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Posted By: jack1122 Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Can anyone help me with this? I'm trying to sell it in the classifieds, without any luck. Is my price in line?

Priced at $1050.00 shipped

Winchester Model 70 Classic Sporter

Started it's life as a SM but has since had some upgrades.

New SS 26" barrel with less than 25 rounds thru it.

Squared and trued
Pillar and glassed bedded, free floated barrel.
All metal is Teflon coated.

Sitting in a Boyds JRS classic stock with checkering cut in it.

All work was completed by MGArms in Houston TX. http://www.mgarmsinc.com
Posted By: 338Rules Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Wow - sounds like a deal .

Is that even US$ replacement price for the M70 ?
What is SM ?


If you still haven't sold it, Come Hunting in Alberta or Saskatchewan this fall, and we can work something out. ;-)

With the Loonie tanking, a Canajun hunt might be very attractive.
May not like what I'm going to write but,since the rifle has not been sold,the price may be to high.
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
I figured the price is a little to high and it's a little to customized for most people's liking.

Just thought I would see what everyone else thought.
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
SM stands for synthetic matte by the way
My opinion is drop the price till it sells or use it for hunting.
Posted By: 338Rules Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
So it's a CroMoly rcvr that has been teflon coated ?

The pics seem to be quite different colors on the scope.
What generation of 2.5-8x36 is that ? VX-3, VX-III, Vari-X

Better put the price UP
Posted By: Gasman Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Bigger and better pics might help your rifle sell, possibly even at its current price.

Also, you might consider listing just the barreled action at, say, $850 and sell the stock separately.

Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Yes, it's just a blued action with a stainless barrel that has been Teflon coated.


Scope is a VariX III 2.5-8x36 matte finish.


Price won't go down anymore than it is. I'll let it sit in the back of the safe until my kids sell it when I'm gone.


If I could figure out how to load larger pictures to this website i would.

Thanks for the info so far
You won't like this, but I think you will be lucky to get $800. Nothing wrong with the rifle, it's the economy. If it was priced right it would have sold. Nice rifle, but you have to find someone with exactly the same taste as you. Like many things, when you customize you don't get your money back. Applies to guns, cars or motorcycles. Put it back in the safe.
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
I completely agree with it, it's customized and may be a little too custom for most that are just looking for rifle.

Thanks for the input.
Posted By: efw Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Photobucket is the way to go not uploads.

I'd find the price you're fine with and keep bumping it up till the right person comes along.

Gunbroker might help
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Just uploaded all the pictures to photobucket.....

Thank you
Posted By: Pittu Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Just a thought I'll throw out there, your rifle may well be worth what you're asking but for myself a stainless bbl on a blued action just doesn't make sense. To me the advantage of stainless is the "all weather" characteristics and if the receiver is blued, that advantage is moot.

I also agree with someone above that good, close up, in focus pictures sell rifles...

Good luck with the sale
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Better pictures have been added to photobucket with a link to them on the ad.

I agree with you all stainless would have been the way to go but this the action that was available when it was rebuilt.

Posted By: 338Rules Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Is that a new SS Winchester take-off barrel that has been teflon coated, or the original CroMo teflon coated, or ?

The action needs lubing either way.
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
It's a new Winchester take off barrel that was Teflon coated.

I wiped it all dry before taking any pics so there wouldn't be smudges in the pictures.


Thanks,

Jack
Posted By: 338Rules Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Thanks for all the info, I meant that either a stainless, or a CroMo rcvr would require some lube.

The new pics are great, and I do hope you get your $$ because you probably have more than that tied up in it.

Rifle 285 this month, has an article by John Barsness
( MuleDeer here) that pretty well sums up this situation.
The current economic climate doesn't help any.

Elk rifles are seasonal beasts, and there is a good list of improvements assembled there. I especially like the laminated JRS stock with that Teflon dirt ? color.

Wishing you the best of luck. personally, I'd sit on it for a while at your price rather than make drastic price reductions. This cooling off period would of course, also give me the opportunity to contemplate reaming it out to .338-375 Ruger/Campfire or going whole hog, and installing the long magazine and going .340 Bee ! Hmmmm


One last flurry of questions on your build :

Total Round Count ?
Was the original barrel .338Win too. Just curious.

Trigger ? stock winchester I believe, What weight ?

Cheers from the frozen North
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/06/16
Thanks for the info. I'll look into that article. Price is about as low as it's going to be. It'll sit in the back of the safe and the kids can use it one day.

This barrel has less than 20 rounds in it. The Teflon coat is a dark reddish brown color.

Originally purchased it new in '98 as a .338 wm shot that barrel out and finally replaced it with this one. Original trigger. Original stock was a black synthetic Winchester stock.

Weight as it sits in this stock with the leupold scope on it is 8 lb 15 oz.

Enjoy your snow!
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
May not like what I'm going to write but,since the rifle has not been sold,the price may be to high.



The price too high, weight too much, and not saying how it shoots. Why did you only shoot 20 rounds down range.
Originally Posted by Cariboujack
You won't like this, but I think you will be lucky to get $800. Nothing wrong with the rifle, it's the economy. If it was priced right it would have sold. Nice rifle, but you have to find someone with exactly the same taste as you. Like many things, when you customize you don't get your money back. Applies to guns, cars or motorcycles. Put it back in the safe.


