smaller ones are stiffer than the K-T PF9. I haven't handled the LC9 either, so that's the best comparison I can make.

Easy cycling can be had with Glocks, and other larger pistols such as the HiPower or 1911.


I can't say that I've ever done a comparison, but I just got my Kahr out and racked the slide.

I can't imagine anyone having any trouble with it. I don't know what the Ruger is like.

In my opinion, DAO pistols are meant to be carried with one in the chamber ready to go, anyway. So for me, racking the slide isn't going to be an issue during a self defense situation.


I agree that one should be in the chamber. I don't think the average adult male should have any problem cycling the slide on a Kahr, but holding it back for disassembly can be a challenge if you don't have their little trick tool.

Deflave has the answer.


Not sure I get that part, Freeme. Taking my 2 Kahrs apart are right up there with the easiest to disassemble guns I own. I use the right hand thumb behind the grip, palm over the slide, line up the notch, push the pin out from the back side method. Almost a 1-hand operation, except I use my left hand to slightly assist holding the slide back and pop the slide stop out with the second index finger on my left hand. Easy peezy.


You sure your recoil spring is okay? I've had several different autos that are/were easier to take down. Maybe my old K9 is different?


I have 2 Kahrs and do just like local_dirt - pistol upside down, thumb behind grip and holding slide back with my hand/fingers, no issues at all. Just like Uncle Sam taught me 25yrs ago...
Posted By: jimmyp Re: LC9 Alternative. - 05/07/16
PM9 is very good pistol.
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