gents:

looking for pics of your 338-06s. any in a MRC setup would be great!

thanks!

top rifle....M1917 made by Remington

Unable to post photos but mine is a Weatherby SBGM. 24" tube, B&C Stock, tan with black webbing..Great gun and caliber.

Sort of a Faux Ti. M700 ADL\SS Douglas 23" #3\ Ti takeoff\ Micky Coleman smithed.

This is my 338-06





It has a #3 Shilen cut at 23"

Have a good day.

+1

Stevens 200
Talley Lightweights
McMillan Mtn Rifle stock
ER Shaw barrel at 22", bead blasted.













Shoots pretty good so far! Only tried 225 gr Hornady's so far.


Mike

Teeder needs to post his. It is SWEET!
RH

Savage 110 Laminate that I bought here in the classified ads and rebarreled with an ER Shaw "factor magnum contour" barrel trimmed to 22". I refinished the stock and treated the barrel w/ Gun Kote in brushed SS. Warne Maxima rings, Bushnell 3200 2-7x32mm w/ firefly reticle:





It was supposed to be a wintertime sanity project and little more, but turned out way better than expected:


200 gr Speer Hot Cor, 53 gr RL-15, once-fired/neck-sized R-P 270 WCF brass, CCI-200


215 gr SGK, 57.5 gr BLC-(2), once-fired/neck-sized R-P 270 WCF brass, CCI-250, 2683 fps

New Ultra Light Arms Model 28 with Stainless Barrel. Has taken elk, mule deer and lots of whitetails.

I've got to get me one of these. For the guys with the Stevens/Savage builds, any feeding problems or anything?



Thanks

Build In Process, Smith is "Redneck" from here on the forum...



If you'd like the blue print "PM" me with your e-mail addy and I'll send it to you.

Good luck!

My Savage 338-06 feeds just fine. Shoots real nice!

No pics for you but just a thought or two. Personally I really like the 338/06 and part of the reason is that you can build it in a sub 8 lb rifle and it is still very user friendly.

I prefer to not build one heavier than 8 lbs all up but that's just me.

Dober

Iffn you're much over 8, you might as well go Win mag.

mark,

can you give some for example specs to come out with a sub 8lb rifle using the MRC ss action?

Big time! My 338 WSM is now a bit over 8 all up and I wish to get a Edge for it to get it down to where it need be.

Dober

JS-not being real familar with the action and it's weight but I'll take a stab at it.

*McMillan with Edge fill
*Talley
*Uncle Mikes Mtn sling
*barrel would be of good make with 23", short shank and .6" at the mzl
*scope would be either a 6x36 Leo with dotz or the 2-7 Leo with dotz

This should get you sub 8 I'd guess.

How's that sound, you guys think it'd work?

Thx
Dober

Mine weighs in at 6lb 15 oz unloaded and is still very shootable with 210 partitions. I agree with Dober on the build specs getting you in at sub 8 lbs and probably 7-1/2 unloaded.

That's nice Chip, what's your build?

Thx
Dober

sorry mark but what is short shank

Barrel contour would certainly matter to both weight and balance. I am not sure that I would go .60" muzzle; that is only .131" wall thickness. I would feel better with .15" walls, so that would get me more to .65". I would go no longer than 22." The barrel weight program on Lilja's webiste is a big help in doing a weight projection. The MRC bottom metal is heavy, so if you were willing to go blind magazine, there is a significant savings there (net about 6 oz.).

I don't have any preferences re the EDGE for this build. It all comes down the balance, which I think is more important than hitting some pre-determined and arbitrary goal for overall weight.

I am a big 338-06 fan in a handy rifle, so am enthusiastic about the build. The MRC is just a tough place to start if light is the goal.

im with Mark on the sub 8 pounds....that 1917 is 9.5 ready to hunt.....love the rifle though as it fits me perfectly and balances like a dream in my hands......course you can also shoot the damn thing all day and not hurt after packing a Kimber 84M Montana in 260 for the last 2 years though i would really prefer a lighter package for the 338-06....

Rattler-turn that Enfield into a 416 Rigby, to my way of thinking that's the best round for that beasty of an action.

Then, build yourself a lightweight OKH. As for a Lil Sky .260, that's one rig that really perks my fancy! Your a lucky perro to have one of those.

Dober

EDGE stock, 23" sporter contour, talley's, and a VXII 3-9x40 should get you there...

actually been thinking of going to a 416 Taylor or Ruger for it to make use of the weight.....Rigby is a damn fine round but the other two are cheaper to feed brass and powder wise....have Taylor dies sitting on the shelf downstairs already.....would need to find someone to build me a duplicate stock though.....that ones fore end is to thin for a thicker barrel.....love that stock though.....need to find someone that could make one with a thicker fore end

Rattler,

I at one time carried a Taylor as my yote rifle, it did a darn fine job. It is one hella cool round and I'd endorse you doing that one in a hearbeat!

