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Posted By: JMort 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
So we are having a discussion at work and I need an answer.

How long is the typical barrel life of 300 RUM

I am saying over 1000 shots

The guy here is saying less than 250....
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Depends upon how you drive it and what you are driving through it and what your needs are.

Most will never knock the new outta one...............
Posted By: JMort Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Ok, he has a 700 sendero that he claims lost accuracy out of after a few boxes, has a different scope and mounts on it but still can't get it to shoot 180 partitions at like 3000, pretty tame load I think, Never shot a Ultra before.
Posted By: Bater Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
quite tame...might be part of the prob
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Originally Posted by JMort
Ok, he has a 700 sendero that he claims lost accuracy out of after a few boxes, has a different scope and mounts on it but still can't get it to shoot 180 partitions at like 3000, pretty tame load I think, Never shot a Ultra before.


Accuracy puking,can be induced by a host of variables after a few boxes,none of which is the barrel being shot out.

Sendero's jump around horribly in their stocks(pull it apart and look at the skid marks on the receiver's underside),the Ultra bumps enough to tax scope/base/rings and the shooter. NPT's are soft and will foul wonderously.

The rifle never had a chance to shine...which is of course very typical.............

Posted By: JMort Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
So it would be wise to offer him 50 bucks for it and build it up again? JK. I will let him know I tried to him to shoot some 208 amaxes loaded hot in it. I will see if I can get him to change the stocks or have it bedded.

Posted By: MontanaMarine Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Originally Posted by JMort
...The guy here is saying less than 250....


More likely the rifle wore him out in less than 250 rounds....grin
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Originally Posted by JMort
So it would be wise to offer him 50 bucks for it and build it up again? JK. I will let him know I tried to him to shoot some 208 amaxes loaded hot in it. I will see if I can get him to change the stocks or have it bedded.



If you've a desire for a 300 Ultra tube that hasn't had the new knocked offa it,you would be in tall cotton...................
Posted By: JMort Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
I am not I just called the dealer about an accumark 300 wby for 500 his wife is having him call me back....

He is going to send it out and have a custom made out of it, he is afraid of the 300 I think so whats he ask the guy about, a 338-378 HAHA... More money then brains....

Oh yeah this is the same guy who last week had 340 wby barrel on his encore thought it kicked to much so he took it to the drill press and tried to port it.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
The loose nut behind the trigger,is 99% of all "issues".................
Posted By: KodiakHntr Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Originally Posted by JMort

Oh yeah this is the same guy who last week had 340 wby barrel on his encore thought it kicked to much so he took it to the drill press and tried to port it.


Wow....Now that is impressive.

For what its worth, I'm into my 300RUM for over 1400 rounds now, and it is still reliably punching sub MOA......Although, I haven't leaned on it really hard.
Posted By: Oldquailhunter Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
My Sako 300 Rum has been shot 750 times or so. The accuracy has went from a true .5 rifle to about 1 inch maybe a little more. The throat has grown .070 inch. I shoot it full throttle all the time. It averages 3347 fps with 180 grain partition with this lot of RL25.

Dink
Posted By: KodiakHntr Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Interesting.

Mine will still fling 168gr TSX's (moly'd) into 0.3's-0.5's (if I'm on my game and haven't had too much coffee) at around 3450 and change....using R22.

It doesn't do as well with the 130's, but it does do reasonably well with the 168SMK, the 168 amax (just started with that bullet now), and the 180TSX (again, shoots 'em into knots....) I'm hoping to get 2400 or so rounds out of it, before it needs a new tube.

Mind you, I haven't looked down the pipe for a while, so maybe its closer to pooched than I think.
Posted By: KodiakHntr Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Of course, its gonna be a while before I get there with that one now, since I've started playing with the 162 amax in my 7wsm....

Posted By: MontanaMarine Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/09/10
Originally Posted by JMort
...Oh yeah this is the same guy who last week had 340 wby barrel on his encore thought it kicked to much so he took it to the drill press and tried to port it.


That's funny.

