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Posted By: Dogger Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Pardon my ignorance, but how does one go about building a Faux Ti? I don't have a clue where to start, other than I believe I start with an M700. Thanks in advance.
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Yep, SUCKS action, MR contour tube, Ti take off (or new) stock, then you can have the shifter hollowed out and spiral flute the bolt.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
My ignorance is relatively deep on the subject, but I just acquired a Ti take-off stock and stuck a regular Rem. 700 in it...about as Faux as you can get! grin
Nary a hint of titanium anywhere! wink

Ingwe
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Krapp! forgot about spiral fluting the bolt..... blush

Ingwe
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by ingwe
Krapp! forgot about spiral fluting the bolt..... blush


That means you Faux'ed it Up...
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
I Sho' did Maux Faux! grin

Ingwe
Posted By: Oregonmuley Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
LSS Mtn rifle in caliber of choice + Ti take off + Kampfeld fluted bolt = Faux Ti. Or try and find a used Gander Mtn Guide rifle and just flute and your 99% there.
Posted By: Brett_Mc Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
pardon my ignorance... what's a ti take off? is it a stock that came off of a ti or can you buy one from somewhere and that's just the name of them?

thanks

Brett (Mac)
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
A take off stock from a Ti and yes you can purchase them also. They are a Bell & Carlson stock.
Posted By: Brett_Mc Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
thanks appreciate it.

Brett (Mac)
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Pic of quasi-Faux-Ti.....


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Ingwe
Posted By: pahick Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by ingwe
Pic of quasi-Faux-Ti.....

Ingwe


The more I see that the more I like the straight black stocks over the ones with web. But I could go for both.
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by ingwe
Pic of quasi-Faux-Ti.....


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Ingwe


Faux'kin A... good looking rifle.

Bedding a LA Ti stock as we speak... stainless .25-06 will ride it for a while.
Posted By: Chrome Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Ingwe,

Who makes those rings ?
Posted By: Sprint11 Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
I beleive they are Remington faux Talleys. It's a faux-up all right..
Posted By: Nrut Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by Sprint11
I beleive they are Remington faux Talleys. It's a faux-up all right..

And they are better looking than the Talleys.. smile
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Good looking rig for a faux shooter.
Posted By: Lawdwaz Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Looks like a gash maker mount job on the scope?? <grin>
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by Sprint11
I beleive they are Remington faux Talleys. It's a faux-up all right..


Those are Remmy Faux Talleys...they are the best in the WORLD.... grin


After that last crack, I'm putting Steelie on Ignore..until 10;15 am..

Thatll show him.....

Ingwe
Posted By: wes7x57 Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Link to new a new Ti

http://www.stockysstocks.com/servlet/the-190/700-alaskan-ti-wildermess/Detail
Posted By: raybass Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Sharp eye chrome, I like those rings! Not really a faux ti but I'm gonna see how a CDL Whelen does in a first gen. ti stock, should be lively....
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10


Well . . . sorta. I believe that the desired model for a Faux Ti is the Mountain Rifle stock (2950 series). At least that's what I used on my first Faux Ti .280
Posted By: Dogger Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Wow, great info!! And just in time for Christmas!!!
Posted By: fish head Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by ingwe
Pic of quasi-Faux-Ti.....


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Ingwe


Ingwe,

That really is a nice rifle. The more I see it, the more I like it.

Good job on putting it together!
Posted By: sactoller Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by ingwe
Pic of quasi-Faux-Ti.....


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Ingwe


Nice looking Mo-faux!
Posted By: Dogshooter Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by raybass
I'm gonna see how a CDL Whelen does in a first gen. ti stock, should be lively....


Faux Shaux... Bet that rifle'll buck a bit.
Posted By: Kimber7man Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
My Faux Ti came that way from the factory - Rem 700 Mountain Guide special edition run for Gander Mountain.


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It'll do this with the Campfire load of 44.0 RL15 and the 120 TSX...

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Posted By: Stoneybroke Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
I have the Whelen in a first generation TI stock with Talley lightweights and Leupold 2.5-8x36. It is a "bit of a hanfull", but will shoot into an inch if I do my part. Lead sled is nice for load work up!
Posted By: Oregonmuley Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
I've posted this one before - also started as a Gander Mtn Guide rifle, now a faux 243. Shoots 95 grain Fusion ammo in nice lttle groups. I like it a lot.

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Posted By: SuperCub Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Mine is a long action 257 Roberts .....

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It shoots too.

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Posted By: SuperCub Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Next one (in the works) will be a 223 or 223AI.


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Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Originally Posted by SuperCub
Next one (in the works) will be a 223 or 223AI.


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See my previous post w/pic... wink grin


Great minds....


