What is the deal with Steyr rifles? They are not spoken of much here. They any good???
I have one, a Steyr Mannlicher SSG 69 PII in 308 Winchester, It is an excellent rifle and the most accurate rifle I own. With Federal GGM ammo it will put 5 bullets into way less than .500" at 100 yards.
Excellent rifles but I believe they have failed to gain much popularity in the US based on the style and looks of the rifle. I like the one I have, it is very accurate.
My Steyr Scout will produce a ragged hole at a 100yd, off of the bipod. It is the most ergonomic rifle I've ever used. It will never be for sale.
i never had one either guess they seem like a lot if $$ for a lets say "different" looking rifle for me have heard they are really great shooters though ?
They are excellent rifles, but Steyr-Mannlicher can't market their products well at all. Also their ownership has changed over the years and that has not helped. I have a .308 Win rifle from them that shoots very well...jim
I have a Steyr Pro Hunter in 7mm Rem Mag and a Steyr Luxus in 7mm-08.
The Pro Hunter is a lovely gun to carry, simple and functional and has a great trigger.
The luxus is a nice rifle. I have only had mine since august. I bought it cheap at my local gun shop. They had a "Steyr" night where the international marketing manager Gundaccar Wurmbrand came out and gave a presentation. I am currently working up some loads for it.
Give a pro hunter a try. The stock design is a little different to what most are used to, but its very comfortable. And did I mention the trigger? very easy to fall in love with.
One thing is for sure, they shoot well.
The US sales people seem to be a bit unhelpful and aloof marketers. I have had to go to the Europeans directly and get them to encourage the US importers to reply to questions, for both their guns and the other European brands they market.
Even when I am attempting to buy something or get a recommendation on where to buy or see guns and gear, they often don't reply. If a trend, this isn't helping them generate a market.
Had a Scout, but it was one of the few guns that I couldn't stand the pounding it gave me and traded it. Quality was very good though. I would buy another Steyr in the future.
so good i bought another just in case!
The SBS Mountain version are being sold for $599 in my area, pretty compelling value. Though I would have hoped a 20" barrel version would be a little lighter than 7.3 lbs.
Their US representative is the only thing that has changed more times than the ownership!
jim
I have one in 376 Steyr & like it a lot. Very accurate & a good caliber for med-large big game animals. I would use my 416 Rigby on DG, but the 376 has worked well on zebra & eland. As stated, the change in ownership & distribution has seriously effected sales in the US.
tbear, wha tmodel do you have in .376 steyr?
Thanks,
B8
I got to handle / work the action once. Called a local dealer, who was very helpful and claimed "they were the most accurate rifle from a mainstream manufacture today". When I heard the $2500 price tag, I thanked him for his time. For some of us $2500 for a rifle you want is a deal. For others, its just not in our budget.
If I had the money and every other rifle on my "I can't afford this" list, I might get one. I'd have to shoot it first. Really smooth action.
I had a Pro Hunter in 308 briefly. I liked a lot about the rifle and it was one of the most accurate rifles I've ever owned. But the negatives outweighted the positives for me and I sold mine.
For a 20" barreled carbine it was quite heavy. Magazines are pricey and hard to find. The shape of the bolt handle required mounting the scope a lot higher than I liked.
If those issues do not bother you it will be hard to find a more accurate rifle for the money.
Been shooting a Model M Professional in 7 x 57 since I bought it in 1976! They are a little funky looking but they shoot well.
The current models use the Safe Bolt System (SBS) action that was introduced in '96. I bought my first SBS rifle in '98. My current favorite is the Mannlicher Ultra Light. Here is a factory picture.
It can give my NULA a run...jim
Down to one. It's an old model Luxus fullstock carbine in .270. It doesn't get hunted as much as it did but will be one of the last to go. It's one of the most accurate hunting rifles I've ever owned.
