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Posted By: podunk Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/18/11
Used gun in the local shop got my gears turnin......
Think mild mannered 308 and you'll be close.

What kind of rifle?
Rem 722.
Posted By: Joe Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/18/11
I used to own one 40 years ago. Very accurate and I worked up to a book maximum of 44 grains IMR-4064. No telling what the pressure was, nor velocity because this was before affordable chronos. Wish I still had it!
Since graduating to the 99 Savage, I don't push so hard!
Several guys here on the 'fire have older Remingtons like that, and I remember a lot of positive comments about how well they shoot.

If you're handloading for it you won't be constrained by the length of the Savage 99 magazine. I have a 700 Classic and it's very easy to load for.
Does anyone know if the stock and scope mounts are comparable to a 700 short action?
Scope mounts should be the same. Stocks are not.
The 300 is my pet caliber. Some time ago I chronied a .308WCF factory load - 150 grain power points at 2700 fps. An appropriate load of Varget behind the same bullet in my .300 Sav. yields 2650 fps. That pretty much whittled down the .308 WCF advantage in my mind. It's good enough for what I'll encounter in the deer woods. Yeah, I know you can drive the .308WCF faster, but the vast majority of the guys are using factory loads to take their game. Most whitetails won't make it more than 40 yards hit correctly with one shot from the .300 savage.
You'll like it unless you're into taking 300 or 400 yard shots. Easy to reload, easy on the shoulder at the range, and death to deer.

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How much modification would it take to get a 700 SA stock to fit? The action screws measured the same at the shop.
You might have to relieve the bolt handle area.

Send Mule Deer a PM, I believe he's put one into a 700 Mountain Rifle stock.
Thanks mathman. I think ms podunk is about to get herself a deer rifle...
The 722 is just a short action 700.

There are a couple of small difference that require inletting to install a 722 in a 700 stock. The tang, safety, and sometime bolt handle inletting need to be changed on a 700 stock when you install a 722 action. Most 722 barrels have a boss, a wide place on the outside of the barrel, where the rear sight is mounted, so that stock would need to be inletted for the barrel boss if your rifle has a boss.

If you use a 700 ADL stock, all you'll need is the 700 ADL trigger guard. If you use a 700 BDL stock, you'll need the 700 BDL bottom metal and a 700 BDL magazine box.

I have a couple of 722s installed in 700 stocks, a 257 Roberts in a 700 BDL stock and a 25-284 installed in a 700 MR stock.

The 300 Savage is a nice cartridge. Think of it as a 90% 308, just a little shorter, a little less case capacity, so a little slower. When I lived in NH, I hunted deer with a Remington 760 in 300 Savage that I reloaded for, using the 170 grain Reminton RNCL 30-30 bullets. They were very effective when fired an 2600 fps.

Good luck!

JEff
Thanks Jeff I eyeballed the two next to each other so I knew it could be done.
Fantastic caliber and pleasant on the shoulder. Recently bought a 99-300 and its very accurate and pleasant to shoot. Dropped a 8 point in its tracks and its my new favorite deer rifle now. Wish I hadn't passed up a 700 in that caliber when I saw one in a gun shop.
It's the halfway point between the 30-30 and .30-06 in my mind. A delightful cartridge that has a lot of punch but doesn't punch back too hard.
I like it much
What rifle do you have in that chambering steelhead?
Posted By: jbmi Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/19/11
A lot of people don't know this but the 300 Savage was the inspiration for the 308. The 308 was not a shortened version of a 30-06.
Great deer hunting caliber.
A customized 700, McMillan Edge stock, 21" Douglas tube

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Takedown 99

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And an 99EG

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What're you loading in the 700?
Same as I am in the 99's, 130gr TTSX
If I do go with this rifle im either going with the 150 accubond or the 130 ttsx. If ms podunks doin the shootin I definitely want two holes...
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Same as I am in the 99's, 130gr TTSX


Are you running the same recipe in both platforms?

THX
Expat
Originally Posted by podunkkennels
Used gun in the local shop got my gears turnin......


Oh you mean one of these grin

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Hope you don't ever need an extractor, they are getting harder and harder to find. Great little rifles though and fun to shoot. Very little recoil and extremely accurate.
That is how a rifle should look. Period. Excepting that damn righty bolt handle of course.
Originally Posted by corelokt
That is how a rifle should look. Period. Excepting that damn righty bolt handle of course.


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What moosemike said.

My dad and my maternal uncle Bill both had 99 EGs when I was a lad. My uncles' had an old K4 in "Montana Mounts," an early quick detachable mount system made in Livingston MT I think. I confiscated my dads, scoped it (yes, I cringe too now, but that was 30 years ago) and hunted for 20 years with it. Still have it, and take it out now and then.

