Looking at trying these in my .270 T3 as my "all-around" load. Deer, Elk, Hogs, etc. Assuming they should work well for about anything I'd shoot with a .270. Any reason not to do this? Any poor experiences with this bullet? I was thinking I couldn't go wrong with this combo.

I think you could do all North America and most of Africa with that load.

Have shot 150s out of my savage 110 for years. Just for whitetails, but it's very dependable and always is a complete pass through. Quarter size exits most of the time.

I've noticed the energy dump isn't the same as a 130 grain NBT. I shoulder shoot alot of deer and the NBT always did more damage but that's by design. The 140 will probably be super similar to the 150s

Thanks for the info guys. I'm going to get a hold of some and see how they shoot. Any loads that you'd recommend?

The barnes vor tx ammo is a little cheaper than federal premium in factory ammo. 140 ttsx is a great load. Are you going factory or do you handload?

IMR 4831 is always a good place to be.

.270 with 140 Partitions.....Peas and carrots.

Google "kicking a dead horse". Try reloader 17.

I should have been more clear early on. I hand-load all of my rifle ammo. My gun shot the 150gr Speer DeepCurls extremely well, but I can no longer find them. Thinking the 140 Partition should make a good replacement. I have some RL17 and IMR 4831. I'll try some of each. Thanks for the info!

And if it won't perk, the 140 Accubond should work nicely.

A 140 AB and 58.5-59 grains of H4831sc is the mother load for buck deer!

If you're interested, MidwayUSA has 277 150gr Speer Deep Curls available. Look under bulk Bullets.

I would and do use the 140gr Accubond in my .270. It's a good bullet for accuracy, retains weight decently on impact, and is pretty aerodynamically slick. I've never had partitions shoot particularly well in my rifles, but i guess there is no arguing the fact that they kill well. I believe i read that Speer has discontinued, or is discontinuing sales of the Deep Curl line. They seemed like good bullets, but I had heard that their plated construction sometimes lead to them having strange, abrupt, non-linear pressure responses to charge increases.

It's hard to go wrong with H4831(sc) for the .270, but I've had great luck with some of the newer magnum powders like RL23, and IMR7977. My current 140 Accubond load uses 7977, it provided the best velocities along with excellent accuracy.

I'd expect the 140 Partition to perform somewhere between the 130 and the 150.

This, I guess...

30 years ago I was sweating the difference between 2 bullets that were 10 gr apart in weight. I shaved the heavier bullet until it had lost 10 grains and was underwhelmed at the size of shavings.

Small weight changes can make a difference if they are manifested in different bullet design or profile.

What I wouldn't do with a .277/130 partition doesn't leave much on the table...

Not the 140 Partition, but I know an elk guide/hunter out West that has used, and will only use the 140 gr swift a frame in his 270 Winchester for elk, it's the only rifle he hunts elk and deer with, I suspect the Nosler would do just as well.

Shooters Pro Shop has the 140 Partitions for $15.00.

All i have ever used in my 270 is a 130 partition at 3150 fps...Three elk with 4 shots, longest at a touch over 300 yards. The mule deer seem to die before the primers even struck! lol

I've used the 130, 140, 150 and 160g Partitions on lots of pigs. Never could see any difference.

The 130 grainers are usually the easiest to find when supply gets limited. Cost a little less too depending on where you buy them.

56g of R17 or 56.5 of H4350 with the 130.

I have been shooting 140 Sierra HPBT's out of my .270 except for elk, that would be a great bullet.. The Partitions would be fine for elk.. Or the Accubond.. Probably what shoots best..

The same experience I've had. Animals were all the same level of dead. I've had similar performance and the same results with the 140 NAB.

Find a good bullet that shoots from a particular rifle well, then go do about anything needing done.

If you line up bullets of the same caliber but different in weight I'm always surprised at how little difference there is in length. Kinda makes me wonder sometimes if there isn't as much difference as we think.

Thanks for the tip. Just ordered some to try. I'll post up after I have the chance to try a few combinations out.

Jim Carmichael loves the 140 Partition out of his .280 Rem.

A do-all load.




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I think if I were locked into 140 grainers I'd take the better bc and (in my rifle anyway) better accuracy of the Accubond.

