I am in the market for a 270 Win. Trying to keep it under $1,000. I’ve looked at Howa, Weatherby Vanguard and Sauer and they were ok. The Bergara B14 fit me the best but the reviews have been iffy. The Browning Xbolt was also nice but over my price point. I have not had a chance to look at the CVA Cascade or the Mauser M18
If push came to shove today, the Vanguard and Sauer would lead the pack. Anything else out there I should be looking at?
Any reason you're not considering Tikka?
Kimber MT's and Model 70's on the used market.
The Howa/Vanguard would be my pick from above.
Any reason you're not considering Tikka?
Tikka is on the list. Forgot to mention it.
Thanks for the suggestions
In many many years of frequenting LGS in my area, I have seen a grand total of 5 M70s, 3 featherweights, a super grade and an XTR. That is in 40 years of shopping/looking. Not sure why.
I’ve seen far more Kimbers
I’ll look harder at the M70
1st generation Remington M700 Ti
Tikka for accuracy and carry weight ease.......................
If I needed another one, I’d try the Tikka just because I never had one, and they offer a lot of configurations.
It's too bad the 270 has been somewhat relegated down the popularity list as it's one of the best cartridges released in the last 100yrs.
Another vote for a Tikka.
Good shooting used 270’s include the A-Bolt, model 700, model 70 and Ruger 77. I would exhaust the used market for a minty one before I ponied up and bought new.
In many many years of frequenting LGS in my area, I have seen a grand total of 5 M70s, 3 featherweights, a super grade and an XTR. That is in 40 years of shopping/looking. Not sure why.
I’ll look harder at the M70
It's popular enough that they aren't on the shelves for very long most likely.
I've never been fascinated with the O'Connor darling, but have with the. 25-06. In all the animals don't seem to tell any difference. With that said I still kept a .270 in the accumulation, and it gets used on occasion by family. Not a bad choice, there's a reason it's stuck around.
The next new rifle I buy I’m going to give Tikka a try. Too many great reviews to ignore.
1st generation Remington M700 Ti
Be tough to find one of those under a grand.
MM
1st generation Remington M700 Ti
Be tough to find one of those under a grand.
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Yes it would be very tough, I missed the op’s price point
I second that, bought a Sears model 53 last month...left enough money on the table for a decent scope. And of course, it's a shooter, without modification, tweaking and tuning nonsense...a case full of 4831 and your choice of projectile.
A .270 for under a thousand....the easy button would be to choose which of several configurations of the Remington 700 that are under a thousand suits you best and get one. For under $200 you can put a Burris FFII 3-9 on it and be ready to rock and roll.
The 700's aren't as popular with the cool kids as some of the more exotic options, but you'd be more than likely to get a reliable, accurate rifle. If the Timney trigger the new ones come with didn't suit you, it's a fifteen minute job to swap it out for an adjustable one. If you want parts, accessories or want to build on it down the road, there's a whole aftermarket industry out there. It's the Chevy pickup of rifles. I'm kind of a gun snob and I like nice stuff. That said, I do have a couple 700's that will be among the stuff my wife will have to deal with after I kick the bucket.
I would pick up a 700 used, put a barrel and stock of my choice and go. Usually, I just use the factory wood stock. Give it a try, it might be a shooter from the factory.
A .270 for under a thousand....the easy button would be to choose which of several configurations of the Remington 700 that are under a thousand suits you best and get one. For under $200 you can put a Burris FFII 3-9 on it and be ready to rock and roll.
Pretty sensible choice. I think a Vanguard or Howa would be as well.
270 needs to be a model 70. I sold mine (cause I'm an idiot) and I will never have another like it. It had speed, power, and an awesome stock. I actually shot several coyotes with it and the old varix 10 power it wore.
I'd offer a Kimber Hunter fits in that price range. A Kimber MT could be had for close to a grand. In fact I'm watching a Kimber Hunter 270 on GB right now. It's at $570 but does have 4 days left.
270 needs to be a model 70. I sold mine (cause I'm an idiot) and I will never have another like it. It had speed, power, and an awesome stock. I actually shot several coyotes with it and the old varix 10 power it wore.
"Damned adequate" according to Elmer!
Nice rifle.
270 needs to be a model 70. I sold mine (cause I'm an idiot) and I will never have another like it. It had speed, power, and an awesome stock. I actually shot several coyotes with it and the old varix 10 power it wore.
"Damned adequate" according to Elmer!
Nice rifle.
I thought Elmer considered the .270 “a good pest rifle.”
I hate to even think about that gun. Sucker would rag hole 130 interlocks with 59.5 grains of h4831 seated .005 off. Win case and win LR primers. Shot several song dogs one spring out to 350 with it. 1.5" high at 100 was a dead hold to 230. It was almost 25-06 like in terms of flat shooting. I killed one at 350-360 ish and I remember holding the bottom of the horizontal cross hair on top of his back about 4 or 5 inches and thump. Another dead dog. I actually preferred it to a 25-06 with 117s.
I hate to think that I didn't buy it!
270 needs to be a model 70. I sold mine (cause I'm an idiot) and I will never have another like it. It had speed, power, and an awesome stock. I actually shot several coyotes with it and the old varix 10 power it wore.
