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I went out yesterday and shot some ground squirrels. I was using some Remington golden bullet 22hp ammo I got several years ago. It seems that about 1/3 of it would fail to feed in my 10/22. That rifle is usually pretty reliable, and was feeding Federal ammo just fine.

I will clean the rifle and give it a try. Worrisome to jack so many rounds out given the current supply situation.
I've never heard anything good about Rem 22's.

I'm using the same ammo of the same vintage without problem in my 10/22. Cleaning sounds like a good idea, and, maybe try a different magazine and make sure it is fully seated. I did have to take a magazine apart once because of a feeding issue. But, I don't recall the exact circumstances.
There will likely no be a better time to move excess Remington 22 ammo than now. It hasn't had great reputation for a good while but just about any 22 ammo is valuable at the moment.
Years ago about the only Rem ammo that functioned well in my 1022, were the Thunderbolts.

'Bout any sort of their Golden Bullet crap, especially that which was once packaged bulk in waxy "milk cartons", caused jams most of the time. Smoke stacks, failure to extract and eventually feeding issues, as the 1022 became gunked up from that gooey stuff.

Haven't bought much of any Rem 22 ammo in many years, as a result. Winchester, CCI and Federal, few if any issues over those many years.
Just ran 50 though my cz, good accuracy and no problems.. the only true crap ammo I had WW..
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Just ran 50 though my cz, good accuracy and no problems.. the only true crap ammo I had WW..


Send me 50 and I'll try 'em in my CZ, too.

Might be slightly improved since the last time I tried any Remski ammo, lo them many years ago?

grin

The only WW ammo I've ever liked, are the older Dynapoints. Still have some left from the days when they came in white boxes.

Measure the driving band. I had trouble with some Golden and Thunderbolts and they measured as fat as 0.228 . Worked fine in bolt action but turned a Ruger Mk and a S&W M&P22 into jamamatics.
Originally Posted by tominboise
I was using some Remington golden bullet 22hp ammo I got several years ago.


crap ammo
Originally Posted by WyoCoyoteHunter
Just ran 50 though my cz, good accuracy and no problems.. the only true crap ammo I had WW..


Same here.

They always shot 3/4" or less at 50 yards in my CZs. No failures to feed or fire shooting BRICKS of the stuff.

Then again, a CZ 452 is a manual feed bolt rifle with a decently snug chamber and a consistent firing pin strike. Unlike most semi autos.
Well, the only thing to do is to head back out to the desert this afternoon with the same ammo and different rifle and see what happens.

It's tough work, but someone has to do it...
Friends don't let friends shoot Remington Golden Bullets. eek
Golden bullets have kilt many critter for me, probably thousand's of em.

Have seen more than one Ruger auto that would jam unless CCI Minimags were used.
Friend of mine has sent her new MkIII lightweight pistol back several times. This time around the Ruger rep told her she has to shoot only Mini Mags in it for proper results. WTH?

As for 1022s, my oldest clunker will digest anything from WW Wildcats to Mini Mags with nary a hiccup. Always has. Anything except gooey Remcraps.
So I went out with my old Remington 121 pump rifle. No misfeeds, as to be expected. I did have 2 misfires out of approx 100 rounds, which I thought was excessive. The rest shot fine and the ground squirrels they hit were promptly sent to the big grass field in the sky. They seem to kill a little better then the equivalent Federal hollowpoints. I have about four 525 round boxes of these. I'll have a better idea of performance when they are all gone......

Tom
2% misfires is pretty good for GB. Just for the sake of science, I ran some misfires through four weapons and printed deep pin strikes all around their rims. No go in Savage and Marlin rifles, or in T/C and ruger pistols. Some of them just don't get any primer, I guess.

I get more like 10-20% in a variety of handguns. I tried some in a 22/45 a couple of weeks ago and I had one round that would not go after 2 extra restrikes at different parts of the rim. Others fired on 1 restrike. The only reason I have not tossed my remaining stash is because I have not tried them with a rifle, and the rifle shooters appear to have better success.
A very high percentage of FTF in the wife's Remington 572, will fire in my CZ 452, guesstimate 75% or higher.
Such is often the case. I got quite a few WW 333 FTF rounds that were run thru a semi, to go bang in a bolt rifle. Not all, but quite a few of them.
I must be blessed, almost all the Remington ammo runs well in my guns ,in fact the thunderbolts a lot of people knock is some of the most accurate ammo in many of my guns
I have never had any luck with the golden bullets or the thunderbolts.

The one Remington 22 Long Rifle load that I have had luck with was/is the YellowJackets.

