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Posted By: ingwe Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
A Remington Stainless Model Seven in .223
They have a 1 in 9 twist and some potential..


Feedback please....




Love and kisses, Poobs
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
"played with" as in a Lone Wolf stock, Jewell trigger, Brux 7 twist .22-204?

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DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
No. Played with the plain vanilla factory version....



You just had to bring up the .22-204 while Im still sitting on a ton of 2323AI stuff..... blush
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Did you shoot the .223 Barrel before you took it off?
Posted By: Higginez Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
1-9" is a concession, not potential....

1-8" is where things start gettin good Poobs.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
I realize that 1 in 8 is where nothing goes wrong....but Ive got a 1 in 9 in a deuce and it digests everything I put in it, cause I have no intention of shooting heavier that 65 grainers.

My 1 in 8 is certainly the "go to" rifle though...I must admit.
Posted By: Wrangler13 Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
I have one of the current production. It is grouping my standard 55 nosler ballistic tip load right at 1". The 62 ttsx not so much. I am going to have work up a new load with those they are more at 3" groups. Overall quality of the rifle is good.
Posted By: Higginez Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
I realize that 1 in 8 is where nothing goes wrong....but Ive got a 1 in 9 in a deuce and it digests everything I put in it, cause I have no intention of shooting heavier that 65 grainers.

My 1 in 8 is certainly the "go to" rifle though...I must admit.


If you are ok with a 1-9" and want a sleek, light rifle, the Montana has it beat in spades.

Plus, all your friends would finally think you are cool. wink
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
Did you shoot the .223 Barrel before you took it off?

Yeah, it shot great... wink

But, a Loony is a Loony. It doesn't have to make sense... blush

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by ingwe
I realize that 1 in 8 is where nothing goes wrong....but Ive got a 1 in 9 in a deuce and it digests everything I put in it, cause I have no intention of shooting heavier that 65 grainers.

My 1 in 8 is certainly the "go to" rifle though...I must admit.


If you are ok with a 1-9" and want a sleek, light rifle, the Montana has it beat in spades.

Plus, all your friends would finally think you are cool. wink

laugh

Now that was mean... grin

Even if it's true... blush

ESPECIALLY if it's true... shocked

DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Higbean


If you are ok with a 1-9" and want a sleek, light rifle, the Montana has it beat in spades.

Plus, all your friends would finally think you are cool. wink



I have an aversion to Kimber rifles that runs deep into my very core. So that aint happening....
What about a Interarms Mini Mauser?
Posted By: barm Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Ingwe,

I have one and I have it ready to go to the range. I am hoping to take it one day this week or next. The wife and I just had a baby three weeks ago and I have struggled to find the time.
Posted By: kingston Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
"played with" as in a Lone Wolf stock, Jewell trigger, Brux 7 twist .22-204?

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DF


WTF is a.22-204? (ATDM) Almost Triple Deuce Mag? Not to be confused with the MDATM... Is it fancy speak for .223?
Posted By: EdM Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
I realize that 1 in 8 is where nothing goes wrong....but Ive got a 1 in 9 in a deuce and it digests everything I put in it, cause I have no intention of shooting heavier that 65 grainers.

My 1 in 8 is certainly the "go to" rifle though...I must admit.


I bet it won't spin them at 2200' below sea level.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Ed...I checked them out according to the Berger spin calculator JB turned me on to...they should work fine even in Texas..


Meaning you'll see the little #1 on the next pig hunt...



If it aint raining. grin
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by barm
Ingwe,

I have one and I have it ready to go to the range. I am hoping to take it one day this week or next. The wife and I just had a baby three weeks ago and I have struggled to find the time.



If you just had a baby, then you don't have time!

Just send the little rifle to me for evaluation..... whistle
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ingwe
Did you shoot the .223 Barrel before you took it off?

Yeah, it shot great... wink

But, a Loony is a Loony. It doesn't have to make sense... blush

DF



Preaching to the choir brother....
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
"played with" as in a Lone Wolf stock, Jewell trigger, Brux 7 twist .22-204?