3050fps with a 140 NAB will do most of Aussie and I'd wager most of N. America too?

Fixed.

They don't make the .270 140 gr. in TTSX, but they should!

I'd like to see the old 140 gr. TBBCs brought back or even a better BC 140 gr. NorthFork.

129 LRX @ 3,100 looks to be a beast...

I have stated this before, but it harder to find a bullet that will not work in a 270.

We have shot critters with bullets weighing 85gr to 150gr.

I have been playing with 160gr NP's and 180gr Woodleigh's. Just have not killed anything but paper with them.

A 140gr NP or AB should be just fine.

Anyone remember the old herters .270 - 130 grain wasp waist sonic boom bullet scientically designed to increase velocity at 400 yards? My brother shot a ton of elk with it.

For some reason, I settled on the 150gr. Nosler partition, for a "do it all" bullet as well...

Which weight have you found most accurate in your rifle? Also, what velocity are you getting with your 150 gr bullets?

I think Jack O ended up that way too....

Well if memory serves me right J OC died before the 140s came along or were popular.

59gr for me.
57gr for the wife and kids.

Well, who'd 'thunk'? < grin>

I feel that the 140 gr is a great compromise with velocity & trajectory in the 270. I used the H 140 BTSP when they first came out. Even at 3000 fps I felt they didn't open up enuff on average WT at fairly close range.

I haven't used them in a long time so I don't know about their construction and performance today.

Knowing the performance of the NP and the AB they would be the cat's "MEOW", imo.

Works for me!

If yer gonna shot a 140, you outta be usin' a 280 !

I'd take the 140 AB with the .496 BC, and it ain't a .284.....

I think that bullet could be sneaky good. Actually in the midst of trying some American Whitetail ammo in mine. If it shoots and the numbers line up, $17/box would be no fuss no muss, one and done, shut the gate, pack your bags, and [bleep].....

Misspelled "fogetaboutit". Man, so sensitive around here....

I will keep my 270s with their 130s, 140s and 150s, thanks.

That 140 load clocks 2860. Plenty good enough!

Nothing wrong with a 280, but I have 270s and 7mm-08s. Any 280 I ever owned was purchased with the sole principle of buying low and selling high.

the hornady vmax are just as good and for the same price u get 100 ,with nosler u get 50

Was not aware Hornady made a .270, 140gr Vmax?

They do make a 140btsp and it's a fine bullet, not as fine as a partition though.

I'm wanting a 150'ish, .545'sh BC ELD-X..

the partitions he is talking about are bts also. no they do make a spritzer in 140 gr,do not believe they did years ago ,thats how long its been since i used nosler. i use hornady,sierra,and speers. no actually its the sierra that does not make a 140 gr spritzer for the 270

The 140 is the compromise bullet for those that can't decide if they should use the 130 or 150.
Fence sitters, tweeners.

You're full of schit too.

Signed,
16 Bore.


P.S. - I like 260's.

A 270 NPT with a boat tail?

130, 140, 150, 160. Go with what shoots the best and don't sweat it. Even the not-so-pointy 160 has a BC of 430-something and can be pushed over 2800 with a couple of powders. Not too much for deer at all, kinda like a 7x57 that went to the gym.

Nut - you are correct - never heard/seen a NP bt.

thomasgajan - what's a "spritzer" ?


Jerry

its what u add to a drink especially when u can not spell but still drink sir know it all,must be such a drag to be perfect. i know its spitzer,but sometimes an r jumps in there when i want a drink

Me too! ME TOO!

....but we're dreaming. We all know the 270 isn't a long range cartridge!

the site has not changed much,i left just before ken howell because of being harassed by people who knew little and had no credentials at all. long range is a matter of ability first,then optics,then velocity and energy. depends on what u are hunting.

I'm not sure if you're referring to my statement, but I wrote it with some sarcasm, hence the smirk.

On a serious note, I agree with you regarding long range.

I guess I forgot to add the smiley emoticon.

I was jokin...ifin you didn't know.

Jerry

Well, it is a drag to be perfect.

Bump for more 140gr info.. 140 Partitions have killed and shot so well in the .260,6.5CM,7mm-08rem that I'm veddy veddy interested in loads/velocity info for the 140NP also.

