The new Mauser M12, I think Mauser is on to something good here.

The 9.3x62, I really hope they import this cartridge. I'm a buyer if they do.

Likes, weight of rifle, holds 5 standard, trigger, all steel construction, design looks good, interesting bolt design.

read all about it
http://us.mauser-m12.com/

That website is not easy to read.

I see no mention of control round feeding.

There is little for me to like on that rifle besides the three position safety and the name "Mauser"

To add that I searched for a picture of it's bolt face and could not find one.



How much are they in dollars?

Did you see the video?

What do you think Mauser has there?

Can you answer my questions please?

Typically clueless...

I don't answer stupid questions.

Previously discussed, without personal animosity.

Yeah that is a nice looking rifle. Mauser kicks out a quality product, if you're smart enough to know that CRF isn't necessary when chasing non-dangerous game (no I don't toggle but that is Sav99's one trick pony so I don't have to ignore my ignore function to know the retardation he spews).

I have been absolutely ecstatic over my M96 American but was very sad when Sig bought Mauser and that model was discontinued. Mine is in '06 and locks up in the barrel like this new model. Extraordinarily accurate.

They look great. I have one coming in 9.3

Whats the retail?

Savage 99 please show us a picture of a CRF action. Didnt you used to have one as your avatar.

found it http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/7510620/1

Nice looking rifle. I see the LOP is 14 1/4, which will definitely make it non-ideal for me.

Will will pay 2K, which I'm happy with. Lookout Sako!

Very nice, I could see myself with one in 6.5 x 55 or 8 x 57 if they should ever come in to the US. The one thing about the German, they know how to put a hunting rifle together.

Don't hold me to it, but another site is reporting 1500 � -1800 � for plastic and wood respectively. Seems like a pretty good spread to me. Jack

I am thinking about this one as well. I already have a 9.3 in a CZ 550, but it is a right hand shooter and I shoot left handed. An M12 "Extreme" in a LH model in 9.3 with a 56mm illuminated scope would be nice. I am here in Deutschland with the US military and I can get it tax free, (-19%) off of retail. I might have to "pull the trigger" on that one. lol.

Why, you do not listen and you sure as heck do not seem to be able to learn.

From the Mauser website, re the Mauser 12:

*Short 60� bolt lift (sounds like 3-lug push-feed to me).

*Direct locking in the barrel via 6 large locking lugs and double ejector for strong ejection. (Pretty much rules out a M-98 style)

*3-position safety (ala Winchester Model 70), which directly acts on the firing pin.

*Excellent direct trigger with approx. 2 lb** trigger pull for accurate shooting (Me likey)

*Classic, straight stock shape with �Prince of Wales� pistol grip, fine, split checkering and exquisite scalloping on the stock around the receiver. (Veddy Nice, indeed)

*Detachable magazine staggers the cartridges for maximum capacity; Mauser crest adorns the steel floor plate. (I like the flush fit)

I'd love to have one in 7x57, myself................Heck, I even liked the Stag-handled Mauser hunting knife, shown in the video.


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I wish to Christ that Jack Kevorkian had been your neighbor 20 years ago.

Or David Berkowitz...

Looks like they are to come in at a little less than the German site indicated $1499 for plastic, $300 more for wood. That puta them in dollars what the site originally reported in Euros. Jack

I had the chance to weigh two M12's a few weeks back:
9.3 walnut = 6.512lbs
300wm syn = 7.04lbs
Nice an light!

The finest modern day factory rifle I have seen.

http://www.gunsandammo.com/2013/05/08/first-look-mauser-m12-debuts-for-american-market/

Now that was funny.

I heard these 12's are aimed directly at taking on Sako 85 - Gotta feeling they will win too

Yes, I agree, the Sako will win!

Yes, I agree, the Sako will win!

I question your sanity..the same company that introduced CRF obviously does not think it is necessary in modern sporting arms especially in non dangerous game cartridges.