It's hard to get what you paid for, for really cheap rifles and customized rifles. That's why I buy good honest rifles that are easy to re-sell. Hint....
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/07/16
Only shot 20 times to break in, due to dads shoulder not accepting the recoil of the gun. Don't really know what it will do as it was never really shot enough to see how well it will shoot.

Yes it does have a lot of customization completed on the gun, at the time dad had all this work done he wanted an all weather big game gun, since then his shoulder has failed him and his body won't let him handle it.

Sorry bsa but, not everyone can afford to shoot top end guns daily. Some of us have to slump it and shoot model 70's.

Thanks for the hint
Originally Posted by jack1122
Only shot 20 times to break in, due to dads shoulder not accepting the recoil of the gun. Don't really know what it will do as it was never really shot enough to see how well it will shoot.

Yes it does have a lot of customization completed on the gun, at the time dad had all this work done he wanted an all weather big game gun, since then his shoulder has failed him and his body won't let him handle it.

Sorry bsa but, not everyone can afford to shoot top end guns daily. Some of us have to slump it and shoot model 70's.

Thanks for the hint


I "slump" it every day, then, with my old model 70's. Good honest rifles are easy to sell. Some guys shy away from custom jobs, but if you find just the right person that wants that exact rifle it should sell. Also remember that one man's opinion of "upgrades" is another guys, "What the fu ck did you do that for????". A John R. Sundra laminated stock is not my idea of an upgrade, when the orginal walnut stock was probably just fine/just as good. An upgraded stock is more in line with a good Mcmillan or Brown Precision.. List it on gunbroker or gunsinternational. You'll get far more people looking at it and it will probably sell. Post a lot of pictures and give as many details as you can. Also, don't be afraid to just sell the barreled action and then sell the "upgraded" stock on ebay or the likes. Good luck with it..
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/07/16
The stock is nothing special.... It's just a simple Boyd's laminate stock that was pillar and glass bedded, with checkering cut in it. I never tried saying the stock was something special at all. We knew before it was being put up here the stock was useless and would make it worth anything extra at all.

I'll just buy it from him and put another barrel in it and let my kids wear the new barrel out shooting at paper.

Thanks for slumming it and shooting those cheap rifles sometimes with the rest of us.
Posted By: 79S Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/07/16
I bought an all original 338 win mag SM model 70 with two stocks the original plastic stock and factory wood stock for $600 bucks... And it's a 5 digit too.. So,,,,,,,,,,,, why would one buy yours for a grand when one can shop around and pick them up for 6 bills
Posted By: 79S Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/07/16
Originally Posted by jack1122
The stock is nothing special.... It's just a simple Boyd's laminate stock that was pillar and glass bedded, with checkering cut in it. I never tried saying the stock was something special at all. We knew before it was being put up here the stock was useless and would make it worth anything extra at all.

I'll just buy it from him and put another barrel in it and let my kids wear the new barrel out shooting at paper.

Thanks for slumming it and shooting those cheap rifles sometimes with the rest of us.


I have an original synthetic stock for your model 70 if you want it let me know. Surprisingly those synthetic stocks are not too bad...
Posted By: jack1122 Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/07/16
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by jack1122
The stock is nothing special.... It's just a simple Boyd's laminate stock that was pillar and glass bedded, with checkering cut in it. I never tried saying the stock was something special at all. We knew before it was being put up here the stock was useless and would make it worth anything extra at all.

I'll just buy it from him and put another barrel in it and let my kids wear the new barrel out shooting at paper.

Thanks for slumming it and shooting those cheap rifles sometimes with the rest of us.


I have an original synthetic stock for your model 70 if you want it let me know. Surprisingly those synthetic stocks are not too bad...


Thanks but I have a synthetic stock for it already.....

Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by jack1122
The stock is nothing special.... It's just a simple Boyd's laminate stock that was pillar and glass bedded, with checkering cut in it. I never tried saying the stock was something special at all. We knew before it was being put up here the stock was useless and would make it worth anything extra at all.

I'll just buy it from him and put another barrel in it and let my kids wear the new barrel out shooting at paper.

Thanks for slumming it and shooting those cheap rifles sometimes with the rest of us.


I have an original synthetic stock for your model 70 if you want it let me know. Surprisingly those synthetic stocks are not too bad...


They are really not too bad when you glass bed them right too huh John... grin
Posted By: 79S Re: Value of a mdl 70 338 wm - 02/07/16
Originally Posted by bsa1917hunter
Originally Posted by 79S
Originally Posted by jack1122
The stock is nothing special.... It's just a simple Boyd's laminate stock that was pillar and glass bedded, with checkering cut in it. I never tried saying the stock was something special at all. We knew before it was being put up here the stock was useless and would make it worth anything extra at all.

I'll just buy it from him and put another barrel in it and let my kids wear the new barrel out shooting at paper.

Thanks for slumming it and shooting those cheap rifles sometimes with the rest of us.


I have an original synthetic stock for your model 70 if you want it let me know. Surprisingly those synthetic stocks are not too bad...


They are really not too bad when you glass bed them right too huh John... grin


Pretty good shooters too..
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