What's the barrel you have in the stock mic at the mzl now?

Thx
Dober

will have to check that tonight...had the thing built 5 or 6 years ago and dont remember the details off the top of my head.....

I know some of you guys really like super light rifles and that's great but it should be noted that with light rifles in medium bores comes recoil and here's how it plays out with some basic 338-06 figures so "JS" can make a decision on weight if recoil is a consideration;

Using Hornady Loading data, 225 gr. Interlock, 54.2 grs of RL-15 with a specified muzzle velocity of 2700 fps (stout, max load)

Rifle @:

7lbs = 30.76 ft/lbs recoil
7.5 lbs = 28.71 ft/lbs recoil
8 lbs = 26.92 ft/lbs recoil
8.5 lbs = 25.33 ft/lbs recoil
9 lbs = 23.92 ft/lbs recoil
9.5 lbs = 22.67 ft/lbs recoil

Using basic loading data and a basis gun weight of 8lbs here's how other chamberings stack up;

270 Win: 16.00 ft/lbs recoil
300 Win Mag: 24.93 ft/lbs recoil
.375 H&H Mag: 40.19 ft/lbs recoil

wouldnt go super light....wouldnt want a 7 pound ready to hunt one but 8-8.25 is nicer to pack than 9.5.....my Kimber is just under 7 ready to hunt with 4 down, scope and sling.....a pound heavier for the 338-06 sounds bout right to me and shouldnt kick yah an ungodly amount.....i dont particularly care for high amounts of recoil but even given your chart it would seem in bout the right area.....rather knock a pound off the rifle and carry an extra pound of water and cover more ground...

Recoil is something to consider no doubt and we all handle it differently. Barrel torque is another thing to consider.

4 me, a 338/06 just doesn't bounce around much. Maybe it's too many years of working with a 340 or 375 Wby. My first 340 went 8.25 lbs with a 3-10 Leo on it.

IMO if one can handle an 06 at sub 8 then one can handle a OKH sub 8.

Balance is a big thing for me and to have a 338/06 with a barrel of less than .6" is not something I'd wish for. But, in the .6-.625" range I am fine with it.

As well, I do not wish to have a stock that goes more than 28 0z on it. But then again that's just me.

A couple of last things, I do not consider sub 8 to be super light and I do not consider anything off an 06 case to be a medium. But dats just me...

Dober

personally the 375 doesn't bother me; would a 338-06 come with the same "shove" type recoild as the 375?

IMO it's kind of a mini me shove of the 375, really quite easy to deal with as long as the rifle is well configured.

I think my OKH weighs 7 lbs 13 oz and my wife who is petite handles it with no problemo.

Dober

I recall my 7.5# 338-06 as being briskish, but not brutal by any means.

With common factory style loadings in a 8lb gun;

The 338-06 has a recoil velocity of 13.98 fps compared to the sharper 18.12 fps of the .375 H&H and the .375 H&H has 16.5 ft/lbs more recoil.

So if the .375 H&H doesn't ring your bell too bad the .338-06 should be a cake walk.

Bottom line, it aint no bigga deal. If you can handle a sub eight 12 gauge you can handle a sub 8 OKH.

Dober

No feeding issues with mine, smith did have to shorten my mag box de to the stock used, it was rocking on it by being bottomed out.

Recoil is largely a fnction of stock choice, I chose a Mtn Rifle pattern with a slender little recoil pad and not a thick stock so recoil is felt but certainly not bad with the slow 2,300 fps loads I used for fully forming brass, haven't loaded any further yet.

Mike

My 338-06 comes in at 7lbs. 10oz. This works just fine. FYI

Have a good day.

Hammer-that OKH of yours is one of the nicer ones I've seen. Very cool rifle for sure.

Dober

No problems whatsoever with feeding... it was an amazing deal dollar-wise. Glass and all I don't have $700 into that rifle...

Huh? Please explain this statement. I don't follow.

Thanks Mark

Send me your address in a PM. I have something, I would like to send you.

Have a good day

Pm coming your way

Dober

It's good thing for you guys,I don't know how to post photos,the temporary Parker-Hale stock I put on,induces the gag reflex.And I toned it down. I do have good blank for it.

The latest Savages feature a center feed magazine,my SAs are slick.

Here's my pair of 338-06's.

Top one is a Rem 700, Pac-Nor 22" fluted barrel, McMillan Mt Rifle stock, Birdsong finish. Topped with a Leupy VXIII 2.5-8 in ultra low rings. Weight is 7.25# as it sits in the pic. The weight is about perfect IMO. Originally the barrel wasn't fluted, but I had it done to get the weight down. I really like this rifle, as it feels like an extension of me when hunting. Fit is perfect and points very naturally.