A friend bought a flawless Steyr Mannlicher here in Oklahoma at a garage sale last year for 200.00 dollars. It's a .308. I nearly cried it's so nice. Locals I hunted with in Germany used Steyrs in smaller calibers very effectively. Wish I had one.
Those are sweet rifles. Dibs on both.
I have a 30-06 Forester. All my other rifles are aftermarket barreled semi-customs with Hart, Brux, Pac-Nor, Douglas and Lothar Walther barrels but the Steyr shoots right in there with them with no work done to it at all....not even action bedding
If I had to recommend one rifle to someone as the rifle to have the best chance to be accurate right out of the box, it would be Steyr.
Have 3 of them - 2 in 7x57 (Luxus and Professional) and a 30.06 Professional Mk3 - Steyr's plastic stocked matt finish sort of beater rifle.
Older models were the SL, L , M , S (lightweight, light, medium and large(er) actions) and the military/police SSG versions-longer actions and heavy barrels. These have multiple bolt lugs at the back of the action.
Newer models are the SBS (safe bolt action) ProHunters with the tang rotary safety. All have hammer forged barrels with the spiral hammer marks left as a sort of trademark. Bolt lockup is at front of these.
I think the Euro market will buy more expensive rifles so Steyr has their core buyers there. The USA is a smaller market so shops don't usually carry many unless they specialize along with the price tag.
I have found the USA importers parts and smith very accomodating and real enthusiasts.
I feel the ProHunters are a little heavy for .308 and lighter calibers though the weight makes them shoot great even offhand. Steyr has there own lightweight versions, Gunbroker always has a few for sale.
I suppose the attraction is the pride of ownership of a firearm you don't see often along with nice workmanship...and mine shoot great!
I have a pro hunter in 25-06. Its a great shooter and like others have said the trigger is pretty nice as well. The stock has a funky look to it, but it feels great when you pull it up. The only thing I don't like; is that it is a bit heavy.
At one time the importer for Steyr was in my little home town and a good friend of mine. They split several years ago and not sure who's importing them now. I got to see the ultra light rifles before they even came on market..
Schoolmarm,
I know those guys, they are great folks and I am sorry they no longer handle Steyr-Mannlicher.
jim
I have six Steyrs.
Nothing else will shoot better or have a better trigger right out of the box.
I have an older Luxus full stock model M in 270 and the rest are safe bolt versions.
In Safebolts I have a 7mm-08 stainless synthetic carbine,a 270 blued synthetic rifle,a 280 stainless synthetic,a 280 deluxe blued walnut,and a 30-06 blued carbine.
I have had at least a dozen others through the years.
Never had a lemon,and I can't say that about a lot of other manufacturers' rifles.
At one time the importer for Steyr was in my little home town and a good friend of mine. They split several years ago and not sure who's importing them now. I got to see the ultra light rifles before they even came on market..
Was that Mr. Woods by chance?
I have a stainless synthetic pro hunter in .300 WSM. They are very nice rifles; extremely accurate out of the box, good trigger and a slick action.
I shot an SSG for a while in the 1990s and found it to be a pretty solid rifle. I put about 2000 rounds through it and never logged a zero change that could not be attributed to operator error.
Are the barrels still press fit? At the time the knock on them was that you could not rebarrel because none of the smiths wanted to deal with it.
Bringing back an old thread......
Just found a Steyr Safebolt SBS 96 chambered in 6.5x55.
Not sure exactly what model it is but it comes with a walnut stock which the rifle is sitting in right now. It also comes with a synthetic stock, one magazine, factory scope bases, and the original box with papers.
All steel is matte blue, no blems anywhere but for a couple scratches on the checkering.
I can get it for $799 out the door, should I jump?????
eurooptic has started to import these again, I'd compare the prices of new ones. I've got one of the earlier SBS prohunters in .243. they are somewhat odd rifles, but the workmanship is pretty remakrable. I have to use warne mediums to mount the scope so it'll clear the bolt handle, i DONT like that. otherwise, a really well made rifle.
