I know they are popular but I would like:
1) scope recommendations for less then 200 yards in timber and open fields.
2)Also I would like a scope with BDC lines showing POI NOT dial in with TOP turret.
3)I just bought one in 30-06 and plan to load 180 and 200 partitions any load suggestions.

I really don't want to hear comparisons on why I should have bought a lever or bolt or semiauto gun. Cause those comments will just be ignored.

Pictures and actual experience tell a lot.

THANKS IN ADVANCE
ABLE

I shoot a 760 with a Zeiss 1.5-6x42 on top of it. I run Barnes 130 grain TTSXs over 53.5 grains of Varget, If it's inside 300 yards and I want it dead, that setup does it as well as anything I've ever shot, and better than most. Kills just the same at a few feet as it does out there a ways. With a load like that there's no reason on earth to have to fiddle with a scope or BDC lines inside 300. In my experience they penetrate better than any 180s out of an '06. Kill better too.

Able,
Are you saying all your shots are under 200 (including fieldwork) or just in the timber.

Not a 7600 but it's ancestor, A 760 in .270 that I inherited from my Dad.

It has a Bushnell Scope Chief 2.5-8 scope on it which I've found to be a good choice for everything from a 30 yard shot to longer shots in the hay field. I've always been impressed with the Remington pump rifles and this one has sure stood the test of time and killed half a metric buttload of game and varmints.

I'm a lever gun fan but I usually hunt with Dad's rifle a couple of times a year just because it was his. This thread got me thinking about it so I think I'll take it with me this evening.

Low power variable. 1.5-5 or 2-7 will do I all. The newer Nikons are great, as well as mid range Leupolds.

Around here the are nicknamed the Amish Machine guns

My7600 (06 carbine) wears a Vari X III 2.5x8
My son's 270 has a VXII 2x7

I like the 2x7 better.

2x7 nikon with bdc

My favorite rifles. I currently have 5.
1) .30-06 Carbine, Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5x
2) .30-06 Rifle, Redfield Revolution 2-7x
3) .358 Win 20", Leupold Vari-X III 1.5-5x
4) .280 Remington Rifle, Leupold VX III 1.5-5x
5) .270 Winchester Rifle, Leupold VX II 2-7x

Yes, I know, a lot of overlap. But I could be spending my money on worse things and will hand a couple down to my sons in a few years.

My favorite is my 06' Carbine with the 1.5-5. Quick handling/pointing and very fast with follow up shots in our dense Northeastern woods when tracking or on the move. My shots for the style of hunting I do are under 100 yds. I shoot 180 RN out of the carbine. You should not need BDC lines for less than 200 yards.

Dave

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-Nikon-P..._DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d271546f5

How about just a way better/cooler pump?

I have a Redfield Revolution 3-9x40 accu range on my old beat up 77,and love it .It would be good for your application I think ..I think that either IMR,or H 4350 is good all around powder for the long action stuff,and it's always easy to find...I just got a good deal on a model six in 270 a few days back,and it has a Redfield widefield 3-9 on it.It has see thru mounts which I aint a fan of,but I don't think I would mind them on a 06 loaded as heavy as you intend especially if they were already there.

Try this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/like/400760318258?lpid=82

Be sure to use see through mounts/rings!!

Now that is cool and classic. .35 Remington?

I have a 7600 7mm-08. Use a barrel band type front sling swivel so you don't put too much strain on the forend like the swivel mounts that replace the forend screw. I've got a Warne one pice base and Burris signature rings on mine. If you are going to use lens covers like the Butler Creek flip ups a longer scope makes it easier to get to the front cover. 200 yards and less? Find a used Zeiss 4x and call it good! YMMV

Many thanks to all the responders. I really appreciate all the suggestions. Please keep the experiences coming.

I originally bought this rifle with the intent for quick off hand shots like when that big 10 pt jumps up in the middle of thick cover and start running though Short pines. It seems to happen to me at least 3x a year. I don't believe in opening fire and spraying lead but I would like to hopefully nail one. I have long range bolt guns for the right applications and a 30/30 for light carry; I just want this for the moment. How accurate are these rifles?

Maybe more then 200 yards in open timber is possible 300 yds achievable???