No ways! Sako 85 actions are flawed

Mauser just doesn't get it. They keep introducing abomanations like the Mauser 2000, and it fails. If they would just try a rifle based on the m98, they would find people would want to buy it. With today's CNC technology the sky is the limit.

My suggestion would be to take a good hard look at the M12 before purchasing

So, what's not to like??

You've apparently had your hands on a couple. Was there something about them that you didn't care for?

And produce it with the option of either double square bridge or dovetails.

I think that you will find that "Mauser", which is NOT the same company as that which existed prior to the horrific human tragedy we know as "WWII", DOES in fact produce the original "Patterne 98" sporting rifles or, at least, close facsimiles of them.

The issue is that the basic model as I found when I enquired of a Canadian dealer in their products, last year, is priced at $15,000+ CDN. and then it would take a YEAR to get one......

I am a rockhard Mauser guy, I actually do own a fine Oberndorf Type B, in 9.3x62 of 1937 vintage and it shoots "dambusters" as one would expect. I consider Mauser to have been THE finest riflemaker of the pre-war period and think their destruction in the war to have been one of the very worst tragedies of that terrible event in human history.

But, how many guys can REALLY afford rifles that start at 15K per unit and, for those of us who can,most would prefer to have one built by a master such as Duane Weibe, Reto Buehler, Ralf Martini or perhaps one of the British or Euro. custom makers.

Just a thot, but, I doubt that they COULD produce a genuine "98" of the quality we see in even the better military versions, such as the 1930s South American models, at a price that 95% of today's rifle nuts would pay, whether they could afford it or not.

JStuart, I DID reply to your recent PM, sorry, it slipped my mind for a couple of days, but, I was not ignoring you, perhaps you can retrieve my answer on your end?

Hello Kute, I missed it, most likely when I had the pm's disabled.

Have you seen any other 21 shrouds that work like this one?

Fully agree with you. I recently handled an M12. Push feed, poorly inletted, detachable box, did not have the look or feel of a quality rifle. Clearly built to a price point. Doesn't come close to a Winchester Model 70, which sells for a lot less.

If FN can build an M70 with an excellent CRF action for under a grand, somebody should be able to build an M98 clone for under three grand.

You misunderstood me - I LUV THEM!!!(M12) - Best rifle I have seen in some time!

I like them as well. Got one coming in 8X57. Bolt was slick as glass, and the stock feels real nice. Also they are test fired at the factory using American ammunition, usually Hornady.

OK, got it.
I find them interesting and like the lines.
I'd love to see one in person.

I handled these and the new Saurer at the NRA show. I liked them both and the quality seemed similar. The Mauser had a more traditional feel and the Sauer a bit more modern feel. Both nice, but I preferred the handling and feel of the Sauer by a very slim margin. I don't give a damn about CRF vs PF.

The polymer magazine is pathetic on such a fine rifle.........
Sako 85 Vs Mauser M12............for me its the sako.

Gus

Reviving an older thread here to see if anyone has had the opportunity to own or shoot this rifle.

Looks like a good one..............

I have had one in 7x64 for about a year now and love it. L.O.P. was a bit long at 14.25 "for me but after I cut it down to 13.5 it fit me great and handles better.
I have fired hornady 162 sst in it prvi partizan and rem 140 gr corelokt. Hornady puts em inside an inch and prvi 140gr about the same. Handloads with 139 gr hornady are even better.
Next will be one in 9.3x62 in wood also.

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/9689356/Re:_Mauser_M12#Post9689356

I have a Sauer 101.

I have not yet had the chance to shoot it, but I love the feel of the rifle.

Nicest overmolded stock I have seen. Not a mold like to be found.

2lb. trigger is phenomenal, and the balance (unscoped at this time) seems perfect.

The bolt is smooth as silk, and I think you could drive a truck over the poly magazine.

I think it's a real keeper, and I expect it to shoot well.

They guarantee MOA for 5 shots with factory ammo.