Currently looking at two slightly different models Anschutz 1416 D HBs.

One a heavy barrel, entry level Anschutz with either a 23″ barrel and BEAVERTAIL fore end or Two, a 1416 Classic sporting stock with a stout HB in an 18" length. These are available in either single or two stage adjustable triggers.

These rifles are on sale in Canada at a number of retailers with savings of around $200 off the MSRP.

Any experience or comments you care to share about the new Ana RF guns.

I'm not a 64 Guy,as I bleed 54's. That being said,I've chopped lotsa' 54 spouts and never with a regret and rather like 18". Hint.








If you want to play with Tuners,the 23" is a better arrangement,as the increase in lengths grants more to tune. I've done lots of both and will always take the shortened spouts' rigidity and laugh a Whiners crying about "chokes". Hint.

Just sayin'....................

"If you want to play with Tuners,the 23" is a better arrangement,as the increase in lengths grants more to tune. I've done lots of both and will always take the shortened spouts' rigidity and laugh a Whiners crying about "chokes".

For the sake of saying so, the 18" is threaded for "chokes" but the 23" is crowned from what I can gather. The 23" HB definitely has a match chamber but 18" sporter's description sadly is a little unclear.

However, I'm leaning towards the longer barrel.

Choke is a reduction of bore diameter,at the muzzle,which is oft touted by Purists. It's never made a fhuqk to me and I'll happily chop spouts well shy of same and never not for the better. Hint.

That being said,I've shortened from the chamber end too,in order to retain said constriction,but will never not bank upon rigidity,which is simply a function of the relationship of length to contour. Hint.

Chamber chopped. Hint.




18" for me. Hint....................

Yep, the longer barrel makes them muzzle heavy. There's only a little hole in them.

The models are not really similar. I would be deciding if I want a Varmint configuration which is what the Beavertail stock is, or a Sporting configuration which is what the Classic is.

Also, I'm curious to know why you refer to them as "new Ana RF guns". I trust because they are brand new?...Tom

Sporter and Target. Hint.




Annie 54 1717's (Hummer) have a little hole and are rather bow heavy,which warrant The Chop. Hint.








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ANA Anschutz North America

The newer 1416s are based on the renowned Match 64 barreled action while some favour the Model 54 variations.

The two models are listed at the same sale price.

I'm pretty familiar with all that; I am the one that explained you're comparing a Varmint rifle to a Sporter rifle.

I asked why you refer to 1416s as "new Ana RF guns". Because they're unused?

It is my understanding the 1416 was discontinued a while ago.

Unless I'm missing something I think you'll find those fine rifles are new old stock?...Tom

They are Anschutz so either will likely be fine. However they are a mass produced item and sometimes there are problems if there are issues ANA will take care of the problem.

It seems to me that you need to decide what you want to use the rifle for and make your decision based on that, those two models have entirely different purposes.

I have owned quite a few Anschutz over the years, both sporting and match rifles, the 1700 series and 1400 series and have had more than acceptable accuracy from both series. I have had 14 series rifles that shot as well as 17 series - for field rifles or lower level competition the 14 series are more than adequate.

drover

"I asked why you refer to 1416s as "new Ana RF guns". Because they're unused?

It is my understanding the 1416 was discontinued a while ago.

Unless I'm missing something I think you'll find those fine rifles are new old stock?...Tom"


Thank you Tom, that's the kind of info I was looking for... chances are these rifles are probably moving through the retail stream a second time seeing as these models were first released in 2017.

I was just playing with the idea of riding a M8 6x scope on top of a blued Anschutz action and barrel in either a sporter or varmint model.

Cheers!

1710 AV HB SS Meister grade.

Those mounts are schit and few things are worse than Burris glass. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!……..

Thanks Stick, Is this O.K?

Not even fhuqking close,but fhuqking HILARIOUS! Hint.



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I have the (left-handed) twin of your prone stock!

Going from memory here, but my past readings suggested there is little if any velocity gain in 22LR's past about 18 inches. I think the longer barrels just offer a bit more weight, stability, and longer sight plain if one is doing irons.

Well we can put this thread to rest as there will be no Anschutz 54 or 64 action for this ol' man.

A lovely walnut stocked CZ 457 LUX in 22 LR with a 24" barrel and iron sights was made available to me at a very reasonable price by the manager of a sporting goods store where I had a credit balance.

'Nuff said.

Cheers!

Same premise,though CZ's suck ass. Hint.






Just sayin'. Hint.





Laughing!.................

Yah, so , whatever.

This is my third CZ 457 along with an MTR and a LRP stocked varmint version. I mean to shoot the Lux un-scoped and simply enjoy plinking with this 22.

Cheers!

They are simply pieces of fhuqking schit. Hint................

I traded my CZ in when I got my Anschutz. Good news all round.

New member here and looking around. I've enjoyed this thread and it has reminded me of The Anschutz short barrel M-MS I used in MS competitions when I was very active in the game. The bright patches on the stock and on the scope above are inspection stickers at the National Champion Matches back in the 1990's. The other Anschutzes in pic have been gather over the years. I'll try to post the pic but don't yet know how. If it doesn't work I'll learn how and try again later.

I don't know how true it is, but I also heard that with the longer barrel you get more of a complete burn with a 22LR which translates into a minute accuracy advantage. Anshultz did a comprehensive test with .22LR's years ago, which I got a copy of (haven't got it anymore). They showed that with standard velocity .22LR ammunition, some barrels get maximum velocity at a shorter length and some at a longer length, with around 16 inches (from memory) being an average. With higher velocity .22LR, I would think that the optimum barrel length for velocity would be longer...perhaps 20 inches. However, optimum velocity is not necessarily the optimum length for accuracy in relation to the complete burn criteria (if it is valid). Another point when chopping Anshultz barrels, I had a heavy 23" which I got chopped to 22" (which is perfect for me). I asked the gunsmith where Anshultz puts the choke i.e. whether it is near the muzzle. I was told that the choke is NOT right at the end near the muzzle, and that an inch chopped would not take off the choke portion.

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That's a beautiful rifle.

Thanks BSA

Gals who "know" and "do" as "much" as you,will always be best served by asking questions,rather than giving "answers". Hint.

Bless your heart for trying. Hint.

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