"Damned adequate" according to Elmer!
Nice rifle.
I thought Elmer considered the .270 “a good pest rifle.”
Damned adequate coyote rifle.
I hate to even think about that gun. Sucker would rag hole 130 interlocks with 59.5 grains of h4831 seated .005 off. Win case and win LR primers. Shot several song dogs one spring out to 350 with it. 1.5" high at 100 was a dead hold to 230. It was almost 25-06 like in terms of flat shooting. I killed one at 350-360 ish and I remember holding the bottom of the horizontal cross hair on top of his back about 4 or 5 inches and thump. Another dead dog. I actually preferred it to a 25-06 with 117s.
25-06 and 270 are very close with that 117/120 and 130 grain comparison. Although some claim the 25 is better suited for longer range when set up this way.
Makes me hold my head a bit sideways when I hear this.
Give me a 270 every time.
Ran alot of 90 grain Sierra through my 25, and it didn't impress me as much as a 243 and 75s.
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25. Then as a bonus, you can shoot 130, 140, and 150 grain bullets and have a very versatile stomper.
The last .270 I bought was an M70 XTR with a synthetic stock in the shape of the Winchester M70 Featherweight. I needed it like I needed a hole in my head but the guy said it was very accurate so I bought it. I took a nice antelope with it back in 2009. I stopped at an LGS and bought a couple of boxes of Winchester 150 gr. ammo tor try the rifle and get some more brass. I wanted fresh brass fire formed in that rifle to set up my die. The guy wasn't lying. The rifle is very accurate. It seems the stock is a McMillan installed by Winchester and four five shot groups ran from .50" to .80" on the last set of shots fired. I decided it was a keeper.
I'm a fan of controlled feed rifles so if I was out looking for a rifle chambered to the .270, I'd be looking for a pre64 M70 (pricey!) or one based on a commercial Mauser action. A J.C. Higgins M50 or 51 in .270 would work although I'de prefer a 24" barrel. The M50 is usually quite accurate but finding one in .270 might be difficult. I find them in 30-06 quite often but the .270s are scare. Either not a lot were made of those that have them are not letting them go. FN commercial rifles can be found with 24" but again a bit scarce. I found one for $250 and it came with scope and two stocks, the original and a Butler Creek. That rifle is another very accurate rifle regardless of which stock I use. Both stocks have been glass bedded.
PJ
The last .270 I bought was an M70 XTR with a synthetic stock in the shape of the Winchester M70 Featherweight. I needed it like I needed a hole in my head but the guy said it was very accurate so I bought it. I took a nice antelope with it back in 2009. I stopped at an LGS and bought a couple of boxes of Winchester 150 gr. ammo tor try the rifle and get some more brass. I wanted fresh brass fire formed in that rifle to set up my die. The guy wasn't lying. The rifle is very accurate. It seems the stock is a McMillan installed by Winchester and four five shot groups ran from .50" to .80" on the last set of shots fired. I decided it was a keeper.
I'm a fan of controlled feed rifles so if I was out looking for a rifle chambered to the .270, I'd be looking for a pre64 M70 (pricey!) or one based on a commercial Mauser action. A J.C. Higgins M50 or 51 in .270 would work although I'de prefer a 24" barrel. The M50 is usually quite accurate but finding one in .270 might be difficult. I find them in 30-06 quite often but the .270s are scare. Either not a lot were made of those that have them are not letting them go. FN commercial rifles can be found with 24" but again a bit scarce. I found one for $250 and it came with scope and two stocks, the original and a Butler Creek. That rifle is another very accurate rifle regardless of which stock I use. Both stocks have been glass bedded.
PJ
Give me a 270 every time.
Ran alot of 90 grain Sierra through my 25, and it didn't impress me as much as a 243 and 75s.
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25. Then as a bonus, you can shoot 130, 140, and 150 grain bullets and have a very versatile stomper.
That 90 Sierra HP is a stout bullet.
A bud used the 100 grain Hornady HP in his 270 for a few years. He said it would flat open a coyote up.
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25.
Not if you are loading them to the same pressure.
The 25-06 with the 75gr hp, (lightest regular cup and core) using IMR4064 will hit 3700 fps at book recipes. With a 120gr, 3000 fps is doable with several powders, again at book recipes.
The 270W using 90gr hp, max book is barely over 3500 fps. With 130s, 3100fps but at 2k higher pressure. With 150s it's pedestrian.
There isn't any magic in the 270 Win.
Any reason you're not considering Tikka?
Tikka is on the list. Forgot to mention it.
That is where I'd start. I'm surprised that was not listed in the OP. Save yourself the headache and get the Tikka. I'd look at the stainless version myself, like the T3x. Maybe even the superlite, if you have a Cabela's near by. Or like beretzs said, a used Model 70 or Montana. Good luck with your search!!
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25.
Not if you are loading them to the same pressure.
The 25-06 with the 75gr hp, (lightest regular cup and core) using IMR4064 will hit 3700 fps at book recipes. With a 120gr, 3000 fps is doable with several powders, again at book recipes.
