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Posted By: sidepass New shooter - 08/14/15
So my grandson finally called and said papa I'm ready to learn to shoot with you. He is / was a child that wasn't comfortable away from mom dad. Seems things are changing. Was going to order a Ruger 10/22 tonight then thought a bolt action might be a better tool for beginning. Also more frugal with ammo. What think you?
Do have a fair amount of 22lr on hand .
Posted By: Outbackandy Re: New shooter - 08/14/15
Yes, I would go with a bolt action myself, less likely for a accident to happen.
Even Marlin is still making a bolt action with a tube feed where you can use .22 shorts, long and LR's just adds to the fun.
Posted By: Lockhart Re: New shooter - 08/14/15
What is his age and what could he hold shooting offhand? Bolt or single shot says "Starter".
Posted By: sidepass Re: New shooter - 08/14/15
10 years old and he's a big boy. Been busy playing baseball the last 5 years. Pretty sure offhand will be no problem. Think bolt the more I think about it. Thanks.
Posted By: 1minute Re: New shooter - 08/14/15
Young males always go the route of lead in the air if started with a semi auto. Something about if I miss the first time a couple quick ones will surely score.

Locally, it's rare to ever see a kid in the squirrel fields with semi ever hit anything.

Start with bolt action and work on technique, form, and accuracy.
Posted By: MichiganScott Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
I bought a Ruger American Compact to use when my grandsons are ready. You can buy full size stock modules for the rifle when they grow. You will have a full size stock on a compact barrel. Not a bad thing.

One mistake a friend of mine made with his grandson was trying to sight in the rifle with the kid present. He never did and the kid couldn't hit anything. It's important that they can see positive results their first time out even if shooting distances need to be measured in feet and not yards.
Posted By: sidepass Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
MichiganScott
Was looking at the Rugers last night. And yes it will be sighted in before he touches it. Have been waiting for this day so I'm kind of excited. Have a Remington 552 semi that I can shoot alongside him.
Posted By: Paul39 Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
Originally Posted by 1minute
Young males always go the route of lead in the air if started with a semi auto. Something about if I miss the first time a couple quick ones will surely score.

Locally, it's rare to ever see a kid in the squirrel fields with semi ever hit anything.

Start with bolt action and work on technique, form, and accuracy.

Absolutely stay away from semiautos as a first rifle.

As a volunteer range officer, I frequently monitor youth shooting groups in this area.

Blazing away is certainly "fun", but better that they learn that satisfaction from accomplishment, and fun, can go together. I'm talking about the big grin after shooting a nice tightly centered group, or nailing a distant target with one carefully placed shot.

Paul
Posted By: Homesteader Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
sidepass - the RAR rimfires are just awesome the way the interchangeable stock modules function. Nothing could be simpler...take out the rear swivel stud, put in what you want i.e. LOP adjustment, hi/lo comb etc. Re-install swivel and, presto, the stock now fits. As the youth grows so does the stock w/o any unsightly spacers etc. Even an outta work 'all thumbs' brain surgeon can do it. Homesteader
Posted By: sidepass Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
Think the Rugers it. After he masters the irons we will put a scope on it. This all will lead to his first shotgun and centerfire rifle, since dad is not a hunter. First hunting trip will be to the family rice for rabbits on the levies.
Posted By: JimHnSTL Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
Originally Posted by sidepass
Think the Rugers it. After he masters the irons we will put a scope on it. This all will lead to his first shotgun and centerfire rifle, since dad is not a hunter. First hunting trip will be to the family rice for rabbits on the levies.


That's how I did it with my 3 sons. Also if it is not a single shot I prefer a detachable magazine opposed to a tube fed model. I like the idea of quickly being able to remove the ammo plus you can shoot a detachable mag as a single shot where as with a tube fed magazine it is almost impossible. Iron sites mastered and then yep move him up to a scope.
Posted By: Sheister Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
Just about the best beginner rifle I've seen (and bought) was a Remington 581. Very light, smooth action, very accurate, and in a reasonable price range for a first rifle. I've got lots of .22 rimfire rifles, but my son still uses his Rem. 581 when we go for squirrels or rabbits.

Bob
Posted By: bea175 Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
One of the best 22 to start with is the Remington 572 pump if you can find one.
Posted By: Pappy348 Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
Hard to argue with the RAR, considering the stock modules and good trigger. 581s are nice and handle shorts too, but who has seen any shorts lately, and even if you do, they cost as much as the LRs.

The CCI Quiet .22 40gr shoot pretty well, are very quiet, and are one of the few CCI loads I see regularly available. They feed just fine as they are full length.
Posted By: MichiganScott Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
Originally Posted by sidepass
MichiganScott
Was looking at the Rugers last night. And yes it will be sighted in before he touches it. Have been waiting for this day so I'm kind of excited. Have a Remington 552 semi that I can shoot alongside him.


Didn't mean to suggest that you'd take him out without sighting in the rifle first. My point was that today's kids are all about instant gratification and my friend pushed the issue because the kid wanted to get behind the gun. If they don't get that gratification, they are no longer interested.

Although I'm a firm believer in the need to become proficient with iron sights, I have become convinced that it should happen after the new shooter has started shooting acceptable groups with a scope. Place the cross hair on the target and send the bullet on it's way. I always have a scoped rifle with me when teaching someone to shoot irons regardless of age. When they start to become frustrated with the irons, out comes the scope. A pistol with a red dot also comes out when frustration sets in with irons on a handgun.
Posted By: sidepass Re: New shooter - 08/15/15
No problem, understand newbies need instant gratification and having a rifle ready to go is a good thing. I'll have a second rifle standing by scoped. Hey guys it's so cool having so much knowledge standing by at all times. Thanks!
Posted By: RS308MX Re: New shooter - 08/19/15
I bought my grandson a Henry lever youth .22 when he was 8. He still loves it 5 years later. He shoots it a lot.
Posted By: Certifiable Re: New shooter - 08/19/15
Definetly agree with a bolt as opposed to an auto. Also made was a good point about a detachable mag for when it's time to clear the gun it's drop the mag and clear the chamber and done. No tube full of rounds for the boy to fumble with when cease fire is called. Can't say enough about the RAR's myself and it seems a perfect fit for what your looking for..
Best of luck shooting with the youngster whichever route you choose.
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