I've always been a M70 guy and I've been offered a M700 CDL DM stainless in good ole 270. I know nothing about these rifles. Supposedly it was bought brand new 2 years ago and fired 50 times. Guy wants $700. Seems ok, but like I say, I know little about them. What should I expect accuracy and build-wise? I know the sky is the limit when it comes to building them and with my OCD, that is probably a bad thing lol. But it may be that damn Pokemon everyone is looking for.

Your choice.

I personally would rather brush my teeth with a chainsaw.

Turns out it's not stainless, it's cerakoted

I have owned a couple and they work great. I don't get excited about them either. I prefer the Sako or the Weatherby. That said they do cost more, but the older I get the more I believe in "buy once, cry once".

My .280 Remington BDL DM and two separate magazines started throwing loaded round out the port when I tried to chamber. Had to go the Kwik Klip route as a remedy. With a homemade bedding job it does shoot...

I've never had trouble with a 700. Best production rifles I've used. Accuracy always been top drawer .

THIS

Haters gonna hate.


The 700 is my favorite 'platform' Ive got a half dozen of them and shot tens of thousands of rounds through 700s over the years.Safe to say I like them.

I collect Model 70s, but I shoot Remington 700s and Kimbers.

Just sayin'

donsm70

I am not a huge Remington fan, especially of late, but I have never had a problem with the Model 700s I have owned. I have an unmodified 700 SPS 223 that is a half inch gun with its favorite loads.

I've never had an issue with a 700 and the last 2 purchased in the last year have both been shooters.

I would wait and find one without the POS DM.

+1 Utah! If you ever plan to build on it don't get a DBM.

Love 700s, but wouldn't want a DM.

I've never had any issues with my DM M700s. I wish they made one in a Model Seven.

Never had a DM . What's so bad about them.

Personal preference, but I've no use for a DM on a bolt action hunting rifle. It's not needed, and is just something to lose or go bad. Some guys love 'em, I suppose.

Could be wrong, but it's my impression that on some rifles, the feed lips are part of the magazine, which makes the action cheaper to make, but might be a problem when you decide to re-barrel to another cartridge, or change to a fixed mag. If you really want to try a DM, I'd suggest getting a kit for a regular rifle so you can switch back.

I don't like DBM either. Seems a lot here have "never had a problem" with a 700. I will be the only one here that has the balls to say I have had problems with them. The little pos they call an extractor is a joke, the trigger is a joke, J-lock (come the fu ck on) and the safety not locking the bolt is (yeah you guessed it): A joke. With this being said, the older Remington 700's were better than the later ones. Good luck with it..

The extractors work fine. Just like the triggers.

You just have to ignore the idiot. If you read enough of his BS he claims to have had trouble with just about every make.

Except model 70's of course.

Funny, I've got a 70 giving me fits right now.

I personally do not like the BM...at any price. I would wait for an ADL or BDL. There have been several posted in the classifieds for less than $700.

Personally for me if it is built after mid 80's I will pass. Still prefer the older trigger and safety that locks the bolt, problems weren't with the gun but the idiots packing them.

ADL over BDL although I have only owned 1 ADL, like the cleaner look of the bottom of the blind mag.

$700 is pretty steep in these parts unless wearing decent glass.

I have one of the J-lock guns. Damn thing shoots. Maybe I'm lucky. But I threw away the key the day I got it.I'll take a Remmy 700 in any flavor all day. Great rifles, just not the CF favorite. mtmuley

For the most part, BSA and I are on the same page. However, the older Remington Model 700 that I own in .338 Win Mag has been a wonderful rifle for me. It has made 2 trips to Africa as my primary plains game rifle and has taken 30 plus animals. I really don't need it anymore, but just can't bring myself to sell it. Go figure.

I have considered setting it up as my "Texas Hog Rifle", but certainly don't need that kind of fire power.

donsm70

No way in hell I pay $700 for a used 700. Maybe $450..

Remington 700's usually take a little work to get them shooting right but I still wouldn't turn one down for the right price. No way would I pay $700 for a used factory model. When I get one, Its usually stripped down to just the barreled action and put back together with quality parts. Factory Remington's are pretty bad here lately but they can be made into nice guns.

I have a bunch of 700's and they all are shooters! Haters gonna hate!

If looking for a solid hunting rifle with lots of aftermarket options, I've always found it hard to pass up a new or used stainless 700. I often re-stock them with a stiff handle of laminate or fiberglass, tune the trigger to 2-2.5lbs, and proceed to find a good sub-moa load in short order. Not had a bad one yet. I have had a few 700s that benefited from a new crown, but that's about it.

LMAO...

But I hear ya..


To the OP - I'd pass, personally.. Due to price and DBM issues.. Not to mention triggers and detached bolt handles..

Forgot to mention flimsy extractor and a safety that does not lock the bolt...

I wuz tryin' to be tactful and polite..

I have three 700s and I'm happy with them.
I'll admit none of them are factory stock but they aren't much different.
They put the bullets where I want them and kill stuff dead enough they don't know they were shot with a inferior rifle.