Boring old gay .270 is slowly growing on me. fk

Has anyone used these yet? I think I can get 3157 fps out of a 24" barrel.

This said, can anyone get the 140 gr. A-Frame or Partition to 3050 FPS out of a 24" barrel? This would have the same ballistics as my 300 win mag with a 180 gr. load at 3050 fps too.

A range pal with a new 270 called yesterday asking for loads. I told him load a 130 Sierra for practice. He said he wanted a Partition to hunt with.

I said I've killed more stuff with a 130 NPT than anything else.He said what about the 140? What's the difference?

I said 10 grains.

And then the guy next to him said "well, the 140 has a higher SD and a higher BC"! Then your drink came out your nose..

I also have killed more big game with 130 partitions then all others combined.
So why am I shooting 130 accubonds now?
They shoot 1/4 in smaller groups, as soon as this box is gone I'm going back to partitions? No reason both kill just fine. Have killed several elk with 130 partitions but this year killed a big cow with the accubond DRT.

I'm almost full circle and back to $20 ammo for the phuqqing thing. We'll see in the AM.

shaq: Thankfully that didn't come up.

If it did I'd ask I'm how much more "in" and "out" do I need ? I can barely recover a 130 from anything.

If he wants to shoot animals at 500 + in a full value monsoon,I can't help him. I guess he should load a 140 AB for that since it seems about as good as it gets in a 270 game bullet for all I know.

I had a box of old 140GKs here and tried them in my 270. They shot great and I ran into a deal another 500 of them. They have worked great on whitetails and will be my 270 bullet for the next few years

factory Federal Fusion 130s

Same here. Seem to be moving to Game kings across the board these days.

This is the one I like. The Accubond 140g. Love them little plastic tips in a hunting round.

Partitions have a long history of performance however.

Dead is dead with all of choices at that speed.

How fast are you people pushing a 140..

Thanks

I understand that! After playing with all the various bullet weights in a 270, I currently have four different bullets all loaded the same.

130gr NBT, Barnes T and TTSX, Hornady GMX. Winchester brass, WLRM primer, and 60gr of H4831sc.

Whenever I acquire a new 270, one of those loads is more than sufficient. So that is how I have simplified my go to hunting loads.

In 25 years of shooting a 270 I recovered very few bullets. A few 130's, but mostly lighter weight bullets or reduced loads.

My bench still has the full compliment of 85gr to 180gr bullets. Lighter weight bullets for reduced recoil, higher BC 150's for long range, and 160's/ 180's because I am a 270 Looney.

The only 140's I happen to have are some NPT's, picked up in a batch bullet purchase.

... You going to be here all night Bob?

The BC on that bullet is pretty handy to 500 since the drop dope (MOA) equals the 5 mph drift dope (inches)



If a fella needs thats kinda stuff...

3152 FPS with 140 accubonds with 24 7/8" shilen barrel,tight chamber, Winchester brass, FED 210 primers, and 57.0 of Reloader 22. Hammer to way out there!

That smells more like a 7 Mag, damnation....

Yep...and its not an unsafe, over max, load. Warm, but not too hot..

https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...onew/1/270_Makeover_x2_-_Complete#UNREAD

Probably all week and then some...

130 NPT. 360+ Bull elk. Yawn.


Truth is all Partitions work on game.

Custom rifle, squared up action, tight smooth Shilen barrel,right throat geometry.

Be curious to see brass life.

I believe you Bob. Do you think if those would have been the 150's, you wouldn't have pictures of recovered bullets? Since you are talking elk ("360+ bull") here, the 150 penetrates a little deeper and is more likely to poke a hole through and through..

Of late I'm using two loads in the 270 Win...
The 130g NPT around 3100fps and the 150g Hot Cor loaded to 2900fps.

Both are using R17 and they're 1moa even on a really bad day.

The 130 NPT shoots just a little flatter but on pigs I have to call it a dead heat on terminal performance. The heavier Hot Cor exits more often believe it or not.

I reckon the 140 NPT would nearly straddle the middle ground. Not a bad place to be. 3000fps is an easy mark.

bsa: I believe some Partitions penetrate deeper than others due to placement of the Partition,taper of the jacket and (like any bullet) how they are built.

