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Posted By: CrimsonTide Cooper model 52? - 01/08/08
Is anyone shooting one of these? The money appears to be a tad more than the Kimber line, which would explain why I haven't seen one of them around here, but thought what with all the money lurking around on this board, somebody must be running one. I see they chamber it in .280, and from the pictures, it is a very attractive piece.
Posted By: cooperfan Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/08/08
I would not compare a Kimber with a Cooper. It don't get any better than Cooper for American made rifles.
Posted By: 7x57STEVE Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/08/08
Cooper's are somewhat more in cost, and far superior in accuracy, workmanship and value, than the Kimber.

The 52s are fairly heavy, which will discourage some, but are a great rifle for the money. In fact, I believe they are the best value for the money for any rifle.

Steve
Posted By: woofer Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
sweet! pard has one in 7-08. he opted for the heavier contour with fluting... i watched him shooting a ragged hole. one after the other. this is in a wood stocked hunting rifle. i think the groups were in the one's IIRC.. maybe two's..

cooper could charge twice as much for the guns they make. really..

if yo can afford one buy it. you wont be sorry..

woofer
Posted By: Mod7Nut Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
I have a 52 Jackson hunter, and like I have said before, its easily the most accurate gun I own. Its a tad heavy, but that dont bother me.
Posted By: OldCenterChurch Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Cooper repeater is no lightweight. I think they sound very appealing for varminting or anything off the bench. It's no Kimber Montana for light-carry hunting though.
Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
You're right.

It's not a Kimber Montana, but it's not much heavier than a M70 Sporter either.

I don't think anybody can guarantee 1/2" groups from a rifle like the Kimber Montana. Not even Cooper. I've noticed NULA doesn't even at 2-3X the price of a Montana.


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Posted By: OldCenterChurch Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Anecdotal at best, but there seems to be a lot of used Coopers on Gunbroker.
Posted By: tarheel74 Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
I have a m52 280rem and it shoots 0.5in for 5 shots easily with the swift scirroco an 130 gr speer boattail, and 140gr bt and also likes the partions as well, If one misses, it has to be the shooters fault, Most accurate outof box gun ever owned in a factory rifle
Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08

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Anecdotal at best, but there seems to be a lot of used Coopers on Gunbroker.


Really? I have been monitoring it continuously (I'm looking to buy a third one) and can only recall two that weren't NIB.

In fact if you want I can post links to all of the Cooper M52 auctions over the last several months. They are all still in my watch list.

I do believe the M52 is selling like hotcakes for Cooper though. Lots of people like me have been salivating over a Cooper repeater.

And I guess some turnover should be expected since their customer demographic is rifle looneys looking for the perfect rifle. Heck, I even sold one of mine already (new, unfired) because I decided I wanted a different caliber.



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Posted By: passport Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
I have been eyeing them over as well, I think there an awesome rifle, I thought they were only about 7 1/2 pounds bare, am I missing something? That is the perfect weight IMHO.
Posted By: Foxbat Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Originally Posted by OldCenterChurch
Anecdotal at best, but there seems to be a lot of used Coopers on Gunbroker.


Those are dealers. Cooper dealers sell a lot on Gunbroker and Gunsamerica since they tend to be small shops and Cooper doesn't really deal with the large stores or many dealers.

Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08

I think the Jackson Game, and Jackson Hunter models are probably 7-3/4 like their website says.

I also think maybe the Classic is a little lighter, but I haven't handled one.


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Posted By: Foxbat Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Originally Posted by WhelenAway
You're right.

It's not a Kimber Montana, but it's not much heavier than a M70 Sporter either.

I don't think anybody can guarantee 1/2" groups from a rifle like the Kimber Montana. Not even Cooper. I've noticed NULA doesn't even at 2-3X the price of a Montana.


Actually Cooper not only guarantees a 1/2", they ship every rifle with a test card proving it.

Never heard of Kimbers having a 1/2" guaranty. You have a link to that on their website?
Posted By: WhelenAway Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
No. You misunderstood me.

