If so, I see that Savage is offering them in their least expenisve "Trophy Hunter XP "package" rifles that come with a 3-9x40 Nikon scope.
The 6.5 Creedmoor is offered in the short action, along with the 260, both with 22" barrels. The 6.5-284 Norma is offered in the long action with a 24" barrel.
The small dealer wholesale is around $420.
Jeff
This might be off the wall but I've been considering getting a 6.5-284 in a varmit weight rifle for long range praire dogs. With the 140gr. A-Max at around 2700 fps I would think this should be a pretty flat shooting and wind bucking combination.
I am looking at a 6.5, but in 6.5x55 Swedish out of a CZ 550 Full Stock. I recently bought a CZ 452 Full Stock in 22 mag that I really like and now I've got the full stock itch. Anyone with 6.5x55 experience?
I like the 6.5x55 and just bought a Ruger 77R to rework into the 77RSI format.
I hate the CZ 550 FS. To me, it has 1 of the 3 worst mannlicher style stocks ever put on a factory sporter, ranking down there with the Mossberg 800M and the Winchester 70 Mannlicher. The CZ 550 FS stock has handling qualities that you usually find in a cedar fence post.
Jeff
To me the 6.5-284 is a 6.5 rem mag that makes seince.
I've been a happy 6.5-284 shooter for many years.
Jeff
I currently have a 6.5x55, and have a 6.5, 8 twist blank on order as we speak. Debating over 6.5-284 norma -or- 6.5'06.
These 6.5's are addicting!
im running the swede as well. killing machine. thought about a 6.5x284, but i think it's duplicates my swede to much
The swede in a win 70 lightwheight with the old fed 140gr nos partions cooking along at something like 2600fps gave me two cow elk. The range was about 200yds give or take a meter or so.
The 6.5-284 is sort of a 6.5x55 Extra Improved.
In terms of case capacity, the 6.5x55 holds 57 grains of H2O, while the 6.5-284 made with reformed Winchester/Olin 284 brass holds 65 grains of H2O, an 8 grain (14%) increase in capacity.
Jeff
Hey 260, how far behind the 6.5-284 am I with my Swede pushing the 140 Partition to an easy 2751 fps out of my 25" barrel?
Thanks
Gunner
Thanks Son
I know you guys like the lighter weight speed-stars, but i have nearly 600 of these dang things to shoot up, I cant help think they will be very good penetrators on medium NA game animals.
Gunner
I have a Winchester/USRA 70 Fwt that has been rechambered from 6.5x55 to 6.5-284. The gain in speed that I've seen is 120+/- fps more with 140 grain Partition, 180+/- fps more with the 129 grain Hornady, and 210+/- fps more with both the 100 grain BT or Partition.
This rifle has the shortest barrel of my 4 6.5-284s, 22" vs. 24" for the other 3 rifles, but is slightly faster. The other 3 rifles are also short actions.
Jeff
10-Roger, Thanks Jeff, I'm thinkin' inside 300 yards the little Swede and me will be in good company with the 140 NPT's at that speed.
Gunner
I have rarely gotten advertised speeds out of my 'swede. I am at 2900fps with 120's, 2700 with 130's, and I think I was around 2600 with 140's. The 100's were smoking at 3150 though.
I believe a 6.5-284 is around 2900-3000 with 140's.
Just picked up a Creed, after wanting one for a few years now. Love the cartridge!
Current-production factory 140-grain match ammo runs ~2,765 from its 24" tube. I've read that older factory ammo was rated to higher speed, but mine claims 2,710 on the box.
[quote=dogcatcher223]I have rarely gotten advertised speeds out of my 'swede. I am at 2900fps with 120's, 2700 with 130's, and I think I was around 2600 with 140's. The 100's were smoking at 3150 though.
I believe a 6.5-284 is around 2900-3000 with 140's. [/quote
2751 fps came real easy in my rifle with the 140 NPT's, RL-22, and Lapua brass combined with a 25" Shilen #2 contour, and IIRC the first group was sub 1/2" for three at 100.
Gunner
Thanks, 260. I'll look into it.