Ingwe
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
I'm thinking Cub has sense enough to go with a 1-8" twist, unlike some others I know but won't mention by name.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
See my post on lost pack thread..... whistle

Ingwe
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
See my post in the Lost Pack Thread.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
Blow me..


Ingwe
Posted By: Steelhead Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
What........
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/06/10
grin


Ingwe
Posted By: 444Matt Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Love the Faux Ti. Mine's just a take off with X Mark trigger and a standard '06 action and barrel bedded with a FXII6x36 in talley lightweights. Great feeling/carrying rifle.

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These Ti stocks are so much better than the standard synthetic factory stocks i'm used to.
Posted By: WiFowler Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Ti over tupperware anyday.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
+1...the guys on the 'fire turned me on to Ti...


thanks for that! grin

ingwe
Posted By: Bluedreaux Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
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I believe bonus points are awarded for color and an 8 twist.....
Posted By: SuperCub Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Originally Posted by Steelhead
I'm thinking Cub has sense enough to go with a 1-8" twist, unlike some others I know but won't mention by name.

Gonna be 1:9". Just shootin deer bullets.


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Posted By: Dogger Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Jiminy Christmas! I have a M700 CDL 280 Remington with 24 inch tube... the stock is too pretty to bang up in the woods (altho I already have), and I just feel the need to swap out that stock for something lighter and more durable... The rifle is currently sporting a Zeiss Conquest 3x9x40 in talley ltwt rings... comes a little under 8 lbs at the moment, with sling... So... I need to sort out the stock as the first order of bidness... I guess just do a websearch on the Bell and Carlson website? Or keep an eye on the classifieds? thanks
Posted By: Ramblin_Razorback Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Dogger,

Don't feel like you have to flute the bolt or hollow the bolt handle for a faux Ti build - that's not going to save you much weight, and IMHO if you are going to spend the money to flute the bolt and hollow the bolt handle, you might as well save a little more money and buy a used Ti to have an even lighter rifle.

I think the reason Remington chose to flute the bolt on the Titanium was more to reduce surface area so the bolt was easier to move (a little smoother working) than to reduce weight. In my experience, the Remington stainless or chrome-moly actions are smoother than the Titanium actions.


Posted By: Ramblin_Razorback Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Dogger,

From what I've read, I expect that you would have to open up the barrel channel of a Ti stock for it to fit on a CDL barreled action because the Ti stocks are made for the mountain rifle contour barrel. You might keep an eye on the Classifieds for one that someone had already opened up for a sporter-weight barrel.
Posted By: BCSteve Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Here's mine. A .260Rem Mountain rifle in a Ti take off with Talleys and Leupold VXII 2-7x33.

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Posted By: Dogger Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
Do the Bell and Carlson stocks #2461-22 and #2462-22 pass the Campfire cut for such a Faux Ti?
Posted By: Dogger Re: Faux Ti - 11/07/10
I just weighed by M700 CDL 280 with Zeiss 3-9x40 (without ammo and sling) and it is 7lb 14oz. The Ruger M77 300RSAUM w/ Vortex Viper 3-9x40 tips the scales at 8lb 7oz. There has to be an inexpensive way to "faux" these hogs to push down the weight. Gad.
Posted By: Dogger Re: Faux Ti - 11/08/10
Dang! Like a fart in church I must have killed the discussion!!
Posted By: MagMarc Re: Faux Ti - 11/09/10
Mines in a 2951 whistle
Posted By: Duc1198 Re: Faux Ti - 11/09/10
Here is mine. Ditched the SPS stock for an Alaskan from Stocky's. Next the bolt goes off to Kampfeld, have someone bed it, call it good.

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Posted By: firearms44 Re: Faux Ti - 11/09/10
OK Guys,

Answer me this, why has everybody gone too mix & not match ? You've got a stainless rifle with black bases/rings with a black scope. What's the deal ?? It's 4:55 AM and I'm not thinking straight. First cup of coffee.
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30-06 Mountain Rifle 22" Barrel.

Ken
Posted By: bcp Re: Faux Ti - 11/09/10
Deer don't see the black scope as well. They think the rifle is open sighted so they aren't as wary. smile

Bruce
Posted By: ingwe Re: Faux Ti - 11/09/10
Exactamundo...


Thought everyone knew that.....sheesh...


grin
Ingwe
Posted By: Duc1198 Re: Faux Ti - 11/09/10
Cause I think the matte scope/rings/stock match up well and look good and have yet to see a stainless barrel/rings/scope match up at all. Always, from what I've seen, different shades and doesn't look right. Just me though...

Originally Posted by firearms44
OK Guys,

Answer me this, why has everybody gone too mix & not match ? You've got a stainless rifle with black bases/rings with a black scope. What's the deal ?? It's 4:55 AM and I'm not thinking straight. First cup of coffee.
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30-06 Mountain Rifle 22" Barrel.

Ken
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