I have a stainless Pro Hunter in .280. It is a great rifle. I have or have had Weatherbys, Rugers, Remingtons and Tikkas. I would choose my Steyr over all of them. Shoots MOA with any ammo I run through it. The adjustable stock is a great feature when I adjust for very heavy clothing for Canada deer hunting. It is a little funky looking though.
Steyr's are great rifles, very accurate and great triggers. Mine is a ProHunter in 6.5X57. The $799 seems very fair for and extra stock and rings.
Here are a couple of the old Steyr rifles I have. The second and forth from the top say Steyr Daimler Puch .... on the receiver.
Don't know if the offer is still available but Cabelas listed 3 different versions of the Pro Hunter for $800 new. I thought hard about those since we have two Cabelas in SC now, just can't justify expanding the arsenal right now.
The current models use the Safe Bolt System (SBS) action that was introduced in '96. I bought my first SBS rifle in '98. My current favorite is the Mannlicher Ultra Light. Here is a factory picture.
It can give my NULA a run...jim
Do they make mounts that don't look like bricks for that model?
Americans buy based on advertising and gun rags.
Steyr rifles are not marketed towards American notch markets.
Excellent rifles will few faults out of the box. Absolutely SUB MOA. world class triggers, adjustable stocks, safest rilfe made.
One thing is for sure, they shoot well.
I had one in 243 that was beautiful, but would not print minute of basketball with anything. The barrel I recall would heat up after one shot. I gladly traded it for a Sako and would never own another Steyr.
I think I may let it sit on their rack for a little while (hope this decision doesn't come back to bite me) and then go back to the bargaining table with them.
The current models use the Safe Bolt System (SBS) action that was introduced in '96. I bought my first SBS rifle in '98. My current favorite is the Mannlicher Ultra Light. Here is a factory picture.
It can give my NULA a run...jim
Do they make mounts that don't look like bricks for that model?
If I am not mistaken they use the same bases as a browning Abolt...the bolt design makes you use the next ring height up in size.
Looked at one yesterday a stainless model in 300WSM and the workmanship especially the metalwork is crazy good for a gun priced like this.
tbear, wha tmodel do you have in .376 steyr?
Thanks,
B8
I have seen that gun up for sale at LGS with tag of around $1000. It has parkerized metal with black plastic stock plus iron sights. I think they call that pro-hunter. I passed on it because of the caliber. Nice handling and easy to carry piece if one can take face pounding. Unless it's .358, 356 or .35 Whalen I have zero use for anything beyond magnum .30.
My old Cooper Scout has killed game and won matches. It's fun to take to the range and shoot better groups tight sling prone at 300 yards than the magnum guys can do from the bench. They are strange looking but fit well and are very accurate. As others have said, it is one I will keep.
My old Cooper Scout has killed game and won matches. It's fun to take to the range and shoot better groups tight sling prone at 300 yards than the magnum guys can do from the bench. They are strange looking but fit well and are very accurate. As others have said, it is one I will keep.
Yep, last rifle I'd part with.
I sighted-in a new Steyr Pro Hunter in 30-06 this week. The newer Pro Hunters have the black fiber reinforced stock with aluminum pillars. Average of the first three, three-shot groups averaged .84" with a mix of old 152gr Remington and new 165 gr Hornady ammo. The trigger is very good and the build quality is high. I like the tang safety and the bushing that fills the voids between lugs as a means to minimize gas escape. With a current street price under $800, there is a lot to like about them. They have more plastic than I prefer but the design is very safe and performs well.
Good rifles, but pretty ugly. Awhile back you could get pro hunters dirt cheap at Gander Mountain.
I got rid of all my Steyr , non System SBS96, rifles.
I also slimmed down to just the more unusual or rare versions, SBS light tacticals, 7x64 PH, iron sighted mountain 308, 376 compact, and a Grossier, which is basicly a classix mountain with iron sights and a scolloped reciver.
I really like the backup iron sights.
The 376 is by far the most accurate rifle I have ever owned, a bit rough benchrest...but a one holer.