What I meant was that any manufacturer making a really lightweight rifle (like the Montana) would have trouble putting a 1/2" guarantee on it. Even NULA at 2-3X the price of a Kimber Montana doesn't guarantee accuracy.


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Posted By: Foxbat Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Originally Posted by WhelenAway
No. You misunderstood me.

What I meant was that any manufacturer making a really lightweight rifle (like the Montana) would have trouble putting a 1/2" guarantee on it. Even NULA at 2-3X the price of a Kimber Montana doesn't guarantee accuracy.


I got ya. Read it different. I wasn't sure whether to be shocked or impressed that something that light could do that.
Posted By: cooperfan Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Kimber of America better hope Cooper never produces a lightweight rifle.

Posted By: woofer Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
all those coopers you see are the reason you wait a year for your own. the big guys will order 50 or 100 for resale. you order one. easy math.....

i have pics of the three i listed but my card reader wont read them frown i also put the target for each with them. shot at 50 meters off a bench and rest (no fixed stuff) the hole in each target is just that. a hole. a round hole. there is NO grouping. it is a single hole smile and i cant get the friggin' pics up!!!!

buy one. really. if you think they are bit high now wait till someone buys cooper and doubles the price....

i would

woofer
Posted By: CrimsonTide Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
I would like to lay my grubby hands on one of them. Actually, two of them. I could do the rest of my shooting with a .223 and a .280. The poodle shooter could be a single shot for all I care, but I would want a repeater for the .280.

I did have a chance to handle a model 38 chambered in .22 Hornet yesterday, and the price was very good for a Cooper. I am twisting and turning, trying to figure a way to bring it home with me. (Just about to decide that I can live without a Stainless Tikka T3 Varmint in .22-250, as a partial....)
Posted By: DanInAlaska Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
I got to handle a couple of 52's last week at Scheel's in Eau Claire, WI. Both were chambered in .25-06, and both were really nice. One had fancier wood than the other, but there was still only $100 difference between the two. Prices were $1600 and $1700, IRRC.

That's about what I paid to get my .280AI screwed together, so I don't think the Cooper 52 is a bad deal at all.....and the Cooper will hold it's value MUCH better than mine.
Posted By: Huntz Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
One thing you need to know.Those targets shipped with the Rifle are shot at 50 yds, unless they have changed recently.I have two Cooper Varmint Rifles and they do shoot very good.I do lust for one of those 52`s!!!!!!!!
Posted By: CrimsonTide Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
You all are causing me to drool nearly uncontrollably.
Posted By: woofer Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
dump the tikka. you can always buy another..

woofer
Posted By: duckster Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/09/08
Just got back from the range about an hour ago. Used my new Cooper M52 Jackson Game rifle in .280 Rem for the first time. Results were very good. The trigger has a little more creep than my Sako M75 in .280.

Federal Powershok, 140 gr. Sierra spitzer flatbase - 0.45 for 4 shots

Federal Premium, 150 gr. Partiton - 0.9 for 4 shots, but 3 of those were less than 0.5 and then I pulled the next one slightly. Never should have looked at the group through the spotting scope!

Winchester Supreme, 140 gr. Ballistic Tip, - 0.6 for 4 shots.

By the way, my test target was for 3 shots and miked at 0.166!
Posted By: CrimsonTide Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/10/08
you people are trying to bankrupt me......
Posted By: duckster Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/10/08
While the Coopers are a fair amount more money than the Tikka, in my neck of the woods, they are only a couple hundred more than the Sako M85 on the shelves now. I appreciate the utility of stainless/synthetic, but love the look of walnut/blue.
Posted By: 30338 Re: Cooper model 52? - 01/11/08
Another point with Cooper. If you manage to burn a barrel up, they will rebarrel with a stainless barrel, match chamber, and skim bed for $400. Not a bad deal in my book and I plan on using it when my 22-250 goes belly up.
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