Factor in angle of shot,what it hits at what distance,impact velocity etc etc and I think it's almost impossible to say what which one will exit and which one won't,whether it's a 130. 140,or 150. You just never know.

I have a few other 130s plucked from game but they have been few. For the most part it seems a 130 Partition will blow through any animal in the 300-400 pound range with ease. I have no doubt a 140 will do the same thing but I have never seen a reason to change.

If I want a 270 bullet that's "better" than a 130 NPT I load a 130 Bitterroot.

It seem to take big bull elk to consistently stop a 130 NPT from a 270 Winchester. No me but old friends have killed AY moose and grizzlie with them.

Damn nice. Funny how a cartridge designed in 1925 using a bullet designed in 1948, creates so much drama for naysayers.

Did it take two for your bull? Pretty consistant performance.

16: The bull was not mine. My rancher friend from Wyoming killed him a few days after I left that year,and sent me the slugs.

Since I leave ammo for him he thought they were Bitterroots and said they lost a lot of weight (grin). I told him they mast be Partitions because BBC's don't shed weight,or far less than any Nosler expanding bullet at any rate.

Details are a pair of lung shots at 250-300 yards;staggered around a few seconds and collapse. Since I've seen the same reaction from mature bulls with everything from the 270 to the 340 Weatherby, I've concluded bull elk can be pretty phlegmatic.

Any way "which partition" in a given cartridge is not something I dwell too much on. I just choose one and run with it.

Do things halfway right and no animal will get away after a hit with a 130 Partition, that you would have killed with a 140 Partition. It just does not work that way.

People should shoot what they have confidence in but choosing between a 130 and 140 Partition based on some illusion of superiority is a waste of time.

I re-checked velocities and clocked a new batch of brass last week.

140 AB's, CCI 200, 24" Montana.

58 grains of H4831sc made 2970fps(virgin Hornady brass).

58.5 grains H4831sc makes 3020fps(3x fired Nosler brass).

6" horizontal groups at 400 yards in a 10-15mph wind. Vertical was within a couple inches.

Weighed a couple pieces of brass and the Hornady weighs almost the same as the Nosler(Norma).

SamO; I can see Hiaring's Shilen doing those velocities. It's common to see RL22 behave like that.

And I have seen those kinds of results from Douglas, Shilen, Lilja, and other tight spec,smooth buttoned barrels. Just the way it works.Plus 24 7/8", it all adds up sometimes.

It's the barrel, though...not the tight chamber which has almost no effect.

Still when I see a cartridge produce velocities app. 150 fps above what the manuals call for, my antenna goes up to red alert.Especially if RL22 is involved....

Sam, ever use the larger capacity WW brass?

What's your thoughts of it vs. the Hdy if you've used it?

Apples and oranges perhaps... I use new (though vintage yellow box stuff) Winchester brass with the 58 gr H4831SC and the 140 gr TSX out of my 24" Montana and get right at 2950 fps. I did not go any higher as time prior to my hunt did not allow. Since is shoots so well, I will leave well enough alone.

In the 20+ years I've used the 270, I've only ever used WW Brass, which is why I'm curious about the Hdy brass... never used it, but it seems available everywhere.

Brad,
While I haven't used the Hornady brass in 270, it's all I've used in the 7/08. It's good stuff. I'll buy more when a need arises.

Winchester brass is getting to be a real PITA to obtain. i buy it every time I see it, and fortunately I have a lifetime supply of 300 & 375 H&H they no longer make and even though they still make 348 and 300 Savage, I have plenty of the 348, but gave up on the 300 Savage and switched to Hornady with no issues.

Here is my son's first elk from last fall. Roughly a 200 yard shot and it failed to stop three 130gr Barnes TTSX's.

I did some more load testing with the same load and was reaching as high as 3180...warmer day, warmer barrel. So i backed it down to 56.7 and that put me back in the 3140 FPS arena which matches my CDS dial.

As far as Brass life, I have a lifetime supply of 270 brass (1200 new brass) so I am not very worried. Realistically, 3 loading's is probably all I will get.

You say it's not a hot load, but I'd be careful shooting that one on a hot day... Just sayin..

I wasn't worried about you running out of brass.....

I'm more curious about the wisdom of deliberately building loads for which the brass lasts only 3 rounds; and chasing numbers on a CDS dial.

