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Posted By: Triggernosis YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
Why do folks on YouTube that are reviewing a gun always want to show their "audience" (the viewer) that the gun is unloaded when they begin handling it? Are they afraid they're gonna shoot someone over a fiber-optic data line or something? I mean, I don't give a foshizzle if they blow their own brains out while reviewing a gun - no need to show me that it's unloaded.
Posted By: Sakoluvr Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
I think it's because they would get a million negative comments from basement dwellers saying that you should check first before handling the gun. Folks have to say something just to say something and look knowledgeable.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
I think it's because they would get a million negative comments from basement dwellers saying that you should check first before handling the gun. Folks have to say something just to say something and look knowledgeable.


Yeah, I guess you're right.
What is it about guns that brings out the know-it-all in 90% of the male population anyway?
Posted By: Steelhead Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
And 90% of the gun guys don't know a thing about most things guns.
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Why do folks on YouTube that are reviewing a gun always want to show their "audience" (the viewer) that the gun is unloaded when they begin handling it? Are they afraid they're gonna shoot someone over a fiber-optic data line or something? I mean, I don't give a foshizzle if they blow their own brains out while reviewing a gun - no need to show me that it's unloaded.

The reason is that in the early days of YouTube, the posters wasted a lot of time and energy fighting off all the critics who would excoriate them for poor gun handling, and setting bad examples. So most developed the habit of doing this just to avoid having to waste the energy and time of dealing with this.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Why do folks on YouTube that are reviewing a gun always want to show their "audience" (the viewer) that the gun is unloaded when they begin handling it? Are they afraid they're gonna shoot someone over a fiber-optic data line or something? I mean, I don't give a foshizzle if they blow their own brains out while reviewing a gun - no need to show me that it's unloaded.

The reason is that in the early days of YouTube, the posters wasted a lot of time and energy fighting off all the critics who would excoriate them for poor gun handling, and setting bad examples. So most developed the habit of doing this just to avoid having to waste the energy and time of dealing with this.

Gotcha. The internet, while so useful, is a fawked up place sometimes.
Posted By: TBREW401 Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
They want to show that they are safe gun handlers, and that guns are not inherently evil.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/18/17
Originally Posted by TBREW401
..., and that guns are not inherently evil.

I sure hope Pelosi knows that.
Posted By: ldholton Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
Originally Posted by Steelhead
And 90% of the gun guys don't know a thing about most things guns.


this . most of the U tube reviewers are dipshits . to me best one out there is hickcock 45
Posted By: saleen322 Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
It is also a matter of expectations. While one may learn some things watching a youtube video, I have yet to see one that I consider a real review that would shape my decision on a gun purchase. Many are entertaining and some are funny to watch and that is sometimes enough to promote popularity.
Posted By: Jim in Idaho Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
Originally Posted by saleen322
It is also a matter of expectations. While one may learn some things watching a youtube video, I have yet to see one that I consider a real review that would shape my decision on a gun purchase. Many are entertaining and some are funny to watch and that is sometimes enough to promote popularity.

My thoughts as well. I watch some of them hoping for some insight into a firearm's performance or quality of build or its good and bad points along with some objective information - weight, group sizes with various ammo, etc., but most of them are "hey, watch me shoot my new gun in my back yard" videos. Some are decent and have useful tidbits here and there but you have to watch 10 or 12 of them to even start to get a complete picture of the firearm. I like Hitchcock45 and Jeff Quinn as friendly and personable presenters but even Hitchcock does little more than plinking without providing much insight into the firearms and I suspect Jeff never met a free loaner he didn't like. I will say that Gunblast's written reviews on line do provide the more detailed information I'm looking for.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
[quote=saleen322] I suspect Jeff never met a free loaner he didn't like.

LOL. Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard him really bad-mouth much of anything. I do often find his reviews enlightening, however.
Interesting to note that neither Hickock or Jeff never spend time showing you the gun they are talking about is unloaded.
Posted By: tarheelpwr Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
I agree, for most of US, it is pointless. But, you have to consider how many novice gun owners/handlers/wannabes watch those videos. I think it's still a good practice. I know I would teach my daughters to ALWAYS check that first. No difference in them teaching novice watchers the same.

It's important to remember a lot of younger folks don't have a mentor that can show them a lot of the things we take for granted now days.
Posted By: deflave Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
They're a lot like magazine articles.

If it's specific i.e. trigger work on a Ruger Blackhawk, Glock 17, etc. then they are worthwhile.

If it's a "watch my new M&P go bang" it's about as boring as a Stan Trzoniec piece.