The dots connect.
Posted By: gmsemel Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Sounds like he would be better served with a 308 or 30-06. I shot 300 Weatherby for a number of years in the 1970's for some reason I thought I needed more that what I was getting out of a 7mm Remington Mag at the time. Seems to me that the 300 Weatherby was just about the upper limit of what I wanted to shoot at that time. It seems to me that cartridges like the 300 RUM the the like are getting to be to much of a good thing. I played with a 330 dakota for a time, I ended up going back to the 338 Winnie I shot, these days I shoot a 7mm Remington Mag again because that was the barrel on the Blaser I bought. So I came back to what I had after chasing the dragon for 38 years. Barrel life is subjective, At what point will it not be accurate enough to kill an elk, more that I would want to shoot one. You might be looking at 2500 to 3000 shots, maybe a tad less. More barrels are worn out from improper cleaning than from shooting. I never saw the reason for the RUM's, some of the Dakota Cartridges made some sense, but at 2 bucks a case, cases last a very long time, I know from the 330 I had. It don't really make a whole lot of sense, other than you just want one. I know a fellow that shoots a 30-378 for his deer hunting near were I live, every time he shoot it this time of year I hear it, its loud very loud. Seems to me a little much for 100 lb white tails and 40 yard shots. He likes it. Next year, I am going 250-3000, or a 30-30.
Posted By: Fotis Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
My buds 700 LSS (sporter weight) lasted for 1500. He practiced all the time out to 1k+. He was not gentle with it.
Posted By: Jamie Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
The 700 BDL I bought a few years ago as a donar has over 2000 through it and it still shoots great. After doing the stupid "shooting the donar"I was planning on shooting this barrel out and rebarreling it to a RUM again but it's lasted long enough for me to loose intrest in the rifle and move on to another project.
Posted By: BWalker Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
My 300 ultra puked a Mike Rock tube at about 1250 rounds.
I am of the opinion that they make barrels everyday and I run them hard.
Posted By: Daniel_Boone Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Well - I read your post and the only good thing about the post was that the Ultra Mag only came on high end rifles.
The minus side is that Remingtons fit and finish has gone down the crapper the last couple of years.
The only sad part of it all is that most people do not understand the value of good optic's, so without a through inspection - there is no way for sure to know what the problem is.
There is no way to diagnose his problem over the internet.
I would say that there is either a issue with the scope or the action fit and the stock.
I only hunt whitetail deer - so there is no reason for me to want something that powerful. But a friend of mine has one and we have done some experiments and have found that it is a fairly accurate rifle, just that it has so much recoil that it probably has the guy scared out of his pants to shoot it and he is probably flinching.
The best thing he could do is get rid of it and buy something a little less powerful such as a 300 Winchester Magnum.
The 300 RUM is not for everyone.
Posted By: safariman Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Originally Posted by BWalker
My 300 ultra puked a Mike Rock tube at about 1250 rounds.
I am of the opinion that they make barrels everyday and I run them hard.


Well said, my sentiments exactly. My model 70 300RUM killed a bunch of stuff including truckloads of bait animals for Leopard hunters in Africa and was still shooting well when I sold it with a round count in the 1500 range. Barrel gets REAL hot after only 3 rounds and I sold mine not because of barrel wear or recoil but because of its noise level. No, no muzzle brake (HATE 'em) just a really noisy round in my opinion. Great killer for sure, though.
Posted By: blagg Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Built one a while back for a customer that punched paper with VLD'S, it made it about 900 rounds! It will now become a 300WSM with a throat for 210's.
Posted By: safariman Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Blagg, whereabouts in Eastern Oregon are you? Always looking for a good gunsmith out in these parts.
Posted By: aalf Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
I ran a Sendero in the 1K stock class for a coupla years.

Mine didn't see 400 before I was an also ran.....
Posted By: EddyBo Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Originally Posted by Big Stick
Originally Posted by JMort
Ok, he has a 700 sendero that he claims lost accuracy out of after a few boxes, has a different scope and mounts on it but still can't get it to shoot 180 partitions at like 3000, pretty tame load I think, Never shot a Ultra before.