The 270W using 90gr hp, max book is barely over 3500 fps. With 130s, 3100fps but at 2k higher pressure. With 150s it's pedestrian.
There isn't any magic in the 270 Win.
Ain't much magic to a 25-06 either.
Apples to apples, 90 grain vs 90 grain, will be so damn close it's not even worth it.
What the 270 can do that the 25-06 can't, is shoot bigger bullets. Even if you twist them faster the 270 is still superior.
For 75s, shoot a 6mm something, for 120 plus, a .270 will do anything you can ask of it.
The last .270 I bought was an M70 XTR with a synthetic stock in the shape of the Winchester M70 Featherweight. I needed it like I needed a hole in my head but the guy said it was very accurate so I bought it. I took a nice antelope with it back in 2009. I stopped at an LGS and bought a couple of boxes of Winchester 150 gr. ammo tor try the rifle and get some more brass. I wanted fresh brass fire formed in that rifle to set up my die. The guy wasn't lying. The rifle is very accurate. It seems the stock is a McMillan installed by Winchester and four five shot groups ran from .50" to .80" on the last set of shots fired. I decided it was a keeper.
I'm a fan of controlled feed rifles so if I was out looking for a rifle chambered to the .270, I'd be looking for a pre64 M70 (pricey!) or one based on a commercial Mauser action. A J.C. Higgins M50 or 51 in .270 would work although I'de prefer a 24" barrel. The M50 is usually quite accurate but finding one in .270 might be difficult. I find them in 30-06 quite often but the .270s are scare. Either not a lot were made of those that have them are not letting them go. FN commercial rifles can be found with 24" but again a bit scarce. I found one for $250 and it came with scope and two stocks, the original and a Butler Creek. That rifle is another very accurate rifle regardless of which stock I use. Both stocks have been glass bedded.
PJ
PJ, those sound like an awesome pair. I remember my gunsmith/friend telling me that in his experience with pre 64 model 70's, that the 270's shot better than any of them. He was not kidding. Every damn 270 I've had shoots lights out!!! I have a couple pre 64's that I'm hanging on to right now. One a fwt, and the other a std wt. Both beautiful rifles to me. Even though the fwt is not perfect, and the std wt is in a custom stock. I bought them on the same day last year too, so that was even better.. Add that in with the fact they shoot so well, and I should have also bought a lottery ticket that day to finish it off!!!
You can't blame the OP for wanting a 270 winchester, as that is a great all around cartridge.
I have a new to me Kimber BGR in 270 to scope and see how well it shoots.
I was gonna bring up a 280, but the more I play with one, the more I begin to appreciate a good ol 270. As far as versatility goes anyway. Same goes for my 6.5x06 adventures. A 270 is the best of all worlds in a .473 bolt face. Easy as heck to load for, has good case geometry, feeds slick, speed, energy, what really not to like? Not to mention about every hardware store or wally world has a box of core lokts or power points.
I was gonna bring up a 280, but the more I play with one, the more I begin to appreciate a good ol 270. As far as versatility goes anyway. Same goes for my 6.5x06 adventures. A 270 is the best of all worlds in a .473 bolt face. Easy as heck to load for, has good case geometry, feeds slick, speed, energy, what really not to like? Not to mention about every hardware store or wally world has a box of core lokts or power points.
I have a 6.5-06 also. It’s fun to shoot, hammers pigs with 120 Barnes
Tikka for the rifle. But in 2024 I'd pass on a 270 and get a 6.5 CM or 7-08
Not to mention about every hardware store or wally world has a box of core lokts or power points.
That was then, this is now. 270 is fading fast and in another 10 years it may well be a handloaders only cartridge. That's why I'd go with 6.5CM or 7-08.
The 6.5 CM shoots the same bullet weights 150-200 fps slower at the muzzle. By the time you get to 200 yards it's close enough to call it a tie. Good quality, accurate and reasonably priced ammo truly is everywhere now.
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25.
Not if you are loading them to the same pressure.
The 25-06 with the 75gr hp, (lightest regular cup and core) using IMR4064 will hit 3700 fps at book recipes. With a 120gr, 3000 fps is doable with several powders, again at book recipes.
The 270W using 90gr hp, max book is barely over 3500 fps. With 130s, 3100fps but at 2k higher pressure. With 150s it's pedestrian.
There isn't any magic in the 270 Win.
Ain't much magic to a 25-06 either.
Apples to apples, 90 grain vs 90 grain, will be so damn close it's not even worth it.
What the 270 can do that the 25-06 can't, is shoot bigger bullets. Even if you twist them faster the 270 is still superior.
For 75s, shoot a 6mm something, for 120 plus, a .270 will do anything you can ask of it.
The point is, the 270 doesn't " blow by" a 25-06. You are unjustified in suggesting nonsense.
They're basically on the same case, and if heavier bullets is what you'll be likely to use its just as likely the 280 will outperform the 270. If that's your line of thinking the 30-06, the 338-06, the 35 Whelan are all better yet, right?
If you have the twist to spin 135s out of the 25-06, it beats the 270W. Same speeds, better BC. Same reason the 280 is better yet.
