I’ve been looking for an Adirondack because I want something super short and lightweight for tree stand and tree saddle hunting, as well as packing in the mountains of North Carolina. I have a couple of Tikka’s but wanting something a little smaller and super packable.

I’ve had a hard time locating a Kimber adirondac which was the top of the list but this past weekend I stopped in the gun store and saw a couple of HOWA rifles that were extremely compact and lightweight. These were dressed in Kryptec camouflage.

Is anyone familiar with these? The price tag was $1100 and I don’t remember the model name but it was super light or ultralight or something like that. Short action.

Plain Kimber Hunter and a couple cans of Krylon if you want to paint the stock?

I saw a NIB Kimber Hunter in 270 priced at $730 a week or so ago. It was the last one that they had and was the style with a black Cerakote finish.

Sent you a pm on a Kimber, could buy that and cut down and thread…

Where did you see this rifle? I’d be interested for sure.

This thread was right under your nose:

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbt...s/17489143/howa-1500-rifles#Post17489143

The one on the last page is probably the one you saw, but they have others with regular floorplates, some with carbon-wrapped barrels etc. For deer, I’d get a Mini in 6.5 Grendel, already did in fact, but had to piece it together since it pre-dates the Carbon Stalkers. Mine goes under 6.5lbs with a 18oz scope.

I'm surprised the Tikka didn't meet your needs. My brother bought a Tikka T3X 30-06 Superlight and it came in at around 6.5 lbs without scope. I was very impressed with how light and how accurate it was right out of the box with factory fodder... easily at around an inch at 100 yards with Rem Core lok ammo....

Remington 600 or the 660

Not lite, but super short.

love me some remmy 600/660 i built a really nice 300 savage with it. sorry i hi jacked the thread

The M600 is pretty light, listed at 5 lb. 5 oz. while the Montana 84M specs at 5 lb. 2 oz.

For sure, I really like my Tikka. It is in 7mag and I’m looking for something super short and super light with shots typically inside 200 yards. I’ve been using the Tikka pretty much exclusively and leaving everything else in the safe the last three seasons, but there are a few public land areas I’m looking at hiking into this season and trying to shave every ounce I can. Once I get there, I will be in tight quarters so I’m looking for something just a bit smaller/shorter. Part of that equation is going to a short action.

I bought a Christensen Mesa FFT in 308 very nice gun

Model 7

The Howa rifle you saw is probly the Superlite model (less than 5lbs) My LGS has a few of those on his shelf a I thought the action's on his were rough as hell..before you buy take a Look at the Christensen Mesa FFT, its a 700 clone with improvements and with the FFT stock it is very light indeed...I have a Mesa FFT and a Ridgeline FFT both are chambered in .308 Win and they are both very good shooters and function flawlessly 👍.......Good luck....Hb

You might also be thinking of the Howa Alpine rifle. They were chambered for several short-action cartridges. Some had detachable magazines, some had BDL-style floorplates. All had Bansner stocks, which are worth the cost of the rifle.

I sold my Alpine because the balance was too far to the rear. I shoot offhand nearly all of the time on game, and I can't abide a rifle that floats like the Alpine did. I also had the misfortune to compare it to an exceptionally accurate Tikka T3 in 308 that I owned at the time. I sold the Alpine because the Tikka outshot it slightly.


Okie John

I haven't owned a Howa, but the actions I have tried are not in the same class as my $600 kimber Hunter in 243. The Kimber is accurate as well.

Here's my preference for light rifles:

1. Kimber Montana (and derivatives)
2. Tikka T3/T3x
3. Weatherby Ultra Light (do they still make this?)

All are quality and light and accurate with good triggers and nicely balanced. Based on a number, it's rare to get a lemon in these three.

If you're looking to spend Adirondack kinda money, you could build the rifle to your specs.





Thats a M700 short action weighing in at 6 1/4lbs.

I snagged a Brown's Precision Pound'r very cheap on a forum. I had a donor action. Barrel was ordered to my specs from McGowen. It's a remage setup...Remington threads with a savage barrel nut to set headspace.


I got lucky and had a donor action laying around and snagging the stock cheap. I'm to the point now that if I'm spending $1000+ on a rifle, I will try to build it. Yes you'll spend more than $1000 to build most rifles...if I'm spending that much, I'll spend more to get something that i actually want and checks all the boxes not just most of them.