I have a M760 in 30-06 and love it. My scope is more than needed for my hunting in WV (Leupold 2.5-8X). I could easily get by with a straight 4x but....the scope is already there. If you don't anticipate shooting farther than 200 yards then I think a drop compensating reticle only complicates things, just my thoughts. You could zero 1" high at 100 yards and be plenty good from zero to 175 yards or so without thought of holdover. Even at 200 yards, you'd likely never see the 2" or so low impact on game. The pointing/handling capabilities of a pump rifle are only noticed by those of us that hunt with them. I'd go with a straight 4x or a 2-7x variable and mount as low as I could. You have a great deer hunting firearm, just picking the scope that suits you is probably a tougher issue.

They are as accurate as most middle of the road bolt actions, like the Remington 700, Savage 110, etc.

Just because the action cycles faster than a bolt gun, doesn't mean it's limited to short range and low-power optics.

Able,
For a "jump 'em and shoot 'em" gun, it doesn't get much better than a pump.

The last thing I'd consider for such an application is clutter in the scope.
No lines, to spinners - just a simple crosshair.

300 yards is easily achieved with a 4x or 1.5x5 scope but if you want more magnification, I'd consider a 2x7ish.

And, yes, the 7600's are quite accurate. This one was taken from the tree line in the background with a 1.5x5 - right around the "possible" distance you're inquiring about.

The half dozen or so I've had all shot inch or better. The last time I put the '06 on paper it put 3 each at 51.5 grains Varget, 52.5 grains Varget and 53.5 grains Varget and 130 grain Barns TTSXs all into the same inch.

300 yards is no problem with them.

Don't skimp on the glass. They're well worth good glass.

I think Remington gets a well deserved bad rap of today. That being said I think their older guns were very good guns. I never have cared for semi-autos of ANY brand, but we used to call the 740's etc. Jamingtons. Their pumps and bolts are a whole nother story. They rank right up there with the best. JMHO.

The triggers can be poor. I replace my trigger with a Timmney kit for a 870 pump and it made it both adjustable for lb. letoff using one of the 3 springs in the kit and really crisp.

I've never owned a 760/7600, but have hunted with several that do, and they love them. Good choice.

Scope: Is a 4x fixed power Leupold scope with plex reticle ever a mistake on non-dangerous big game at any responsible shooting distance? Nope. That's what my FN Mauser 98 JC Higgins model 50 30-06 wears.

Your hunting range is to 200 yards? Sight 1-2" high at 100 yards, and hold dead on at any distance to 200 yards. It doesn't get any simpler than that for a sighting device. They go for $150 used on ebay. Leupold has a lifetime warranty. No brainer. Not sure if Leopold has the reticle you are describing, but to 200 yards, it's not needed.

Load: Tough to beat IMR 4350 for a 30-06 bullet weight from 165-200+ grains.

Is there any difference in barrel diameter or barrel attachment between the 760, 7600 or model 6?

I ask because I've been kicking around reboring a -06 to a 12 or 14 twist 35 Whelen and JES reboring (who's a few hours away) only lists the 760, not the 7600 or model 6.

His site doesn't list an Email address or I'd ask him directly.

A co-worker is flying to the Gettysburg Penn area to deer hunt with his family next week. I told him to be on the lookout for a good -06 Rem pump while he's back there. Seems he'd never heard the Amish Machine Gun nickname before, I'll bet his brother has, this might give them a couple laughs.

Any preferences between the older or newer versions? I like the theoretical accuracy advantage of the 7600's telescoping pump over the barrel mounted 760's pump. Anything else to differentiate between them?

I traded into a 7600 30-06 this spring and don't have a lot in it. It's of the vintage that has a high gloss finish and hasn't seen much use. I sighted the irons in with some handloads featuring 165 gr Corelokts and IMR 4350, shoots fine. Next I put a 1 piece Weaver base and rings on it. Took a old Weaver K-4 series 60-B 4x scope and mounted that. Sighted in for 1.5" hi at 100yds. I also added a barrel band sling swivel kit to it using an old 1" sling off a 700 BDL. Took it hunting 5 times so far and have not shot anything yet, I dunno it comes up like a well fit shotgun but carries like a club. Hey you asked. Magnum Man

I quite like the Remington pumps and have a model Six in 6mm Rem (Bushnell Scopechief 2.5-8x), a 7600 in .35 Whelen (Burris 1.5-6x) and a 7600 Carbine (synthetic) in .35 Rem (Weaver 1-3x).

I had a 760 in 270 for a little while with a Viper 2-7x BDC.