When it comes down to it the 270 is like a Chevy truck. It's good enough at everything to make do, but gets beaten in every category by something. ;D
[quote=JMR40]Tikka for the rifle. But in 2024 I'd pass on a 270 and get a 6.5 CM or 7-08
[quote]The 270 is fading fast and in another 10 years it may well be a handloaders only cartridge./quote]
Just when you think you have heard it all.
If that were the case the 280 would have been dead 40+ years ago.
OK. I get your point. Not "blowing by" a 25-06. I simply meant to say a 270 will do everything a 25 will and more. Basically like 2 guns in one. As far as a 280 goes, they're OK, but not by any means that much better than a 270. This being mentioned in factory configurations. A 1:8 .270 don't give up to a 1:8 280 even if you went custom. The b.c on a 170 outta that .270 is pretty good.
For an off the shelf rifle such as a tikka, rem 700, win 70, that 270 would be hard to beat for an all around rifle.
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25.
Not if you are loading them to the same pressure.
The 25-06 with the 75gr hp, (lightest regular cup and core) using IMR4064 will hit 3700 fps at book recipes. With a 120gr, 3000 fps is doable with several powders, again at book recipes.
The 270W using 90gr hp, max book is barely over 3500 fps. With 130s, 3100fps but at 2k higher pressure. With 150s it's pedestrian.
There isn't any magic in the 270 Win.
You might wanna take a look at Barnes data. 110 Barnes in a 24” 270 will run 3500 fps, 95s over 3600 and 85s over 3800.
That 110 at 3500 from a 270 will make a 257 Weatherby obsolete.
I vote for the vanguard s2 for your next rifle. Well made, accurate, and will last a lifetime. YMMV
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25.
Not if you are loading them to the same pressure.
The 25-06 with the 75gr hp, (lightest regular cup and core) using IMR4064 will hit 3700 fps at book recipes. With a 120gr, 3000 fps is doable with several powders, again at book recipes.
The 270W using 90gr hp, max book is barely over 3500 fps. With 130s, 3100fps but at 2k higher pressure. With 150s it's pedestrian.
There isn't any magic in the 270 Win.
You might wanna take a look at Barnes data. 110 Barnes in a 24” 270 will run 3500 fps, 95s over 3600 and 85s over 3800.
That 110 at 3500 from a 270 will make a 257 Weatherby obsolete.
Well there you have it.
Alot of people don't even think of a 270 because it's not the sharp shouldered, tactical, cool cartridge. It's a classic. And really only those who've ever dumped powder into a 270 case can really appreciate it for what it is. I mean, the dang thing can handle 60 grains of powder give or take and get a deer/elk sized bullet absolutely moving.
I've always been on the wildcat crowd and 30-06 user until I bought that O'Conner tribute, then I realized it could become a monster. Problem is, I'm a synthetic/stainless guy and just couldn't justify dragging that rifle around.
[quote=JMR40]Tikka for the rifle. But in 2024 I'd pass on a 270 and get a 6.5 CM or 7-08
[quote]The 270 is fading fast and in another 10 years it may well be a handloaders only cartridge./quote]
Just when you think you have heard it all.
If that were the case the 280 would have been dead 40+ years ago.
Isn't the 270 in ammo sales number 2, right behind the 308?
[quote=JMR40]Tikka for the rifle. But in 2024 I'd pass on a 270 and get a 6.5 CM or 7-08
[quote]The 270 is fading fast and in another 10 years it may well be a handloaders only cartridge./quote]
Just when you think you have heard it all.
If that were the case the 280 would have been dead 40+ years ago.
Tall tale thread.....
Back to the 270, even if a guy wanted to launch a 90 or 100 grainer in it, it's still blowing by a 25.
Not if you are loading them to the same pressure.
The 25-06 with the 75gr hp, (lightest regular cup and core) using IMR4064 will hit 3700 fps at book recipes. With a 120gr, 3000 fps is doable with several powders, again at book recipes.
The 270W using 90gr hp, max book is barely over 3500 fps. With 130s, 3100fps but at 2k higher pressure. With 150s it's pedestrian.
There isn't any magic in the 270 Win.
You might wanna take a look at Barnes data. 110 Barnes in a 24” 270 will run 3500 fps, 95s over 3600 and 85s over 3800.
That 110 at 3500 from a 270 will make a 257 Weatherby obsolete.
Well there you have it.
And the 80gr ttsx will do 3800 out of a 25-06. What's your point? Cherry picking to make your point?
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I'm the real heathen here.
I just used a M700 ADL 270 for a donor for a 280AI build.
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I'm the real heathen here.
I just used a M700 ADL 270 for a donor for a 280AI build.
I did too lol. No kidding! Standard 280 though
Thanks all. Lots to think about but it is definitely going to be a 270 in some shape or form.
A few years ago, I had everything but a 270, though I’ve had some farther back. Now I’ve got a 1st Gen stainless 700 Mtn in a Ti stock, a stainless M70 sporter that I bought to rechber/rebore and whacked to 18” and threaded to play with my suppressors in the mean time. That was a mistake, as it shoots too good to give me any fuzzies about changing it from a 270. So what do you do? Well, picked up another identical stainless M70 sporter today in….270. Promising myself I won’t shoot it before it becomes a 9.3. Maybe I can keep that promise.