In my case, I got lucky with a low cost action and stock and now I have a rifle that checks all my boxes...and probably one of the few m700s chambered in 450 Bushmaster.

HOWA makes great stuff, I wouldn't hesitate if it fits your needs. And unlike Kimber, they function, and shoot reliably and accurately.

Haven’t seen an Alpine for sale in a while. I’m giving mine to my son’s family for kids’ use, today in fact. Great rifle. Fully bedded barrel puts different loads in pretty much the same spot, a nice trait.

Ingwe: I agree with everything you say about Howa/Vanguard rifles. However you left one thing out. They are so darn heavy. Not only does the 2 lb. 13 oz. action weigh the same as a Mauser 98 action but the factory injection molded stock is one of the heaviest I have seen. The only time I use my Vanguard rifle is when I get delivered to my shooting hut by electric golf cart in Alabama. When I am hoofing it every where else I hunt my 5 1/2 lb. Winchester Model 70 Lightweight is more approriate. Just for comparison a Remington 700 action weighs 2 lb. 4 oz.

I own several light weights nice guns

How ‘bout we stick to facts?!

What about a ruger american compact in 308 winchester?

As light as the rest, accurate, and an actual short action.

A Leopold 2.5x ultralight in weaver aluminum rings, you'd be at 6.4 lbs scoped.

That 37" overall length would be a perfect set-up only setting you back about $600 for rifle, scope and rings.

Mainer, this is a great idea. I actually have a compact American in 7-08 for my daughter. Would work great.

One of them "heavy" Howies. Hint.



Fhuqking LAUGHING!.............

Stick, What bottom metal are you running in that Howa.?

Wayne's World aluminum BDL bottom,like this. Hint.




Not a bad way to fly. Hint............

Stick is that a Mini Mauser action in your photo? The Howa Mini-Mauser action weighs 2 lb 1 oz. if you can live with .223 Remington length cartridge. The actual magazine box is 2.8" inches long. At one time Firearms International offered the Mini Mauser in 22/250 but there was not much meat left when the bolt face was opened up to .473.

The Howie Mini and a Mouser Mini,are VERY different animals,in that the Mouser is a clunky piece of fhuqking schit,as a BEST case scenario. Hint.

For conversation and why nothing Mouser can begin to "compete". Hint.



I personally prefer the 22PPC AFI to a '250 and same(PPC AFI) is housed MAGNIFICENTLY in the Mini Howie,with .545 BC magfed Smooches. Hint.



All S/S would be nice. Hint.



Which is why I likely have a "few" Montuckies. Hint................

What DD mounts are on the minis? A quick google came up Mark V. Would love to lower the scope on my son’s mini in a Boyd’s carbon.

Reupold Rem 700 REVF DD's. Hint..............

You gotta really watch the weight on those minis, they get burdensome. Must be the ‘bull barrel’, or maybe because it’s a magnum.

It's ALL about the barrel contour and the 22PPC AFI is indeed Magnumer than fhuqk. Hint.




Nearly hurt my Baby 270 Montucky's heart,in OEM guise. Nearly. Hint.



Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

Stick: Thanks for weighing the Howa Mini action.

That's a Montucky 84M wearing a .473" snout,which became a Baby 6BR of Legend. Hint.

You are doing "GREAT!" and really "know" your stuff. Hint.

Fhuqking LAUGHING!..............

I saw one a few weeks ago if we're talking the same rifle. It was the Howa superlite. They make in 308 or 6.5 creedmore. From the website 4.7 lbs. After handling it I believe it. The stock was slim and a tacky texture. I'm not a huge fan of the kryptic camo etc but I'll say the rifle felt amazing in my hands. My good friend was also pretty impressed. Price was 1100.

Nawwwwwwwww...you were referencing this. Hint.



I was referencing these. Them differences are stark and your numbers are crossed. Hint.



Just sayin'...................

take a look at the (now discontinued) SAvage LWH series.

the boy and I use these as primary elk rifles in .308. 1.25" 5 shot groups from a rifle that weighs 7# 0oz scoped and ready to hunt.