In my uncle's hands, any standing deer within 300 yards and any runnning deer that gave him a good chance within 150 yards were venison. He used that .300 from around 1950 till 1984, the year he died.
Just purchased a Remington 700 Classic 300 Savage like NIB. Not a mark on it. It had the Leupold standard 2 piece bases which I swapped out for the 2 piece Dual Dovetail bases. I also just purchased a gloss Leupold Vari-X III 2.5-8 which I think will be perfect for this 300 Savage.
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Good looking rifles fellas. Yep bsa that's the culprit grin
Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Same as I am in the 99's, 130gr TTSX


Are you running the same recipe in both platforms?

THX
Expat


Negative, same powder but 2grs less in the 99's. No reason to beat them all to hell......
I feel that the .300Sav is a light .308Win. I have one in a Mod 99 Sav lever and one in a Mod 181 Rem auto. Probably the best, short action, .30 cal round for the first 1/2 of the 20th century.
Great caliber,Factory velocitys bout 2650 or so with 150 grain bullet.According to an old Speer reloading manual the 308 Winchester was developed because the 300 savage was a little too short for reliable feeding in automatic rifles.
Always thought the 300 Savage with 150 grain bullets was just about what the doctor ordered for deer,mild recoil with decent trajectory and velocity to open the bullets up .
I use an 8mm JS mauser to pretty much duplicate 300 Savage ballistics running a 150 Sierra and 47 grains of H-4895 for about 2700 FPS and it kills deer just fine .I would expect the 300 savage would do at least as well givin that the .308 bullet 150 grain bullet has a slightly better Sectional than the .323 150 grain bullet.

Craig
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Originally Posted by ExpatFromOK
Originally Posted by Steelhead
Same as I am in the 99's, 130gr TTSX


Are you running the same recipe in both platforms?

THX
Expat


Negative, same powder but 2grs less in the 99's. No reason to beat them all to hell......


Roger. Thanks.

Expat
Posted By: Vek Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/19/11
From a throating standpoint, I gotta think the 300 savage is a better idea than 308 in a 2.8" mag box. Seems like you could get bullets longnosed and slippery (i.e. 155 scenar) throated to kiss at less than 2.8".
I don't know how far off the lands they are, but 155 and 168 grain VLD Bergers do pretty well in my 700 Classic. And they look pretty snazzy seated long in the sharp shouldered little case. grin
Ruger could chamber it as the .308 Creedmoor and sell a ton of rifles... wink
Well its official I bought the rifle today after much negotiation. Project sissy rifle has begun......
Nothing wrong with sissy rifles. wink

I went from owning three .375 H&H Magnums 10 years ago to a closet with a preponderance of .223, .243, .250, .30-30, .308 etc. The .30-06's are the "big" rifles nowadays.
It would be very hard to get my 250 and 300 Savage 700 Classics away from me.

I'm only 6'2", about 205-210. That's why I like my sissy rifles. grin
Im about the same size but the biggest gun I own is a. 270 win..... I think this 722 will make a great first deer rifle for my girlfriend. She's already looking at stains to refinish the stock lol. Now I need glasss...
SH:

That custom is one sweet rig.

B.S.
Posted By: DMc Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/20/11
Originally Posted by Jim in Idaho
Ruger could chamber it as the .308 Creedmoor and sell a ton of rifles... wink


Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!!! Priceless!
Originally Posted by podunkkennels
Im about the same size but the biggest gun I own is a. 270 win..... I think this 722 will make a great first deer rifle for my girlfriend. She's already looking at stains to refinish the stock lol. Now I need glasss...


Congrats, I think she'll like it. My teenage boys are light framed and don't mind shooting the 300 Savage at all. Course, they like the 250 Savage better, but don't we all? grin
I think she's more jacked up about refinishing the wood than the friggin rifle lol...
Originally Posted by podunkkennels
I think she's more jacked up about refinishing the wood than the friggin rifle lol...


But once she has added her personal touch it will be her rifle...

On the other hand, she may get into tinkering with rifles, could be a major pain in the butt, continually asking you to please pick up another rifle so that she can work it over... What a nightmare!

Jerry
It's my pet Caliber and the most fun to reload . The .358 runs a close second !
I suprised Ruger never chambered the .300 Savage in the
M77, they done almost everything else. Remington made a
limited run of 700BDLs in 300 back in the early 90s but
they didnt sell very well. Savage was/is offering it in
the M14 Classic last time I checked.
Originally Posted by jerrywoodswalker
Originally Posted by podunkkennels
I think she's more jacked up about refinishing the wood than the friggin rifle lol...