Point is, keep an eye out for good, used M70s or 700s. They come along in twos and threes, after the drought.
Point is, keep an eye out for good, used M70s or 700s. They come along in twos and threes, after the drought.
That's a darned fact!
I’ve had several 25-06 the 270 is by far superior
I’ve had several 25-06 the 270 is by far superior
Have had several of each and on whitetails around here I never could tell a nickles difference. Both killed deer dead and that death was pretty much always instant.
100 or 117 grain Gamekings in the 25 and 130 or 150 Gamkekings in the 270.
Generally under 100 yards in my area.
Uncle has used 117 SP Interlock or SST in his since '78 and very few deer ever make a track after being shot.
The .27 may have an advantage on elk with a 150 but something tells me a 115 Partition would work just about the same if shots were identical.
Keep looking. I just scored a G prefix M700 SPS in 270 for $405+tax. I will have to dump the tupperware stock for something better. It is my first 270!
As much as I’ve always loved the 25-06 as a deer/coyote round, even with a fast twist and heavy bullets it’s not gonna be all that a 270 can be. Low recoil and fast and light are where the 25 shines, but if we stay as they come off the rack, there’s a lot to be said for a 150gr 270 vs a 117gr 25 on bigger stuff or hard angles. If you want to go fast twist and heavies, the 270 is far closer to the 280 than the 25-06 is to the 270.
Kimber MT's and Model 70's on the used market.
That’s pretty much how I feel. I have Stainless M70 Fwt 270, and just picked up a used Kimber 84L MT 270 today (my 3rd - shouldn’t have sold the first, let alone the second). Decided I couldn’t quite live without one, and of course they’re no longer made.
The Kimber Hunter 270 can be found in the $850-$950 range and can be made lighter than the Montana.
Anyone new to hunting here in Montana, I tell them get a Tikka T3X in 270, and put a Burris 3-9 with dots on top in Talley Lwts. Add a Butler Creek Mountain Sling, and feed it Federal Blue Box 130’s. That’s the easy button.
It's too bad the 270 has been somewhat relegated down the popularity list as it's one of the best cartridges released in the last 100yrs.
Quit exaggerating - last 99 years
It's too bad the 270 has been somewhat relegated down the popularity list as it's one of the best cartridges released in the last 100yrs.
Quit exaggerating - last 99 years
I'm used to rounding up. ....... We don't have pennies in Canada anymore.
Kimber MT's and Model 70's on the used market.
That’s pretty much how I feel. I have Stainless M70 Fwt 270, and just picked up a used Kimber 84L MT 270 today (my 3rd - shouldn’t have sold the first, let alone the second). Decided I couldn’t quite live without one, and of course they’re no longer made.
The Kimber Hunter 270 can be found in the $850-$950 range and can be made lighter than the Montana.
Anyone new to hunting here in Montana, I tell them get a Tikka T3X in 270, and put a Burris 3-9 with dots on top in Talley Lwts. Add a Butler Creek Mountain Sling, and feed it Federal Blue Box 130’s. That’s the easy button.
I have looked a bit at the 270 MT's and while they are probably easier, I could be A-OK with a P64 or Classic Featherweight in a Bansner I think. Maybe not exactly Montana light, I am thinking it would be quite nice.
You're right about the Tikka though.. Easy as easy gets.
It's too bad the 270 has been somewhat relegated down the popularity list as it's one of the best cartridges released in the last 100yrs.
Quit exaggerating - last 99 years
I'm used to rounding up. ....... We don't have pennies in Canada anymore.
Ha!
Kimber MT's and Model 70's on the used market.
That’s pretty much how I feel. I have Stainless M70 Fwt 270, and just picked up a used Kimber 84L MT 270 today (my 3rd - shouldn’t have sold the first, let alone the second). Decided I couldn’t quite live without one, and of course they’re no longer made.
The Kimber Hunter 270 can be found in the $850-$950 range and can be made lighter than the Montana.
Anyone new to hunting here in Montana, I tell them get a Tikka T3X in 270, and put a Burris 3-9 with dots on top in Talley Lwts. Add a Butler Creek Mountain Sling, and feed it Federal Blue Box 130’s. That’s the easy button.
I have looked a bit at the 270 MT's and while they are probably easier, I could be A-OK with a P64 or Classic Featherweight in a Bansner I think. Maybe not exactly Montana light, I am thinking it would be quite nice.
You're right about the Tikka though.. Easy as easy gets.
Scotty, my SS Fwt will be going in a Bansner. I’m going with a blind magazine, Talley x-lows and a Leupold 6x36 with dots. It should come in around 7.25lbs all-up with sling and four rounds.
I’d be ecstatic for that rifle myself.
It's a shame there is not a .270 favorite loads sticky...new and old shooters alike could benefit from different combinations of components in these days of famine.
I'm down to two 270s: a Kimber MA and a Husqvarna 4100. I certainly don't need any more at my age but I can't stand to see a nice one slip by me.
It's a shame there is not a .270 favorite loads sticky...new and old shooters alike could benefit from different combinations of components in these days of famine.