Bottom one is a Rem 7600. I replaced the factory Monte carlo synthetic stock with a B&C stock. The factory stock just didn't fit me, and was tough to use with the open sights. Weight is 8# even as it sits in pic. Topped with a Leupy M8 4x with a German #1 reticle. I replaced the front sight with a fiber optic. In the past I have removed the scope and rear sight and used a williams peep sight to play around with at the range.

Both shoot to the same POI with Hornady 200gr SP and Nosler 210gr Partitions. But my favorite load for the 700 is a 210gr Barnes TSX @ 2800+ fps.

I have G33/40 action in my safe and am thinking about building a nice wood/blue 338-06. I would try to get the exact same weight as the 700 or slightly lighter. But I don't know If I could hit the mark with a classic wood/blue build. Of course it would get topped with a Leupy 2.5-8. Then I would have a trifecta of 338-06's.

Mine is a
Rem 700 action
McMillan Stock regular fill(36 ozs)
Lilja #4 at .670" muzzle at 23" no flutes
Kahles 3-9x42 Helia Kx.

It weighs 8lbs 6ozs. Handles great and recoil is very manageable. Shoots 225 Accubinds at about 2675 into 1/2 inch. I have not killed anything with this gun yet. Waiting for the right moment.
Lee

Mine's the AI version of the 338-06.

Rem 700 S/S
22 3/4" Rock barrel, .650" muzzle
Edge Classic stock
2.5-8 with the B&C reticle
It'll go 7lbs 7 ozs if/when I put the Talleys on

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Aalf and Crs some nice looking rigs there!

I'd guess all up (sling and rounds) Aalf that rig of yours will be right at 8 lbs sling depending. IMO that's a very nice weight for a OKH.

Dober

Mark,

Factory rifle. Weatherby SBGM with leupold bases and rings. Leupold 3x9 compact. The scope may be changed to a VX2 in 3x9 which I guess would bring the gun a couple of ounces over 7lbs. Then I could go to Talley LW's and get back to 7lb.

As to recoil, I'm not big into recoil(especially the older I get) but must say the Weatherby stock design makes it very manageable especially off the bench.

Dober,

Imma thinkin' you're right close. I never checked it's fighting weight.

Agree, the package turned out about right.

Commercial Mauser action, picked it up about a year ago, still have not fired it, gotta get around to that!





Jason

I can't believe the 338-06 is marketed more! Could you imagine a 700 Ti, Browing X-Bolt, Browning BAR, Kimber LA in 338-06? I would go broke :-)

why would you be broke? i would just buy the Kimber and be done with it

Variety is the spice of life........ And I would most certainly need a 338-06 X-Bolt if it was avail.............

damn......think yah got the rifle loony bug worse than me......im plenty happy with just one 338-06.....course i also want a 9.3x62 and yes they are far enough apart to be different

Indeed. I love my Savage but the "magnum taper" barrel, even at only 22", is a beast. I must admit that I've had more than one thought on puttting together a light-weight, ultra-carriable rig on an Interarms Mark X with a Shilen #2 taper 24" barrel and Bansner stock...

Along with a 9.3x62 to match my 9.3x57 of course!

My Savage built 338-06 weighs in at 8.5 lbs. Used to be about 10lbs before I had the barrel re-contoured. Feels very nice now.

Here's mine.


I know, the only thing "rifle" about it is the cartridge.

Now that is a nice backpackin type of rig. Gotta be sort of a cheeky bastid without porting though?

338/06 right?

Thx
Dober

Nice rigs CRS! Did you rebore your 7600 or rebarrel it? They both have hunt written all over them.

Dober

Dober,

I had it rebored. Yeah, they are both made for hunting. The pump was built for my Dad to elk hunt with. He shoots left handed and has used a 760 Gamemaster in 270 Win for going on 40 years now. But I have had a lot of fun with it too.

I also agree with the marketing issue, Remington should have come out with the 338-06 instead of the Whelen IMO. They would have had the best of both worlds. The wonderful performance of the 338 cal and some competition to the 338 WM. It truly is a blue collar working man's type rifle.

A-Sqare and Weatherby just don't go with a 338-06. Those names make me think of big $$$, elitist, high society type hunting.

I have a couple 9.3's also, but they are 9.3x64 Brenneke's. Though the pair is not completed yet. Maybe 2010?

The 338-06's also pair up nicely with my stable of 270's.

Dober,
Yes, it's a 338-06. It will get your attention, but recoil isn't as bad as one might think. The barrel is a TC Custom Shop heavy contour. The grip is a Pachmayr Decelerator. I do wear good shooting gloves (full finger) as it will beat you up after awhile. Matter of fact, a friends wife shot it with no problems and she'd never shot anything larger than a .45ACP before this.

