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Posted By: Ringman .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
Here's the question:

These were fired at 100 yards. The apparent consistent increase in velocity averaged about 20 feet per second for each grain of powder increase. But the last one jumped about 50 feet per second. Should I use 47.5 or 48.0 grains to establish an overall length and checking for accuracy?

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Posted By: bobnob17 Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
I wouldnt take too much notice of the apparent jump.

I'd load 20 at 47.7-ish and shoot four x five-shot groups, measuring speed and accuracy to see what it tells me.

But that's just me. Not a lot of science in my approach.

I suspect with your choice of components you'll find accuracy quickly.
Posted By: GregW Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
You can't shoot it at 100 and get meaningful data...

How many times have you been told that but still do the same thing and ask for the same analysis?

What am I missing here?
Posted By: Ringman Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
GregW,

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You can't shoot it at 100 and get meaningful data...

How many times have you been told that but still do the same thing and ask for the same analysis?


I think you missed the question. I wanted to know about velocity jump. Did you happen to notice the chronograph didn't know how far away the target is and yet it gave me meaningful velocity information? But the other day I read a guy who shoots 1000 yard competition. He does all his load development at 100 yards, not some arbitrary longer range before he goes to 1000 yards with a new rifle or load.

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What am I missing here?


It looks like you missed the question. blush Second, the long ranges were closed and won't be open for a week. frown
Posted By: Ringman Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
bobnob17,

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I wouldnt take too much notice of the apparent jump.

I'd load 20 at 47.7-ish and shoot four x five-shot groups, measuring speed and accuracy to see what it tells me.

But that's just me. Not a lot of science in my approach.

I suspect with your choice of components you'll find accuracy quickly.


Thanks. This is my first go with a .308. I will go with your suggestion.
Posted By: bobnob17 Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
You'll not go wrong with that bullet and powder. I really like H4895 with bullets from 130 to 168g in the 308 Win as well.
Posted By: GregW Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
Originally Posted by Ringman
GregW,

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You can't shoot it at 100 and get meaningful data...

How many times have you been told that but still do the same thing and ask for the same analysis?


I think you missed the question. I wanted to know about velocity jump. Did you happen to notice the chronograph didn't know how far away the target is and yet it gave me meaningful velocity information? But the other day I read a guy who shoots 1000 yard competition. He does all his load development at 100 yards, not some arbitrary longer range before he goes to 1000 yards with a new rifle or load.

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What am I missing here?


It looks like you missed the question. blush Second, the long ranges were closed and won't be open for a week. frown


Good luck chasing your tail -
Posted By: Ringman Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/24/16
GregW,

Thanks. I will keep you posted.
Posted By: barm Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/25/16
Originally Posted by Ringman
Here's the question:

These were fired at 100 yards. The apparent consistent increase in velocity averaged about 20 feet per second for each grain of powder increase. But the last one jumped about 50 feet per second. Should I use 47.5 or 48.0 grains to establish an overall length and checking for accuracy?

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I shot ladders with my 6mm BR and 7mm BR and your ladder looks like the ones I shot at 300 yards not 100 yards. In my opinion if you have that much vertical spread at 100 yards you have something wrong with your rifle or scope or your rifle hates that bullet. Just my 2 cents.
Posted By: Ringman Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/25/16
barm,

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I shot ladders with my 6mm BR and 7mm BR and your ladder looks like the ones I shot at 300 yards not 100 yards. In my opinion if you have that much vertical spread at 100 yards you have something wrong with your rifle or scope or your rifle hates that bullet. Just my 2 cents.


I wouldn't be surprised if the rifle doesn't like these bullets. I will give it another range session for groups with 47.7.

It became irrelevant because I didn't draw a pronghorn tag. The flat base Hornadys will work for the woods.
Posted By: NVhntr Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/25/16
I would agree with Greg W. and barm.
100 yard ladders are worthless unless all you are looking for is chrono results.
If you want to do load development at 100 yards, you should be using OCW, not ladder.
Originally Posted by NVhntr
I would agree with Greg W. and barm.
100 yard ladders are worthless unless all you are looking for is chrono results.
If you want to do load development at 100 yards, you should be using OCW, not ladder.


I agree with the 3 of you.
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: .308 155 Sierra ladder - 06/25/16
Originally Posted by Ringman

...the other day I read a guy who shoots 1000 yard competition. He does all his load development at 100 yards, not some arbitrary longer range before he goes to 1000 yards with a new rifle or load.


Pretty obvious that you can't or else you wouldn't be asking for opinions on the innanet...

NO ONE I know who shoots F-Class or Short-range Benchrest develop loads @ 100 yards. But then again you're SPECIAL.
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