I loaded the various 4831s for a half century but a few years ago, I tried RL16 [54 grs] and the 130 TTSX or 129 LRX with great results. I mentioned it to Handwerk and I think he is using it also.
Tikka in a stainless light weight. My t3 shoots sub 1 and it just gets it done. Nothing fancy about it so I’ve got the model70s but the tikka is less weight and handles adverse weather better than my wood stocks.
I'm down to two 270s: a Kimber MA and a Husqvarna 4100.
Kimber didn't make a Massachusetts, but they did make a Montana
I’d be ecstatic for that rifle myself.
I'm looking forward to finishing it.
It's a shame there is not a .270 favorite loads sticky...new and old shooters alike could benefit from different combinations of components in these days of famine.
I loaded the various 4831s for a half century but a few years ago, I tried RL16 [54 grs] and the 130 TTSX or 129 LRX with great results. I mentioned it to Handwerk and I think he is using it also.
Re 16 works very good with 150s as well. Mine likes 52 gr under an Accubond.
H4831SC is the only powder I ever used for 45 years.
24HCF did two surveys a couple years ago. "What rifle have you killed most game with?" and "What rifle have you killed the most elk with?" .30-06 and .270 were neck and neck in both surveys @ ~20% of the vote each. No other chambering had a double digit % vote count... Cumulatively, it was .270 and .30-06 versus ALL OTHERS... Not bad for two centenarian cartridges...
It's a shame there is not a .270 favorite loads sticky...new and old shooters alike could benefit from different combinations of components in these days of famine.
I loaded the various 4831s for a half century but a few years ago, I tried RL16 [54 grs] and the 130 TTSX or 129 LRX with great results. I mentioned it to Handwerk and I think he is using it also.
Re 16 works very good with 150s as well. Mine likes 52 gr under an Accubond.
Thanks for the tips guys, but RL16 is from Australia, ADI is that right? And I don't think any fell off the train going from Port of Los Angeles to where you live.
I have never seen it on the left coast.....Or maybe I just need to go to town more often.
I hate to think that I didn't buy it!
I still have it resting in a safe.
It's a beautiful rifle. That photo, by no means, does this rifle justice. It's in a class by itself.
I hope you all are having a great day.
I am in the market for a 270 Win. Trying to keep it under $1,000. I’ve looked at Howa, Weatherby Vanguard and Sauer and they were ok. The Bergara B14 fit me the best but the reviews have been iffy. The Browning Xbolt was also nice but over my price point. I have not had a chance to look at the CVA Cascade or the Mauser M18
If push came to shove today, the Vanguard and Sauer would lead the pack. Anything else out there I should be looking at?
Are you looking for new? I have a Winchester model 70, xtr featherweight I’d sell for under $1000. It has a what I believe is a Win-Lite stock on it. But I’m not positive. Beautiful rifle, carry’s well, shoots well.
Tzone
Just saw this and thank you. Thinking a slightly different direction and throwing a little more cash in the pot. I have a line on a couple of Sakos.
I am in the market for a 270 Win. Trying to keep it under $1,000. I’ve looked at Howa, Weatherby Vanguard and Sauer and they were ok. The Bergara B14 fit me the best but the reviews have been iffy. The Browning Xbolt was also nice but over my price point. I have not had a chance to look at the CVA Cascade or the Mauser M18
If push came to shove today, the Vanguard and Sauer would lead the pack. Anything else out there I should be looking at?
Are you looking for new? I have a Winchester model 70, xtr featherweight I’d sell for under $1000. It has a what I believe is a Win-Lite stock on it. But I’m not positive. Beautiful rifle, carry’s well, shoots well.
This
Tikka would be a great choice!
My first rifle was a pre 65 style Model 70 270win. Killed several elk and more than a dozen deer with it. RL 26 and hornady 145’s do really well.
In my opinion, the 280 Rem is equivalent to the 270 not better. It slows down, as you would expect with heavier than 150g bullets. I think you have to step up to a 7mm Rem Mag or a 300 Win Mag to make a significant jump in performance. I love my 270 Win I handload and get 3000 fps with 150g Partitions, never had an issue killing anything with it in the lower 48. I did just buy a BDL in 7mm Mag cause I gave my 270 to my youngest son ( he wanted it badly). I don't notice the recoil difference but that's probably because I shoot big bores as well. I plan to load 175g A-Frames and see if I can get close to 3000 fps with normal pressures.
In my opinion, the 280 Rem is equivalent to the 270 not better. It slows down, as you would expect with heavier than 150g bullets. I think you have to step up to a 7mm Rem Mag or a 300 Win Mag to make a significant jump in performance. I love my 270 Win I handload and get 3000 fps with 150g Partitions, never had an issue killing anything with it in the lower 48. I did just buy a BDL in 7mm Mag cause I gave my 270 to my youngest son ( he wanted it badly). I don't notice the recoil difference but that's probably because I shoot big bores as well. I plan to load 175g A-Frames and see if I can get close to 3000 fps with normal pressures.
I just looked over some data and I think I can get 2900-2950 from the 175 Swifts, Sierra's and Nosler in my Brownell with H1000 or similar. You saying that sorta motivates me to load up a few cases and see what the Garmin says. It's a 1-10 barrel on it, so the lead cored 175's are about as long as I can get to stabilize in the old rifle.