4th point,
How do you like the viper 2-7 scope for low light twlight time of day?? Do you know of a web site I can see the cross hairs of the BDC??? I am leaning for less clutter So this is important to me.

Thanks
ABLE

The Viper 2-7x was decent in low light, but not as good as a Leupo 6x42. That scope was discontinued a few years ago but still seems to have a following.

Mine is a 1958 model 760 in 35 Rem with a Leupold 2-7x33 Ultimate Slam on it. This will be my first season with it but so far it's very accurate, quick handling and just cool as can be. There is a 30/06 at the local fun store that may wander in here if it's not careful.

Have your friend check out Redding Hardware in GBurg and take a run over to Sell's in Hanover.

I hunted a farm on Red Rock Road for years and it was a real meat- packing plant. Marsh Creek ran right through the middle. My friend's place was used for some of the shots in the Gettysburg film they made a while back, including the opening scene where the Rebel scout fords the stream. That ford is the same place we used to cross in warm weather.

The early 760s with the tube the forearm slides on all the way through are better for using the sling swivel that attaches to the end IMO. You can put some stress on the telescoping type mounting the sling swivel on the end of them. The main difference between the 760 and 7600 is the 760s have multiple bolt locking lugs like a Weatherby and the 7600s have 3 lugs. I don't know what year Remington's quality started slipping but the early 7600s are regarded as better than the new ones. 760 quality seems the same throughout production. I may be wrong but IIRC the carbine barrels are a bit heavier (thicker).

The 760 pump mechanism is not barrel mounted, it attaches to the receiver same as the 7600. In a 760, the piece at the end of the pump tube that contacts the barrel can be removed, making the barrel free-floated.

4th point's picture shows a 760 with that piece removed.

I burned up some bandwidth last night researching and the 60s and 70s 760 won out.

Thanks.

Yep, I started to file the "brush guard" to better float the barrel but decided to pitch it instead.

I've had this .30-06 7600 for awhile. It's on it's 2nd barrel and buttstock. Remington cleaned up the trigger (4 lbs with a nice roll-off) and reversed the safety (I'm a lefty). It wears a 4X Lyman. Out of 9 .30-06s, it's my sentimental favorite. It's currently zeroed for Fed factory 165 GameKings.
Bob

a full 50% of the guns that were at our sighting in days at the rifle club i worked at are pump guns. Had one old codger come in with a 760 with an old tasco pronghorn jap made 2x7 He should a 3/4" group with that rifle at 100yards with 1 core lokt, 1 federal, and one winchester round, i chit you not, i couldnt believe it.

for you rem pump guys, I have a Lyman aperture receiver site that is like new. it is blued steel and not aluminum. if anyone that shoots open sites would like to have a peep site set up shoot me a message and we'll see if we can't help one another out. it's just sitting here as I was going to use it as a display piece but it is too nice condition wise.

I think SKane hits the nail right on the head, on all counts.

Lower gun is a 1979 vintage Remington 760 30-06 carbine with the same year Leupold VariX III 1.5X5 variable.
Upper gun is a 7400 in .308 with a Denver Redfield Widefield 2X7.

I've hunted the 760 carbine since 1979, the 7400 not quite as long. Hunting in the east, in thick cover, these guns were designed to do what SKane said and they do it well with low powered scopes without any clutter in them. In all these years, I've never moved the power setting of either gun from the lowest setting in an actual hunting situation, and in certain situations would probably have been hindered with a 3X9 variable when deer were real close and moving out fast and my lowest option would have been 3 power.

i never met a remington pump i didn't like

rem model 14r carbine in 30 rem



back seat of a 760 carbine in 30/06 last day of deer last season



personal favorite. 7600 factory carbine in 35 whelen. this one has a match trigger job and shoots tiny little groups.

heres a 14R carbine in 35 rem that i'll be using in a couple of weeks for deer. it is without a doubt the handiest gun i own.

Bigfoot,

Before going to a rebore, just be aware that the 760 has been made in .35 Whelen. So, it might be less expensive to watch for a used one. Or, Grice Gun Shop, a major LGS/Wholesaler in PA, occasionally has special runs of new 7600s in .35 Whelen. ( https://www.gricegunshop.com/ )

the 760 was never made in whelen. but the 7600 was.

rem141r said it for me. "I've never met a rem pump that I didn't like"
But I do like this one a little better than all others.