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DF


WTF is a.22-204? (ATDM) Almost Triple Deuce Mag? Not to be confused with the MDATM... Is it fancy speak for .223?

Sorta, maybe... smile

Actually tripple duce on steroids... wink

The .204 opened to .224. Not too different from the .222 Rem Mag ballistically, but don't tell hard core .22-204 advocates those two are similar... shocked

Better brass available, very easy to convert .204 to .22-204. Fast twist, of course, is the secret. Does great with heavier bullets, like 75 gr. A-Max/SSII's at around 3K. Try that in a .222 RM... shocked

DF

Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
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.223, .22-204, 22-250


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.223, .22-204 with 75 gr. Berger.

DF

Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
What about a Interarms Mini Mauser?

Another option along those lines is the CZ. This one is a .22 Hornet, but they look the same in .223. This is a very nice rifle, well made. The clip extends a bit, this one has a single shot adapter for range use.

DF

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Yup,a CZ would another great choice.
http://cz-usa.com/product/cz-527-m1-american-223-rem-flush-mount-magazine/
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
I saw that flush mag set up.

I finally settled on this scope mount set up. It's actually lower than the others, using Weaver low rings. With the new M1 bolt handle, it clears the scope eyepiece nicely and I get good cheek weld.

DF

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Nice. cool
Posted By: Higginez Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
What about a Interarms Mini Mauser?

Another option along those lines is the CZ. This one is a .22 Hornet, but they look the same in .223. This is a very nice rifle, well made. The clip extends a bit, this one has a single shot adapter for range use.

DF

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Those rings are killing me man.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
What about a Interarms Mini Mauser?

Another option along those lines is the CZ. This one is a .22 Hornet, but they look the same in .223. This is a very nice rifle, well made. The clip extends a bit, this one has a single shot adapter for range use.

DF

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Those rings are killing me man.

grin

I'll make you a good deal on them, as I'm using the other set up...

DF
Posted By: fredIII Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
How close to 22-250 is the 22-204 running.
Posted By: kingston Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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.223, .22-204, 22-250


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.223, .22-204 with 75 gr. Berger.

DF



Thanks DF, what's the COAL, 2.40" or so?
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by fredIII
How close to 22-250 is the 22-204 running.

About 200+ fps behind.

The .22-204 will push a 75 gr. bullet at 3K, full out. The 75 VLD at 2,977 av. over 27.4 gr. Varget and the 77 gr Scenar at nearly 3K over 26.5 Vv 140 grouped sub half inch, the Scenar, .31", three shot group. Not that easy to do, consistently, with a very light rifle.

The .22-250 (an 8 twist 22" Shilen/Mohawk) will push an 80 gr. Amax at 3K over 35 gr. H-4350 into .4", three shot group; the 75 Amax at 3,200 fps over 38.1 gr Superperformance and 35 gr Big Game grouped around .6". I did shoot 39 gr. SPF with good results, no pressure signs. The 80 gr. is the tightest shooting of the three in this gun.

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by kingston
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
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.223, .22-204, 22-250


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.223, .22-204 with 75 gr. Berger.

DF



Thanks DF, what's the COAL, 2.40" or so?

Depends on the bullet.

The 75 Amax COAL with .02" jump is 2.54", the 75 SSII, same jump, is 2.44".

COAL is a issue with the .22-204. With the Remington SA, I knocked out the mag spacer, JB Welded a 1/4" piece of aluminum stock at the rear of the box, giving a mag box length of 2.52" (2.82"-.25"). I took a .308 follower, filed it to fit the narrow .223 box and shortened it to accommodate 2.52". Works great, smooth feeding.

Don't know about the Mini Mauser or CZ. The .204 uses lighter, shorter bullets compared to 75 gr. Amax, so no COAL problem in a .204 Mini or CZ. Don't know how hard they'd be to adapt to the longer .22-204 round. I feel sure the Rem would be easier to work with.

You think we chasing rabbits on the Poobah's thread...?? blush

He did ask if anybody was "playing with" a .223 M-7, so maybe it sorta relates... wink

DF
Posted By: fredIII Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Thanks for the info I have a hole between 223 and 22-250 that needs filled that may just be the ticket.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by fredIII
Thanks for the info I have a hole between 223 and 22-250 that needs filled that may just be the ticket.