Do not mess around with the 6.5x284. It burns too much powder to get a slight velocity increase that isn't all that much of an advantage. Recoil is too heavy for varmint hunting, brass is expensive. Mine is on a Cooper single shot, it isn't anywhere near as accurate as the .243 WSSM I built up on a Savage PTA, or my .257 Roberts AI or any of the other swap barrel cartridges on the Savage PTA's or Remington 700's. I am toying with buying a 6.5 Creedmoor Pac-Nor 1:8" polygonal rifling barrel for the Remington swap barrel action or a Brux 1:8" for the Savage. I still believe the .243 WSSM in a single shot (less feeding troubles - none in fact) is probably the most efficient long range varmint cartridge. Necked up to .264" it would be ideal for fans of that bore. Feed it Hunter powder and it should be a .5" or below rifle.
I have been shooting the 6.5-284 for awhile and haven't found that the additional velocity makes it a noticably better 6.5mm bore cartridge, within the limits of my ability, than the 260, 6.5x55, or 256 Newton. I have not yet owned a 6.5 Creedmoor.
I haven't hunted with the 243 WSSM, but like to shoot varmints and medium game with the 5 different Winchester/USRA 70s in 25 WSSM that I have on the rack. My primary pdog rifle is a Winchester/USRA 70 Super Shadow action with Ultimate Shadow bottom metal, a 1-14" Shilen barrel, and a McM Compact stock. Over 1K rounds down the tube and still hitting the mark.
Jeff
I currently have a 260 ackley, 6.5 creed and a 6.5x47. I think the 6.5 caliber is the easy to load for and not a bad chioice in the bunch. I have found that the 6.5 creed is the easiest to load for and may be the most accurate, but it may just be the rifle.
I can't for the life of me see why the 6.5 Creedmore is more popular than the .260. The factories are promoting the Creedmore and making better loads for it, but the .260 shoots the exact same bullets and it has more capacity. If you hand load it, it will out shoot the Creedmore. The 6.5/.284 is a pretty good cartridge alright. I have witnessed a coyote killed at 900 yds. with one in a Savage. But as far as the 6.5 mag goes, Remington is missing the boat by not loading it up as a long range cartridge in a 700 long action. If they would make good match cases and loads for it, it would outshoot the 6.5/284. It has more capacity. And if they would improve it with a 35* shoulder and a little straighter case then they'd really have something for long range. Just my thoughts and 2 cents worth.
I saw an article in the American Rifleman about the new "lightweight hunter" or some such name of a Savage that is rather cleverly designed as a light weight hunting rifle.
While at nearly $1000, it isn't a cheap Savage. But, if I were buying a Savage, that one has my attention.
If I wanted a 6.5, I'd do the Creedmoor round. Has the same capacity as the .260, but is better designed for use with the super high BC, 140 gr. bullets.
I wish Ruger made their heavy barreled 6.5 Creedmoors with their target trigger. Even w/o it, they are a heck of a deal from what I hear. E
Since I already have 34 CF rifles chambered for 6.5mm bore cartridges; 256 Newton (x2), 260 (x20), 6.5x55 (x8), and 6.5-284 (x4), I doubt that I'll buy either a 6.5x47 or 6.5 Creedmoor anytime soon.
I'm not a competitive target shooter, or a pretend sniper, so any advantage that the 6.5 Creedmoor might have over my existing herd of 22 260s is likely to be more theoretical than practical in nature.
Not a big fan of the Savage 110 series rifles if other viable options are available, but they have their place. I can't honestly think of any scenario where I'd ever pay $1K for any Savage 110 series rifle that has ever been made, particularly so for a lightweight rifle when CLRs can regularly be bought for much less $$.
Jeff
The light weight hunter can be bought for 715, which for a 5.75 lb rifle with some look that is guaranteed to shoot, I'd say it's a pretty good bargain.you will not have to replace the stock, replace the trigger, and bed the action in order to get it to shoot either......not saying that we have to do that, but I see a lot of guys on here who do that to get a rifle to shoot .5 to .75 when a savage will do that stock just about every time. Jmo, lenny
I don't believe for a second that when you buy a Savage 110 series rifle you get a rifle that will shoot .5 to .75 in its stock/out of the box configuration just about every time. Anybody on the internet can shoot 0.5 to 0.75 MOA groups, but it is much more difficult in real life.
Jeff
PS - I wouldn't pay $715 for a Savage 110 series rifle either.
There seems to be a lot of overlap in the 6.5s these days. The 6.5x55, 260, and Creed all seem to be too similar to each other.