What stock is on that gun?

They have FANTASTIC triggers!

B&C. It looks good but I'm not impressed with the hydro dip camo or the soft touch coating. If I had to do it over again I'd go with the textured paint. If your going to hunt it hard the camo and soft touch coating will never hold up.

Very nice collection of fine pump guns. I am sure learning alot.
Keep the info coming. Pictures are always welcome.

Thanks
ABLE

NICE DMc. Simple and nice. Tell me more about scope rings and bases you used? How does your rifle shoot?? What caliber??
ABLE

I got on to the 7600's in 2003 largely because of the exploits of the Benoits.

Grices was doing many of the special runs at that time. I called for a Whelen but the were out so the sales guy talked me into a 35 Rem carbine. Best thing that ever happened to me.

A few weeks later he called back and said that a Whelen became available. The second best thing that happened to me.

The 35 carbine has a 2x7 Nikon pro staff with O/U mounts. I know the are hated but it just seems so right and allows your thumb under the scope to grip the ballance point perfect.

It is my go to gun and has accounted for 5 bucks and two does all under 50 yards using Remington factory 200 grain ammo. More later.

As soon as I find the battery charger for my only digital camera, I will post up a photo or two of my new to me Model 7600 with Burris 30mm tube 1.5-6x scope. All metal cerrakoted matte black and the same B&C stock that Les has above on his remington pump. Mine was a 30/06 but was re bored to 35 Whelen.

My only time at the range with it I was totally and pleasantly surprised at how well it shot. I had always wanted a 35 Whelen and now I have a great example. Just have to get well enough to hunt with it, hopefully in 2015!

I doubt you'll find a used pum in 35 Whelen that is in decent shape for less than 250 bucks give or take. Thats about what it costs for a rebore

I love my Rem 7600 in 35 Whelen, aka "The Whelenizer." However, I took it out of the line-up this year after 10 seasons' duty. In those 10 years, I had taken more deer with that rifle than any other. KYHillChick conspired with other Campfire members to acquire this as a Saint Hubert's Day present for me a decade ago.



First off: why the high body count? Simple, after bagging a nice buck, I usually brought out the Whelenizer to top off the freezer. It accounted for 1-2 doe every year. Slam, Bang, Done. Also, the stock on the 7600 was a little beat-up when I got the rifle. As a result, I used it as my designated "Rain Gun"-- I wasn't hurting anything.

So why did I put it away? I had acquired 2 new rifles, one in '06 and another in 25-06. I wanted to get them blooded. The Whelenizer was getting to be so much of a sure bet, it was time to put it aside.

The cool thing about the Whelenizer is that EVERYONE knew I had that rifle out. I've had complete strangers walk up to me and ask if I had taken a deer that day. It has a very distinctive report even at a mile or more.

The big downsides to the Whelenizer? First off, the magazines. Those mags are very touchy. I've been down to one good working one out of 5 at the end of season. Second is the 35 Whelen is expensive to shoot-- about 2x over a 30-06. Third is the recoil-- I shoot mine at 358 WIN levels with 200 grainers. It still is a lot of work on the shoulder when an '06 will do the same job with less.

My plans for the Whelenizer? I am slowly working my way into casting my own bullets. The Whelenizer is going to be reworked into my first cast lead rifle. I had other projects come up this summer, otherwise it would have already been done. When complete, I will have something that shoots in the 35-REM range.

I bought a 7600 35 Whelen from Grice 6-7 years ago. Mounted a Luepold VX III 2.5 X 8 in quick detach rings on her. With My handloads, 225 gr. Sierra boat tails, 58 gr. R 15, and Win. mag primers it shoots 3 shot clover leafs from the bench at 100 yards. I took a doe on opening day , I leaned the rifle against a tree while gutting the deer and it fell over onto a rock. Put a nice ding in the front bell of the scope. I went to the range to verify zero and didn't touch an 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper at 100 yards. I don't have enough ammo to resight and hunt with. ( no one seems to have any 225 Sierras ). So she'll spend the rest of the season in the safe.

One I had ONCE...is at the bottom of Boeuf River...with a cinder block tied to it!!

Try some 225gr Barnes bullets. My 7600 35W loves them.