They usually don't display the accuracy of the Mini Mag, but they kill stuff really good.
Just shot about 100 of new man. golden hollowpoints.. All fired excellent accuracy, and kills ground squirrels great.. Never shot many thunderbolts.. for my bolt guns the goldens work fine.. My shoot pal has had excellent success with all of his rifles and golden bullets..
Haven't shot them in my 10/22 as I seldom use it for much.. Will give them a try later next week..
When I was kid (the 1960's and 70's), Remington was the best ammo around. I still remember the wooden case with glass door that would sit on the check out counter at the hardware stores....
I have had terrible luck with Remington rimfire in the past. Frequent duds (in guns that don't misfire with any other brands), low-powered rounds, extreme flyers, etc. To the point that I generally avoided buying Remington 22LR regardless of the price.
Due to the ongoing shortage I found myself in possession of a 500ct box of Thunderbolts recently. It was what was available and beggers can't be choosers.
I tried them first in my Ciener 1911 conversion. All fired and functioned reliably and accuracy was reasonable at pistol distances. Next an accuracy test with a very accurate Remington 582. This gun normally shoots 10 shot groups into .75 at 50 yards with other ammo-and it's not picky.
I was checking for flyers so I shot 50 rounds at a 2inch spot at 50 yards. 48 were within the spot with 2 flyers-1 about 3 inches high and the other the same amount low. Clearly ammo-induced flyers as I also recalled 2 shots that sounded 'different'. All fired the first time though which was an improvement over my past experience.
Next I test a Winchester 77 with open sights that is normally fairly accurate and reliable as well. Again all fired the first time. Plinking accuracy with open sights was decent (2 inch 10 shot groups at 50 yards with the occasional flyer). Reliability was not great with about 1 of 10 stove-piping. I am not able to completely rule out the rifle though.
Overall I would still prefer Winchester or CCI when available but it does look like Remington may be making some improvement in this area.
My ammo of choice for shooting game or varmints is CCI HPTS..No doubt.. I have also had good luck with WW Power Points, but in this area they are difficult to find even in good times.. I also shoot lots of varmints with Stingers and Yellowjackets.. Fed. ammo is for plinking with my pistols.. When I bought this last batch of ammo in Dec. That is what I had in mind I would do with it.. But with the comments on Rem. ammo I decided I would give it a try.. As I said it has been very good for the uses I put it too.. I put 5 shots in a dime the other eve. after putting a new scope on the CZ.. Nothing great, but considering the heavy winds, and the fact I was shooting out the window of my truck with an elbow on the steering wheel and a rest on the mirror it wasn't bad..
I don't feel it is the greatest stuff around, but this spring I could easily do all my gopher shooting with it and never miss out.. As far as underpowered loads, I always wear muffs due to very poor hearing, so that could occur.. But I never noticed any stray shots..
As I said, I only have one autoloader for .22 rifles a 10/22 with a fairly heavy barrel.. It seems accurate, but I haven't put 200 rounds though it so can't say.. As spring goes along, I will give it a try with the Rem. ammo and see what happens..
I have used Remington golden bullets for years in many - MANY different BA .22 rifles and my S&W 8 3/8th inch barreled revolver - and now use them in a Ruger "tactical" 10/22 and a pair of Ruger .22/45 pistols.

I had ONE jam several years ago - the nose of the bullet slammed into the feed ramp - but that is all I can report.

Terry
Get a bolt gun and keep it clean-Muddy
Muddy, that's good advice. One of my .22s is a bolt gun, however, and it won't fire the duds either.

All 4 of my .22s make nice, sharp firing pin strikes (and thus are clean enough to function properly) and none will fire the GB duds. If the first one I try a cartridge in won't fire it, none of them will.

I haven't tried GBs in a CZ, because my CZ is a .17. I would feel pretty safe doing it with a round that had ftf in my .22 rifles and pistols though.
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
I have never had any luck with the golden bullets or the thunderbolts.

The one Remington 22 Long Rifle load that I have had luck with was/is the YellowJackets.

They usually don't display the accuracy of the Mini Mag, but they kill stuff really good.


^^^This^^^
I shoot mostly Stingers & CCI Mini-Mags. WW Powerpoints never give me any problems, either. I don't waste my money on the cheap Remington Bulk Golden Bullets. It's a PITA
The only .22 rimfire I have at the moment is a Remington 541-T.

It seems to digest everything and I've never had a mis-feed or mis-fire with any type of ammo.
Jocko, I mostly use an old Rem 580 SS and it always works, no matter whose ammo or how much I shoot. I keep the bolt and chamber clean but very seldom clean the barrel (old small bore shooter habit). Also Folks DON"T try to refire your "duds". I have had the rims rupture at the old firing pin strike, it gets your attention right away and might just harm that pretty 10-22. Muddy
They work great in my new 10/22, but my ruger 22/45 lite thats another story! Every other round is a misfeed! Everything else I've shot in it works perfect. Even after magazine safety and loaded chamber indicator delete, still has a problem with the golden bullet.
Originally Posted by CrimsonTide
I have never had any luck with the golden bullets or the thunderbolts.

The one Remington 22 Long Rifle load that I have had luck with was/is the YellowJackets.

They usually don't display the accuracy of the Mini Mag, but they kill stuff really good.




Exactly what I was thinking and have experienced. When you say "stuff", I highly concur wink
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