to be used only for hunting squirrels. i prefer and use long rifle hollow points.

my rifle is fitted with a suppressor

I'm looking for the brand of ammo that is consistently subsonic, shot after shot.

i shot a box of remington 22 subsonics today and they were all over the place. some clearly subsonic, others sounded like full house loads (and shot like them too).

thanks

For small game, like CCI subsonic segmented HPs (0074) out of my suppressed 22s.....

Not really even close.

After comparing just about every brand of sub sonic HPs made, RWS Subsonic HPs all the way.

In 30 years of using them, I have never had one round go Supersonic.
In most rifles they shoot like target ammo and they knock the hell out of game. The lack of noise is just icing on the cake.

I like SK.

Wolf match target. Thump, dead. Accurate. For really quite stuff, avoid the Remington like you found, it is all over and fouls fiercely.

Eley subsonic hollow points shoot well in both my kimbers. I have had good luck with the cci segmented subsonics in my sako.

Dink

I shot some of Winchester's subsonic loads yesterday, and they seemed quite consistent, but it was in the 30s, so I don't know if they'll do the same in warmer weather. CCI's subsonic stuff shot pretty well, too.
Both subsonice loads seemed to be what this rifle favors (and Wolf MT), but it's new, and the weather cold, so no real conclusions can be drawn, yet.

I've been shooting CCI sub sonic H.P's in my Weatherby MK XX11

They seem pretty consistant and accurate, within 1/16" in group size, and WAY cheaper than the "match" stuff.

Virgil B.

CCI sub HPs work well for me

Pretty much my experience too.

I now have one of Paco Kelly's bullet reshapers which puts a flat point on an .22 rf, and increases the diameter a bit for better accuracy. It does make them more even more accurate and the flat holowpoint really smacks critters hard! My Brno 452 shoots better than my old Anchutz match rifle with this ammo prepared with Paco's Accurizr (a lot of slow preparation though).



You can contact Paco Kelly through links HERE. A great guy, and a great product.

John

thanks for the replies men. i'll pick up a box of rws, cci, and wolf and see which my rifle prefers.

I forgot about RWS. I just bought a couple bricks of them and both kimbers shot them very well. The Sako hated them.

Dink

I, too, really like the RWS Subsonic HP. They are very accurate, and in my long barreled .22s, are really quiet.

The Ely Subsonic shot like match ammo from several .22 I had at the time. In chrographing them the rounds were extremely consistent.

As noted above, don't waste your money on Remington...complete inconsistent crap.

A few months ago a friend gave me a brick of Aguila Subsonic. I just tried some in a 28" barrel CZ452 and they were quieter than shooting my friends Savage Tactical with a can....or for that matter my air rifle. Groups at 50 yards were in the .5-.75 range.

Bob

The Eley was always my pick until you suddenly couldn't find it anymore. Damn I wish Eley would get off their ass and start making some ammo again! The SK is very good, RWS also. But for the inexpensive the Winchester Sub Sonic is pretty darned good. The Winchester is better than the CCI in my experience and the Remington isn't even in the running for consideration.

...not Eley's fault...Remington bought Eley as I recall and right after they did the subsonic disappeared...

Bob

i went after squirrels this am (using the rem as they are all i have at the moment) and got just a few (they didn't move much due to temp i suspect). today i tried a different box (though same lot number) and they were just as inconsistent. i plan to visit a gun shop tomorrow and get 4-5 boxes of different brands to try out. thanks for the suggestions.

i was in town today and bought one box of win, and one of rws (both subsonic/hollow points). shot one 3 shot group at 50 yards with each brand a couple hours ago. both brands shot 1/2" or better based on my eyeball calculations. what a difference from the pos remingtons i have been using earlier this week.

thanks for the suggestions. have a good one.

My CZ is liking those Winchesters a whole bunch, too, but the CCI seems like it has possibilities, also. When the weather warms up around here, I'll find out. Glad those are working for you.

SK Subsonic HPs are the best. I used them for a couple of years against the USBR green monster target in a CZ American and they would deliver outstandingly consistent performance. Much better than RWS and Eley subsonics. But, rifles do have their preferences.

My brother went looking for CCI SS after he installed M4-2000 on his 10-22 and couldn't find any in his typical gunshops in the Front Range.

Found plenty of Rem SS and it shot quietly enough at his elevation and temperature. But I prefer the CCI out of any .22; reckon there's a reason they were out everywhere?

Bob,
Are you sure about that? I don't think that is true. I "think" Remington contracted Eley to make some loads for them with a co-banner so Remington could cash in on the Eley name and reputation, but I'm pretty sure they didn't buy out the entire company. Eley has been saying they were redesigning both the sub sonic and the high velocity hollowpoint load (what many of us called the "White Rabbit" load because of the picture on the front cover of the boxes). Supposedly Eley has a new bullet design for those loads... but they are s-l-o-w to get product on the shelves.

Remember, to really test the grouping of different rounds, you should season the bore with 10-20 rounds of a given brand before you shoot your test group. Left over lube from the previous brand may affect how your gun actually shoots different stuff.

shoot4fun - by "consistent" i am talking about velocity (as in the difference in sound between a sub and something faster). i have a suppressor on this .22, and one can easily disern the difference between a sub round and one that isn't. the remington subs i have are not all subs (although they say sunsonic on the box), but vary greatly in sound/velocity, which shows itself in different points of impact. the win and rws are not only accurate, but every round fired sounds exactly like the one before. that is not the case with the rem loads i have. thanks for the response.

I have been using the CCI standard velocitys for a while but they started going supersonic on me last time I was shooting. Not good, so I just ordered 2 bricks of RWS Subsonics. They will be in Thursday and I will report back.

I also have used Wolf Match ammo and had good results.

How did they go sub-sonic on you? I am pretty sure they start out subsonic.

Dink

I am not sure what your saying.

They stay subsonic for in my auto loader, but I was getting some supersonic cracks while shooting them in a 16" bolt gun.

Jbuck I mis-read what you posted. I thought you were saying they were going sub-sonic even though they start out already sub-sonic.

Dink

I'd like to try the RWS but haven't seen it around here (haven't looked very hard though). The CCI standard velocity ammo and segmented HPs have been great but I'm sure the RWS ammo is top notch as well. I might have to give some a try - along with some Wolf Match ammo....

I ordered the RWS from Midwayusa