I am running 250gr Horny's in this rifle so if you want to try some 225gr Barnes bullets, PM me and we will work something out. I have a couple boxes of them, I think. The Barnes bullets are fantastic on game performers, I am just staying old school with this rifle. I would probably buy and use some 250-275gr round nose or semi spitzers if I could find them, just for fun and nostalgia sake.

I've hunted with this older 760 since the 1970's. It's a genuine tack driver! My scope is a Simmons Aetac featuring 2.8-10X power settings. Good hunting to you.

Sherwood

WOW NOTHING BETTER THEN SITTING BY THE CAMPFIRE AND HEARING ALL THE GREAT STORIES AND EXPERIENCES> YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING A REAL SMILE ON MY FACE> KEEP THE STORIES COMING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HOPE YOUALL HAVE A MEMORABLE CHRISTMAS AND BLESS SOMEONE ALONE THE WAY.

THANKS AGAIN
ABLE

Grice special 7600 carbine in 308. It shoots bug holes with 180 round nose core lokts and 180 gr. federal fusions. I( have a Burris 3X9 timberline scope on it.

This is my first year with a 7600 in 06'. The groups with 165gr corelokts are just under 1" which is plenty for a brush rifle. Unfortunately the second shot will not always be picked up so I may have to try a different clip.

You don't need a scope with BDC lines for this rifle. You need a small, quality variable scope in low or x-low rings.

IN my part of PA , they are called "Amish machine guns"

Hey SC, except for the scope mounts, you have the twin to my .358Win.

I have owned 2 of these in 06 and now would like a 308 with about a 20" tube. Shooting boogers I had, know a guy with a 243 that shoots under 3/4" all day long.

SuperCub, that is a fine looking set-up.

I don't use a Remington pump-gun, but I DO have some short-range scopes.
My favorite scope on my "all-around" rifle, is the Redfield "WideField" 2-7 variable. It is a crosshair model on an FN Mauser .270 AI. I don't believe in shooting at an unwounded animal at more than 350-400 yards so a 2 1/2x to 4X scope sighted about 2" high will work just fine.
I have severals scopes with TKLee dots in them. My Lyman 4X has a 4moa dot, my Weaver K2.5 has a 3moa dot, the Weaver V5 has a 2moa dot, and the K6 has a 1moa dot, but it is mounted on my varmint-calling rifle, a .257 "Bob."
The Lee dot is on a crosshair that is almost invisible, but your subconscious can pick it up. The single dot will allow you to range-estimate in a hurry, in the ranges you would be shooting.
The reason I have so many of the old steel Weavers is that I picked up several with "telephone pole" or 4x4 crosshairs at a good price and sent them in to Lee. I think they are GREAT!
I've read a lot of Jack O'Conner and he seemed to think they were all right.
Have fun,
Gene

Those carbines are handy little rifles, esp if a small scope goes on them. One in 358 would be a great rifle for just about everything where i live.

Over the years, I had a couple 760 rifles cut back to 20" and found I liked that bbl length better than the std 18.5" carbine length.

Thanks .... I've had that 760 Carbine for a looong time. It belonged to my grandfather. Iswapped the original stock out a 7600 stock w/o the with lines and had a thin declerator added.

They are about the only rifle that screams "woods rifle" as much as a Model 94 Winchester, and truth be known, are far more versatile than an M94.

That's coming from a long-time M94 user, but it happens to be the truth.

That's what I did, too. Great minds think alike, I guess!

We're weird!

I know this thread is dated but I carried my carbine all season here in Maine. Ended up hunting 9 1/2 days overall and killed a buck the last Saturday of the season. I'll do some things differently for next year. The 2.5x8 is the least favorite Leupold I own and I will be getting a 1x4 or 1.5x5 for next season. Really don't like the cheap Leupold rings I put on so that will be upgraded also, and plan to play around with a few more loads. I killed my deer at about 20 yards with a single 165gr. factory Core-lokt. While I'm not a huge fan of the 06,and certainly not Core-lokts, everything worked fine and he dropped in his tracks but I want to play a little more with the rifle.

We had snow all season long and I was on my feet for pretty much the entire time I hunted. That little carbine was a joy to carry.

my 35 remington 141 pump

this is my brother's cut down model 14 in 30 remington

we like to call it Dr. Death

It was a good tracking year in VT as well. Snow from beginning to end. Shot my buck hunting the thick stuff on the first Wednesday of the season. 7600 carbine using 180 grain round nose core-lok. One shot, one kill. Love my Leupold 1.5-5.