Clark
Posted By: S99VG Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
If you don't like it don't watch. There some entertaining guys on YouTube and there are more than our fair share of boobs. I don't watch the latter but I do want to know why the idiots feel so compelled to telegraph their mental deficiencies to the entire world. Whats the old saying, "its better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt."
Posted By: deflave Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
How do you know if you don't like it if you don't watch?
Posted By: FreeMe Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
[quote=saleen322] I suspect Jeff never met a free loaner he didn't like.

LOL. Yeah, I don't think I've ever heard him really bad-mouth much of anything. I do often find his reviews enlightening, however.
Interesting to note that neither Hickock or Jeff never spend time showing you the gun they are talking about is unloaded.


Are you kidding me? Hickock is constantly jacking his slide all the time. Oh yeah, it's unloaded alright.

I agree with your OP. Why would anyone need to purposely show the gun is unloaded in a gun test video - unless they are actually handing it to someone or about to do some work on it? Hickock often has several guns on the table. Some nit-pickers apparently want to watch him show each gun is unloaded - how often? Every time he picks one up? Every time he goes near the table? Is that how we train now? What happened to "every gun is always loaded"?

All I watch these guys for is to see if the gun functions, and maybe glean a little detail about the gun itself. I do not need or want the "beginner's guide" in every gun related video. There are gun safety videos on the 'net. Easy for any noob to find. Seeing that in every video would get old for them too. Guess if I was doing gun videos, I would be obligated to start each one with "this is not a gun safety video".

I see the same thing all the time regarding videos and photos of canoeing. Invariably, someone just has to scream - "No PFD!" "OMG", someone will want to do the same!" God save us from the safety Nazis.
Posted By: RoninPhx Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/19/17
i find some of them quite interesting.
Like the guy showing how to load a 71/84 mauser, and then showing it while shooting it.
or the guy that burnt up a ak74 full auto.
Or the guy from julia's auction house firing a lot of rather rare old weapons.
off topic, but what i really like on youtube are those battlefield pickup clips, where people are recovering weapons, personal stuff, and dead people from the old battlefields. There is one on there recovering mummies from the italian alps and finland. The bodies were frozen so the didn't decompose. It's quite something to see the effort made to recover and place in proper cemetaries.
As to the weapons, some of the spent shell casings found indicate even in WWII in some areas people were using black powder metallic guns, surprised at how well spread lewis guns were, and seeing a number of those little baby brownings in .25auto being dug out of the mud.
Posted By: S99VG Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/20/17
Originally Posted by deflave
How do you know if you don't like it if you don't watch?


That's an easy one to figure out.
Posted By: Jim in Idaho Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/20/17
I do the same with books. The cover tells you all you need to know about what's inside.
Posted By: S99VG Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/20/17
I just watch these things for entertainment. If it doesn't do that then I turn the damn TV or computer off as there's always something else to go do.
Posted By: CrimsonTide Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/20/17
Originally Posted by deflave
it's about as boring as a Stan Trzoniec piece.
Clark

I gotta say, few can make me want to watch grass grow, or paint dry, like Ol' Stan.
Posted By: johnw Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/20/17
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by Steelhead
And 90% of the gun guys don't know a thing about most things guns.


this . most of the U tube reviewers are dipshits . to me best one out there is hickcock 45


Hickock 45 prattles on too much for me. Good gun videos are few and far between.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/21/17
I wouldn't put too much weight with the youtuber reviewers either, you may want to watch Pat Mac, Jerry Miculek, and even ole Hickock 45 to see how and what they like to shoot.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/21/17
Originally Posted by johnw
Originally Posted by ldholton
Originally Posted by Steelhead
And 90% of the gun guys don't know a thing about most things guns.


this . most of the U tube reviewers are dipshits . to me best one out there is hickcock 45


Hickock 45 prattles on too much for me. Good gun videos are few and far between.


LOL, 45 does talk a lot, but hey, he's an ex teacher. grin

He shoots a wide variety of weapons, plus, I wouldn't want the old coot leveling sights on me, he's a hell of a good shot.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/21/17
Let's not forget about NutnFancy.
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Let's not forget about NutnFancy.

He's not well liked here at the Fire.
Posted By: Triggernosis Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/21/17
Originally Posted by The_Real_Hawkeye
Originally Posted by Triggernosis
Let's not forget about NutnFancy.

He's not well liked here at the Fire.

I was being sarcastically facetious.
Posted By: Desertrat Re: YouTube gun reviews? - 07/21/17
Originally Posted by S99VG
I just watch these things for entertainment. If it doesn't do that then I turn the damn TV or computer off as there's always something else to go do.


Agreed! Same thing with TV, Radio, etc.....just use my favorite button: the OFF switch....problem solved.
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