I bet if you ran the 140 AB at a more normal 3000 fps, that you could get the dial to work fine.

But I've done some of this myself, years back running 130's at 3200 fps with RL22 from a 270, so this type of load "work up" is not exactly new. I learned over the years it's not exactly smart either.

If you wanted a 140 well over 3100 fps you should have bought a 270 WSM or 7 Rem Mag.

The first requirement of a hunting load is that it be safe(not redlined). YMMV.

Numberswise the 6" gain in drop, 1" gain in drift @500 is hardly worth the effort. Maybe less than hardly.

I'm glad someone said it...

Brad, I have a couple hundred pieces of WW brass as well. I only have 1x firing on that particular set(loaded with 135 SMK's).


Just weighed a couple empties(WW) and got around 195 grains. The Hornady and Nosler weigh 185 grains.


I had major weight lot to lot variation with Nosler brass and wouldn't buy any again unless it was all the same lot #.


I also chit canned my RCBS sizing die. I fiddled with that thing off and on ever since I bought it and finally ordered a set of Hornady dies for the 270 and 243. Mucho runout improvement with ZERO dicking around.


Depending on the day(moon phase?) I was getting getting .003-.010"(!) runout with the RCBS die. Had to have it set just right or it was terrible.

Spun the Hornady in and made .001" neck runout right off the bat.

I even replaced the decapping stem, tried all the trick and would still get wonky sized case with the RCBS. Not sure what the hell was going on.

Its so simple its complicated. Gotta say I'm taking a much different patth as of late. I'd rather sit alone on a rock, and have it all to myself, than be crowded on a cushion.

Very interesting on your RCBS die with the 270. I'm having the exact same issue with mine. Between sizing and bullet seating, I'm getting up to 0.010" runout.

Do you use both the Hornady sizing and bullet seater die?

My RCBS competition 223 sizer is the only RCBS rifle die I've had that wasnt a piece of schit.

I'm using it with great success so far in 7-08, 308 and 300WM. No complaints.

This also mirrors my experience. I've had better luck with Lee than RCBS. Their competition dies are decent. I have a 223 as well that I use with acceptable results.

Props to Hornady for at least SELLING brass. WW & RP can kiss my brass.

And the RCBS 223 comp sizer has been a jewel. I wrap pipe tape around the threads and do the O ring trick to nudge the shoulder where I want.

Forester all the way after that.

B, my issue was with the sizing die(s). Cases would come out resized but quite a few would have poor neck runout. You'd think you have it set and for whatever reason about one out of every 3 or 4 cases would be crooked as chit.

Hell if I know, not a master reloader but like to have runout under .005".

And the crooked necks always have poor bullet runout as well.

A set of Hornady 243 dies showed up in the mail last night and I just resized some cases.

.001" neck runout without any dicking around, my 243 RCBS dies would always be around .003" up to around .008" on the odd case.

I'm going to order a set for a couple other chamberings and use the RCBS dies for setline sinkers.

The only set I've had really good with was a standard version for 300 WSM.

I need to get me some Hornady dies! That's pretty neat.

Bob, this is the set I ordered.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/728079/hornady-custom-grade-new-dimension-2-die-set-270-winchester


Very recent usage, haven't even fired the reloads yet...
Time will tell how they hold up. Seems like the expander pulls a little harder on the way back through the neck compared to RCBS dies.

The lock ring design is uber.

I initially bought a 3 die set for a 9mm pistol and was sold on the quality. Great value.

Sam thanks. Pretty wild to get .001 run out after FL sizing....for $32 bucks!

Great info!

When I couldn't find powder for my 30/06 or 270, I purchased a box of Fusion for each on my last Elk hunt. If I have to shoot factory, its my favorite box.

Note: I always take a back up rifle. YMMV

Cheers

HaYen

Bob, I haven't seated a bullet yet but can't imagine poor seating, the necks should be fine.
Wife noticed me moving the freshly cleaned brass from the garage into the house and said no, too much beer......grin

Looks like a free box of bullets too. Hell, I might try some for that deal..

Thanks Sam!

I bought a 270 Lee seater last week and will give it a try this weekend.

The best dies I have are Redding. I have 300 WSM and 7 RM and they both produce straight necks out of the resizing operation.