Check with Ingwe.

He may have some CHEAP .223AI gear he's trying to move... laugh

DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
What about a Interarms Mini Mauser?

Another option along those lines is the CZ. This one is a .22 Hornet, but they look the same in .223. This is a very nice rifle, well made. The clip extends a bit, this one has a single shot adapter for range use.

DF

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Those rings are killing me man.

grin

I'll make you a good deal on them, as I'm using the other set up...

DF



Typical Campfire...


ask about a Reminghton Model seven and get the goods on two totally different rifles...... And three different cartridges....
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Ya gotta start thinking "diversity"...

DF
Posted By: Seafire Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/24/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by Higbean
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
What about a Interarms Mini Mauser?

Another option along those lines is the CZ. This one is a .22 Hornet, but they look the same in .223. This is a very nice rifle, well made. The clip extends a bit, this one has a single shot adapter for range use.

DF

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Those rings are killing me man.

grin

I'll make you a good deal on them, as I'm using the other set up...

DF



Typical Campfire...


ask about a Reminghton Model seven and get the goods on two totally different rifles...... And three different cartridges....


Well that is better than what my response was going to be...

by the abbreviated title, I thought you were asking if anyone played with themselves.... I was going to respond about a short little stumpy guy in Craig AK that does... at least according to PM's between his Lab named Hutch, and my Golden Retriever....
You of all people should know better than ask that type of question on here. wink grin
Posted By: toad Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
mine, punched AI by some little shop in Helena. it will stabilize the 75 gr. Amax.

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Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Originally Posted by elkhunternm
You of all people should know better than ask that type of question on here. wink grin

Poobah sorta opened the door on that one... blush

And, he thought I was being bad... shocked

DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Originally Posted by toad
mine, punched AI by some little shop in Helena. it will stabilize the 75 gr. Amax.

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Toad....Is that the factory Bbl?


Interesting...I didn't play with it enough when we were both in that shop... whistle
Posted By: toad Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
yes
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Cool beans. Good to know.

Thanks for the input!
Posted By: toad Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
its a good gun. I'd do it again
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Ive always preferred 700s for some unknown reason, but the more I shoot the Sevens, the better Im liking them...
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ingwe
Did you shoot the .223 Barrel before you took it off?

Yeah, it shot great... wink

But, a Loony is a Loony. It doesn't have to make sense... blush

DF



So I guess this is where I ask: You still got the barrel? whistle
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
I agree, even though Big Stick detests them for some reason. If I could understand Alaskan bush language, maybe I'd know why... blush

They're very compact and efficient actions and seem to shoot about as well as a 700 when set up correctly.

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
Originally Posted by Dirtfarmer
Originally Posted by ingwe
Did you shoot the .223 Barrel before you took it off?

Yeah, it shot great... wink

But, a Loony is a Loony. It doesn't have to make sense... blush

DF



So I guess this is where I ask: You still got the barrel? whistle

laugh

Couldn't help myself... blush

Besides, I wanted a faster twist.

DF
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
But do you still have the barrel?
Posted By: toad Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
IMO, the biggest drawback with the Model Seven is the factory stocks. good stocks make them shine.
Posted By: ingwe Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Yeah...Ive got a Seven Predator and that stock had to go....got a B&C Alaskan for it, but it was too 'chubby' so I miked a Ti and tried to dupe it...feels much better now!



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Posted By: kingston Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
I bought a Seven Predator Mossy Oak Camo in 204 Ruger when they first came out. I couldn't get it to shoot. It went down the road. I blamed the stock, but wasn't going to mess with all that camo.
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Can't remember what I did with it, who ended up with it.

It's been a while... blush

DF
Posted By: Dirtfarmer Re: Anybody Played with.... - 04/25/16
Originally Posted by ingwe
Yeah...Ive got a Seven Predator and that stock had to go....got a B&C Alaskan for it, but it was too 'chubby' so I miked a Ti and tried to dupe it...feels much better now!



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That looks nice, I like it.

DF
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