The Grossier is the most beautiful.
Have owned Sako and Sauer but never Steyr,
fixed that last week.
Happened to run into two.
Got this one, cheap, at a local gunshop that was tired of it gracing their shelf,
Steyr Mountain Rifle, 308 Win. Came with 5 & 10 shot mag. Have sent off to Steyr for action screws to flush mount the 5 shot mag. Don't care forthe feel of the extended mag when slung.
Also have a Steyr Mannlicher Classic Light full stock version (5.85 lbs) in 270 Win on the way in.
Hard to resist those nice wood Mannlicher stocks.
Will try the 308 Win on some hoglets later this week.
See what kind of impression it will make.........
JAPMF
GWB
I have extra mounting screws if you haven't had them ordered yet.
Try a 165 over 42.0 gr imr4895.
I usually shoot 150 gr. Accubonds over either Varget, RL-15 or 4320.
In the past I've also done the IMR 3031 with the Sierra 165 Gr. HPBTs. I have some of those loaded and will try your recipe soon, also. Prolly tomorrow, in preparation for later in the week.
PM your way
Best,
GWB
I had a Jeff Cooper Scout and sold it. As soon as I shipped it I was wishing I hadn't. So a year or so later, I bought the Scout tactical model. Great rifle, but too heavy to lug around hunting. So I bought another Scout (black not Jeff Cooper model). I love these rifles. Both shoot under MOA easily with the right ammo. With the 1 in 12 twist, I haven't been able to get them to really shoot 165 or 168 grain pills all that well. But they love 150 grain, and will both shoot the same load. I'm getting 2850 out of the 19" barrel. I can work up a load on the heavy barrel and transfer that load to the shorter lighter barreled Scout, and it will shoot just as well. They are pricey, but I think you get your money's worth. This is my go to rifle, can carry 20 rounds on board, light and accurate, backup sights, dependable unless you use CCI primers. I recently picked up an AUG, fun factor 10. If anyone has questions about these rifles I'll be happy to reply, I've got quite a bit of experience with them.
Here are some for sale in an Email I got from Steyr.
http://www.steyrarms.com/store/index.php/accessories/steyr-sale-specias.htmlWas surprised to see a 260 Rem listed. I got a 260 as well as a 376 back in 2002. Still have the 260, shot an inland grizzly in AK with the 376. Recoil wasn't bad, just no need for a 376 in the plains states.
Hmmm, my only comment about Steyr concerns their 98 mauser military actions.....nice to build on.
Bringing this one back up again for a few questions.
My Dad has a Steyr Forester with SS in 30.06. He has the box, paperwork and it has a 30mm Rocky Mountain Optics scope mounted on it. Been fired less than 20 times. It truly is a beautiful rifle.
Can someone give me a ballpark on Value of it?
I agree that Steyr is the most accurate production rifle manufacturer today. My first was a 308 Prohunter that shot near 1/4" groups with Hornady 150gr Light Mags. I have 2 now...a Steyr Classic in 270 WSM and a Luxus Take-Down bought directly from Steyr from the same list mentioned above.
I had one in 308 Winchester back in the late 70's. It was as accurate as you could want, but miss fired often. I couldn't seem to get it repaired and let it go. I haven't wanted to try another, but from what I read here, it appears the miss fire problem has been fixed.
I really like mine. Here are a couple:
.30'06 1965 MCA
Probably my favorite, a 7x57 Model M Luxus
Dad has a full stock Luxus in 308. It shoots very well. His only complaint is the plastic detachable magazine gets a little wonky. I like the twisted forging where the barrel meets the receiver.
The detachable mag on mine is made of steel and only holds 3 rounds but, I usually never need the 3 in reserve.
I had a pro hunter. Extremely accurate and extremely weird looking. Hated the bolt handle.
I handled a synthetic stock model in 6.5X55MM a couple of years ago and I thought it was a really cool rifle, dont remember the price.