I think you have to step up to a 7mm Rem Mag or a 300 Win Mag to make a significant jump in performance.
Or more like a 375 H&H.
can't go wrong with a tikka!
Thanks all. Lots to think about but it is definitely going to be a 270 in some shape or form.
I have 2 270 Winchester rifles. Both pre 64 model 70's. However, I will be sending one to a forum member here. I only need 1 270, as I don't shoot these often. For shooting a lot, I prefer the 6.5 Creedmoor. I know JMR probably got a ration of schidt for suggesting the 6.5 CM over the infamous 270 win. I generally agree 100% with what he posts, but probably not this time. If I were looking for a straight up excellent hunting rifle, there would be nothing wrong with picking the 270 winchester. I'd pick that over the 6.5 Creedmoor. Keeping in mind we are talking "hunting" rifles. Also because my favorite thing to hunt is elk!! A 270 loaded with 150gr Nosler partitions can be hell on elk.
The only rifles I'd consider for this would be the Winchester model 70 and Tikka. Those being a pre 64 (fwt or std wt), XTR featherweight, or the Classic CRF. The Tikka would be a stainless T3x Lite. With those rifles you get reliability and excellent accuracy/precision. Both things I demand in a good hunting rifle. As a 3rd choice I'd probably pick a Ruger m77 mk2 or Hawkeye. However, those rifles are generally heavier, and accuracy can be had, but with a lot of work. They are also more clunky feeling than a good Winchester model 70. I would never suggest buying a cheap budget rifle, but if you ran across a Stevens 200 chambered in 270, I'd not scoff at that too much.
As for the rifle I'm sending to a new owner, I will miss that rifle, but it needs to get used. I have a feeling it's a "scary" accurate rifle, but have not even begun to wring it out. The new owner is going to love it. I'll hang on to my featherweight till the grave though..
Tikka would be a great choice!
My first rifle was a pre 65 style Model 70 270win. Killed several elk and more than a dozen deer with it. RL 26 and hornady 145’s do really well.
Pre 65?
Tzone
Just saw this and thank you. Thinking a slightly different direction and throwing a little more cash in the pot. I have a line on a couple of Sakos.
Hopefully you get a good one. Some had major ejection issues. Due to a design flaw. Just sayin.
Had a line on 2 L61R and an AIII. An R and the AIII have sold. Looking at the other Saturday
Talking about 270’s gets me all hot and bothered, and since someone mentioned butchered Pre-64’s, this one came to me in pretty bad shape from a family member. Supposedly wouldn’t shoot, and the stock was destroyed. Threw a new scope on it and it looked to be a shooter, so off to the stock maker it went for some love. Shoots most factory ammo under 1” and some stuff it really likes. This with the original factory barrel. If I were looking for another, it would be either another Pre-64 or an old Griffin and Howe. Then again, I’m nostolgic.
Talking about 270’s gets me all hot and bothered, and since someone mentioned butchered Pre-64’s, this one came to me in pretty bad shape from a family member. Supposedly wouldn’t shoot, and the stock was destroyed. Threw a new scope on it and it looked to be a shooter, so off to the stock maker it went for some love. Shoots most factory ammo under 1” and some stuff it really likes. This with the original factory barrel. If I were looking for another, it would be either another Pre-64 or an old Griffin and Howe. Then again, I’m nostolgic.
That's a beauty!! And the best part about it, it shoots like a pre 64 model 70.. I didn't see where anyone mentioned "butchered pre 64's" though.
The '56 FWT I am hanging on to shoots very well. The butt plate was removed, and someone put a recoil pad on it. The pad was old, so I upgraded it to a red pachmayr. It's also glass bedded. Since, at that point, it turns that stock into a "shooter", not a collector. This is the rifle that I said I'll hang on to for while. Even though I don't like the 270 winchester as much as I do other cartridges. Just how it is, when you grow up with a 30-06 in your hands.
I've only shot that factory Federal blue box ammo out of it, but it shows promise:
Testing new scope and new to me rifle that day, looked pretty promising. I don't think I've shot the rifle since.
With the std wt going to its new home, I may mess with the fwt a little. I'm thinking it's going to be a damn good shooter with proper handloads. Some younger guys don't know what these pre 64's can do, so we have to keep letting them know. Some of my favorite rifles, that are damn hard to beat..
Your right. I think it was another post about refinishing a shiny stocked rifle.
I have a 270 or two that I could let go. Both 700’s.
Talking about 270’s gets me all hot and bothered, and since someone mentioned butchered Pre-64’s, this one came to me in pretty bad shape from a family member. Supposedly wouldn’t shoot, and the stock was destroyed. Threw a new scope on it and it looked to be a shooter, so off to the stock maker it went for some love. Shoots most factory ammo under 1” and some stuff it really likes. This with the original factory barrel. If I were looking for another, it would be either another Pre-64 or an old Griffin and Howe. Then again, I’m nostolgic.
Hot n bothered 🥴 nice gun👍
If I was in the market for a 270 priced under $1,000, I'd look for a good used CLR.