Come spring I'm gonna get some loads finalized using 200gr Accubonds, 210gr Scirocco IIs, and 225gr Hornady Interlocks.

I've got a .358 Win in Encore Pistol barrel. Mine is an MGM barrel at 14" with a brake. It will get your attention from the bench. I would think that your would be worse than that witout a brake! Wow, nice looking rig though.

Great pics guys !!

Mine was built in fall of 2008. It is a Sako m75 Greywolf 338-06 Ackley Improved that was a new 25-06. Removed the barrel and had my gunsmith build the caliber on a new PacNor supermatch grade stainless #5 barrel. Fluted, powdercoated gunmetal grey to match the Leupold VX3 scope. Powdercoated new style Sako Optilock Ringmounts, receiver, bolt handle and face plate of clip.









Shoots 225gr Accubonds and TTSX's groups of about 0.5" right now. Pic of ammo was with new Norma 338-06 brass with rounds to form-form brass to the Ackley. Overall weight is 9.62 lbs.Almost identical to what a factory Sako m75 Greywolf 7mmRM, 300WM or 338WM wolf weigh in with scope and rings.

Love the caliber. Now I just need to get my bull moose draw or find a nice 6x6+ bull elk to break it in on!!!

Now that Sako is nice. How much does it weigh?

Thanks for the complement. It weighs 9.62 lbs with scope as mentioned..forgot to say its a 24" barrel. Almost same weight with scope with factory Sako m75 Greywolf in a "V" action (7mmRM/300WM/338WM)

what are the barrel specs mightypeace on the sako?

The blank barrel was a new PacNor supermatch grade stainless #5 barrel bored, fluted and cut to 24" by my gunsmith. 1-10" twist rate-sporter contour. With the flutes, brings the weight down almost to a #4. Weighs almost the same a factory Sako m75 Greywolf "V" action rifle. Shoots like a dream.

Still have the new factory 25-06 barrel that the rifle was originally-may keep it now for a rifle for one of my son's when they get older.

Took me just over 2 years to find the Sako m75 Greywolf rifle to make it work - "IV" action). I originally found a mint 30-06 but the retailer wanted too much for it. Tried several offers. Finally found another retailer with a new one...got it for less than the used one!!

Thinking of doing another Sako m75 Greywolf - 330 Dakota - just to be different.
Wouldnt mind finding a 270WSM m75 Greywolf also or a SS one and put a Macmillan stock on it I have picked out.

how many folks are using the 338-06 up your way mighty?

There is a few I have read on other forums, but none where I live that I know of. Alot of guys in B.C. for sure love the caliber for elk, moose and bears. I just did it for something different as the caliber interested me and I wanted to do a wildcat based on a Sako m75 Greywolf. My reloading buddy wants to do one also, I just built mine first. He is going to build his on a model 70 Winchetser.

Very mild recoil. My Tikka T3 LS 270WSM has more felt recoil with 140gr Accubonds than the 338-06AI with 225gr Accubonds.

Mainly used my Sako m75ss 300WM with 180gr Accubonds but the 270WSM has really impressed me. Mostly did the 338-06 to shoot 225gr bullets.

i just posted in the wildcat section and i'll ask here: where do you get reloading dies for the 338-06?

JS,
Lee, Hornady, RCBS and Redding sell dies for the 338/06. They can be found on Midway USA and I'm sure other places.

Yup, what he said...

Midway

My gunsmith brought them in - Redding 338-06 Ackley Improved.

Mine is a Weatherby but I'm no elitist, just an average guy who found a great deal on the rifle and very happy I did. I would have thought that when Weatherby went factory on it, one of the big 3 would have followed suit. I thought at the time 7-8 yrs ago Remington actually announced a 700 that was to be chambered in 338-06 but never was produced. The market is not huge but I believe there is enough interest to sell some guns. The only one I know of now is the Cooper at $1800+.

I bought originally to be different knowing it would be a handload only option. The RCBS dies and 30-06 cases work very well.

ChipM,

If I had not already built my 338-06's before the Weatherby came out, that is what I would own.

My whole life, I have always associated Weatherby with the higher social status and A-square for the guys that can afford to go to Africa. I don't know if the Art Alphin name helped much either.

It is not meant to be derogatory in any way, just my perception and the marketing that has occurred. This is coming from a rural modest upbringing.

I think had one of the big three brought it out, the 338-06 would be enjoying more success.

crs,

can you share any experiences on game with the round?

CRS,

I understand and none taken. I also agree and fortunate I own 3 Weatherbys now that I did not pay retail for, just an avg guy who got lucky and shops for good deals. If one of the big 3 released it, I would have probably owned on produced by them. I also agree that I believe the 338-06 would have been more successful.