Accuracy puking,can be induced by a host of variables after a few boxes,none of which is the barrel being shot out.

Sendero's jump around horribly in their stocks(pull it apart and look at the skid marks on the receiver's underside),the Ultra bumps enough to tax scope/base/rings and the shooter. NPT's are soft and will foul wonderously.

The rifle never had a chance to shine...which is of course very typical.............



Now that I have read a few of his posts, most make sense, gotta agree with him. A 30-378 WBY will last longer than a few boxes. My last 300 RUM...and I mean the last I will own was still belching 210s into bug holes after 800+ rounds.
Posted By: JMort Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Ok yeah well, he isn't at the range with me this morning but I will let him know to just trade the gun and go to something lighter recoiling
Posted By: EddyBo Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Ask him if he is interested in any trades I need a RUM donor action
Posted By: JMort Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
I will won't see him until monday but I will then
Posted By: blagg Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/10/10
Safariman I am in Pendleton. 541 377-0092
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
Originally Posted by Jamie
The 700 BDL I bought a few years ago as a donar has over 2000 through it and it still shoots great. After doing the stupid "shooting the donar"I was planning on shooting this barrel out and rebarreling it to a RUM again but it's lasted long enough for me to loose intrest in the rifle and move on to another project.


Another RUM or are you looking elsewhere?................
Posted By: Jamie Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
I found the .257 wby.and have been having a blast with it.

Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
You're learnin'....................(grin)
Posted By: glazer1972 Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
I'd never be able to shoot one out.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
You wouldn't be missing much.

Pun be intended................
Posted By: keith Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
The 300 RUM shines with the 180's at 3350 in a Stainless Sendero.

Sticks advise on the action jumping around is spot on.

I bed the action, float the magazine box, heavily deburr the mag box and the inside corners of the floor plate that accepts the mag box.

I torque the screws to 80 inch pounds in the front and 60 in the rear, and they will get loose, eventually.

I shoot a Vias muzzle break and always wear electronic ear muffs at the range and in the field. Even with a Vias muzzle break, recoil is substantial enough to move the scope in the rings.

Sub 3/4" groups at 100 are normal with my rifle, and it wears a 4-16 on it.

Even with a Vias muzzle break, this gun is still no fun to shoot, you really have watch your bench technique on how much you grip the gun and how much you pull the rifle into your shoulder, etc to get small groups.

Most people will develop a flinch or a tendency to "slap" the trigger, raise their head up of the stock anticipating recoil, or jerk their entire body in anticipation of recoil of this cartridge.

I shoot the 7 Mag with 162 A-Max at 3100 with a Vias muzzle break(recoil of a light loaded 243) much better than I do the 300 RUM..all due to the amount of recoil.

I think that a guy should have a serious reason for shooting a cartridge of this intensity, like brown bears.



Posted By: FC363 Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
Originally Posted by JMort
I am not I just called the dealer about an accumark 300 wby for 500 his wife is having him call me back....

He is going to send it out and have a custom made out of it, he is afraid of the 300 I think so whats he ask the guy about, a 338-378 HAHA... More money then brains....

Oh yeah this is the same guy who last week had 340 wby barrel on his encore thought it kicked to much so he took it to the drill press and tried to port it.


Forget it. You can't help this guy JMort.
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
The 162 at 3150,smokes the 180 at 3350.................
Posted By: RDFinn Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
Yea, but under the awning the RUM is louder...
Posted By: Big Stick Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
Barrel is longer too,action is longer,there's less COAL latitude to dabble BC,they're heavier,burn more powder,kick harder,are more expensive to feed and won't Agg as well.

A whole multitude of braggin' rights inherent................(grin)
Posted By: Klikitarik Re: 300 RUM barrel life - 12/11/10
Originally Posted by JMort
So we are having a discussion at work and I need an answer.

How long is the typical barrel life of 300 RUM

I am saying over 1000 shots

The guy here is saying less than 250....


That's 'cause he insists on shooting all his bullets while his shoulder is still numb, before it starts twitching. wink
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