But once she has added her personal touch it will be her rifle...



Jerry
my thoughts exactly. She likes shooting but hasn't been able to bond with any of my rifles, if you will.

Hi podunkkennels,

Don't know about the rifle you buy but, in France, where the 308 aka 7,62x51 is a restricted caliber (you can own one but with licence to be renew every 3 years) the 300 Savage is well known among shooters (not too much by hunters) who want to use a 30 caliber for target shooting from 200 to 800m without going magnum. The 30-284 is another well known one. Even if more able long range calibers are available (6BRNorma, 6,5x47, 6XC, 6,5-284) two of my friends use 300 Savage with match chamber (neck turning mandatory). One is a french Unique single shot action with 70cm (27,5in) barrel from same make, the second is Remington 700 action, 24in Krieger match barrel in an AICS stock.
In the Unique we load 155 Scenar home moly coated in front of 2,53g (39grs) to 259 (40grs)VN135 and Federal match primers for 820m/s (2690fps. Bullet is loaded to just touch the rifling. The Rem700 use Nosler 155grs with little less powder: 2,50g (38,5g)VN135. We also use Vectan SP9 powder which is as close to Ramshot Tac as the BLC2 is to the 748. Same powder different lots...
Accuracy is really fantactic till 800m never used farther.
Some "sp�cialist" say the short neck cause accuracy and handloading problems but that's just BS (as with the 300Winch Mag), we have never encountered any issue with this cartridge.
As a hunting rifle, i have in Quebec, where i lived some years, one old 99 300 Savage i used only one time on whitetail with 150grs Winchester factory load. Was one shot kill. The model possess the small hole in the magazine wall with cartridge counter inside. Really a very good softly spoken mild manered gentleman of a cartridge.
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Marseille;

Interesting that the 308 is limited. No doubt that stupid law has saved many lives.
crazy

Do you many laws that are not dumb and that save life? In Europe we don't have a lot of such things..And in France can be even worse but we do our best to enjoy the shooting and hunting sports. Sometimes living on the edge....
Posted By: Rug3 Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/20/11
podunkkennels

Congratulations on selecting a great caliber and a great gun.

I recently completed personalizing a 722 for a friend. It is her first rifle. We glass bedded the entire barrel channel and floated the barrel. Cut over an inch from the stock. The wood puzzled me. I thought from the color and grain that it was Birch but her husband showed it to a guy who deals in exotic woods and he recognized it immediately. Sycamore! He gave him sample of 1/4 sawed Sycamore and sure enough, it's Sycimore. Very pretty, interesting, lively wood. She chose to not stain it and her husband, a finishing carpenter, hand rubbed a poly finish. I built 100 handloads for her. I stuck an old Simmons 3-9X40 scope on it just to get her started. She phoned me recently asking why all her shots didn't touch each other. Shooting off a swing set for a rest at 89yds. a nickle will cover her 5 shot groups. I told her that she probably has a case of "Shooter's Wabbles." I did NOT tell her that I probably couldn't do better.

300 Savage. My dad bought his new in 1927. It was his only "big game" rifle after that. Capable of harvesting Moose, Elk, Bear, Whitetail, and all North America's species he confidently kept the family fed. He shot it the last time in 1986 at the age of 86. Nice 8 point Whitetail. He died previous to the next hunting season.

I have guns in my gun cabinet valued in four digit numbers but none of them have harvested nearly the number of game that old 300 has. Back in the early fifty's dad once said to me, "if you see someone who's carrying a 300 Savage, they probably know something you don't!"

You, sir, have a great gun, on a great platform, sporting a great caliber.

Jim
Thank you jim. Yours and your fathers confidence in the cartridge speaks volumes to me. Any pics of your friends rifle finished?
Posted By: DMc Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/20/11
All you bolt (Frankenstein) Guys do love your rifles. I prefer pumps & single shots! (Top 300 Savage 20", Middle 35 Remington 18.5", Bottom 35 Remington 16.5")

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I still hunt with the origional 300 Savage. Fun to shoot. Easy on recoil. 130 TTSX's and 180 Speer Hot Cores (in this 99) shoot into small groups. Kills things "DEAD". laugh

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Posted By: Joe Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/20/11
Marseille, Haven't you posted a pic of a really nice Savage 99 in .300 caliber. IIRC, it was engraved.
Posted By: Rug3 Re: Tell me about the .300 Savage - 05/21/11
She has the gun, no pix.

Jim

No sorry it's a 250 with slow twist barrel and an old german Nickel scope mounted a bit high. I 'aint no picture of my old 300 which stay in Quebec at my friend home to be used when i go there...
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The 250 with a roe deer taken in south west of France
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