For a regular production rifle, CLRs are light, well balanced, and accurate. The CLR didn't fail because they were bad rifles, they failed because Colt quit on them before they had been in the market long enough to achieve any sort of market penetration. A lot of people who were disappointed in the CLR seemed to think that they were buying a full ULA for 1/4 the price, when what they were actually getting is a rifle that is probably 4/5 ULA at 1/4 the price.
My 270 has been retired for a number of years now, as I've started using other cartridges. I don't hunt anything larger than whitetails, and chamberings like the 6.5 Creedmoor, the 243, and the 6.5 Grendel will do just fine. However......if I were selected to go on the "hunt of a lifetime" or told that I had to go kill a deer or else, with the "or else" covering whatever comes to the imagination, I'd have more faith in a 270 with a 130 grain Sierra soft point, loaded up with 60 grains of H-4831 than anything else I have ever used on deer for the past 60 years.
Older used Remington 700.
That is the big time easy button.
Easy to find. Affordably priced. Lots of aftermarket products. Never met a gunsmith that couldn’t work on one.
270 kills...
Friend Brad, those are two very nice animals. Your 270 did a great job bringing them home for some nice eating.
Wishing you all the best.
PS: I don't think a guy could go wrong with a 270 for a hunting rifle.
Take care.
Agreed Scotty! A 270 thread is incomplete without pictures
Thanks Hammerdown - wishing you and yours all the very best too my friend!
My $400 xtr🤪
270 kills...
Yes, it kills better than aids, but it's still gay.. BWAHHHAHAHA...
My $400 xtr🤪
I'll take it!! Does it come with the cheap Terra too?
My $400 xtr🤪
Can't go wrong on that one Brd! I never owned a 270 and at this point I doubt I will as I have a couple 7mm-08's and plenty of 30-06's so I'm not sure what a in between cartridge like a 270 would gain me, but it's a great round that has stood the test of time.
There's a xtr 270 on the classifieds in a boyd's laminate stock for $550 shipped. Can't believe it hasn't sold yet.
My $400 xtr🤪
I'll take it!! Does it come with the cheap Terra too?
Imma hang on to that one🤣
Pretty photo and a heck of a rub!
What state was that taken in?
Pretty photo and a heck of a rub!
What state was that taken in?
Virginia
My $400 xtr🤪
I'll take it!! Does it come with the cheap Terra too?
Imma hang on to that one🤣
Beautiful rifle. I don't blame you. Love the XTR's. Great snag on that one! The last one I bought was a 22-250. First year short action. After selling the scope, I think I have $475.00 into it, so you just about stole yours!!! Ha ha.
Pretty photo and a heck of a rub!
What state was that taken in?
Virginia
Ahh - makes sense. Such a beautiful state to live in.
Ranger 270 $350sh
I have a new Rem700 mountain rifle 270 sitting in the safe.
I haven't even shot it cause it's obsolete and prolly won't even kill a deer.....lol
My 280 mountain rifle carries the mail....and then some.
Actually I carried my 7-08 all year, it's light and handles well and that's what matters plus I was proving to my other buddies that a 120 BT pill is extremely deadly.
Coyotes don't take a step either.
Not that anyone cares...
The one Sako I looked at was a "family heirloom" but appeared to be more of a "family canoe paddle" with GunBroker pricing. Not sure that beat is even close to the correct term.
Visited a LGS yesterday that had 2 new M70 Featherweights (one in 270), 3 Super Grades, and 2 Alaskans. Those are the first M70s I have seen in years and the most I have seen in one spot. They also had a couple of Tikkas and new M700s. I'll admit that the M70s, although wasn't fond of the maple stocks on the Super Grade (personal preference), were very nice and it was refreshing to fondle something other than a Ruger American or Savage Axis or some other plastic rifle. Not sure I'm remotely prepared to pay the price for a new M70.
It had been a while since I have been to that shop and was surprised at the number of used rifles for sale. Prices were high.
The search will continue.
If you want wood what about tikka hunter in 270. I've seen them at eurooptics . The old T3 were cheap when on close out. I should have gotten one.
My son with the BDL in 270 I handed down to him with a large feral hog and his first elk. Still miss it but it was worth it
I am in the market for a 270 Win. Trying to keep it under $1,000. I’ve looked at Howa, Weatherby Vanguard and Sauer and they were ok. The Bergara B14 fit me the best but the reviews have been iffy. The Browning Xbolt was also nice but over my price point. I have not had a chance to look at the CVA Cascade or the Mauser M18
If push came to shove today, the Vanguard and Sauer would lead the pack. Anything else out there I should be looking at?
Get a 700 SPSS. I've been wrestling with accuracy with 6.5 Creedmoor (4 consecutive failures) and 6.5 PRC (3 consecutive failures) for about 5 years. By failure, I mean 1 to 1.25 MOA best accuracy. In old days that would have been great, I know. Late last summer I picked up a 700 SPSS in .243. The fire forming loads run about 3/4 MOA soundly besting all 7 6.5s and it's best load is well under half MOA.
No guarantees of course but .. well, lets just say I'm thinking about a .270 as a backup / spare / etc .. and it will be a 700 SPSS if I go forward.
Tom