I wouldn't pay $700 for a used one unless it was something out of the custom shop.

I actually have two - an older 700 I rebarreled to .358 STA and a newer (well, circa 1990)all-original 700 in .17 Remington.. THAT rifle is just SO much fun to shoot.. Topped with a Leupold Vari-X IIc AO 4x12 any varmint within 300 yards has NO chance..

But - as is typical with 700s with small-faced bolts it nearly always drops the empty casing onto the follower unless the bolt's operated with alacrity. I don't care though - this one's used basically as a single-shot anyway..

I dragged it outta the safe yesterday and set up on the back deck. The damned striped gophers have been getting away with murder lately.. That chit's gonna END..

I own more winchesters than remingtons because I really like them. But when it comes to hunting I take the candidates for the year out to the range and shoot them in hunting positions, and a certain old Remington Classic in 3006 wins every year. I have taken it hunting most every year since 1981. I did have problems with the extractor breaking at first but once that was fixed, no problems trigger or otherwise for at least 30years. . I have looked at the new remingtons and wouldn't buy them.

I have an ADL and a BDL, both made in the eighties. Never had any problems with them and they shoot great. Never owned one with a DM.

Dang, man, you need to buy a LOTTO ticket ----TODAY!!

So most 700 owners should probably go buy lottery tickets😮

That's my takeaway as well but it's poor advice since I play the lottery a couple times a week but I never win even though a 700 has never given me a problem.

And this is yet another reason why 700s are avoided like the plague in Africa...

Except for Harry Selby's glowing report after decades of use of a Remington 721.

I've got five 700s. Ranging from .243 to .338. Not a huge fan of the DBM (only have one, and it's never given me a problem). All shoot quite well, though I have a 30-06 that took some time to find a load it likes. Seems I reach for my 700 in .260 as often as any rifle I own these days. I tend to shoot far more than the average fella. YMMV.

My statement is still accurate..It wasn't a 700...

Ditto! I have owned quite a few Remington rifles over the years and still own several and i've never had any problems what so ever getting a Remington rifle to shoot accurately.
I do agree however that the newer Remington's are not the same quality as the older ones.

The 700 was an improvement. So I can't follow you on that.

In what way?

I own all kinds of rifles...700's, 70's Sakos, Browning, Weatherby, Ruger, Howa,Kimber etc. None are perfect.

I suppose the Army and Marines should tell the hunting experts going to Africa that the 700 won't work in dangerous situations. They've been using it with factory extractor for 40 years.

And I'd bet at our local club there are more rounds fired from 700's in a day than 70's for a year. I appreciate the firing pin blocking safety and locking bolt on the 70 but find it less easily manipulated than the 700 or Sako when hunting. I use older pre 82 700 actions with locking bolt to build.

To each his own but I'm using more 700's or Sakos the past several seasons.

All of mine (4) are very accurate.

Never had any problems with them.

If you define improvement as skipping steps, using cheaper materials (such as sheet metal extractors, brazed on bolt handles, safeties that don't lock the bolt, not to mention the fact it is an unreliable safety), then "improvement" in this case would be accurate.

What's the big hang up about the bolt not being locked while the safety is on?

Some guys don't want a chance of the bolt opening while they're hiking or stalking thru the woods so they prefer the safty to lock the bolt down. I prefer for the bolt to unlock with the safety on for unloading.

Hence, that is why GOD created Model 70s.

Yup, also Ruger MkIIs, Hawkeyes, etc.

I also like the ones that lift the sear away from the trigger in the locked position.

Exactly. And what he's apparently not privy to is the 700 was made for over 20 years with a locking bolt.

I can understand that. I like my non-locking M700, too.


I love my push fed M70. Although, I don't think I've ever put the safety in the lock position.

And they removed that as a cost-cutting measure.

And the 721 has a brazed on bolt handle as well, no?

No idea.

Possibility of a misfire for one thing.

I had a 721 and I'm pretty sure it had a brazed on bolt handle. And if the extractors were any better at all it's moot because you can't get a replacement if it does break but it's easy to get a 700 extractor. Also whatever is a stamped part on a 700 also is stamped on a 721.

I would do a DBM rifle as a tactical shooter. i would also swap out the the trigger.

HaYen

Have had 700/70/77/Xbolt/336/1895/M94/RAR rifles. Some in several different models. All failed at some point or another in functioning test except for the NH 6.5 Swede Featherweight, the Xbolt .270 and the 336 made by Remington. Would like to find an old Sako but they are rare in my neighborhood.

Bingo!

And in a Model 70 you can do BOTH, merely by selecting the middle position on the safety. With a non-locking bolt safety, the bolt can be easily snagged whilst hunting and have the round drop out. The bolt used to lock on 700s but as a CHEAPER version, they eliminated that.

I just bought another 700.

True Story

Love the 700 but the rifle mentioned in the OP would have no appeal to me at all.




Travis

I expect this sort of rhetoric from savage99 - not from guys that actually hunt.

You're such a "rifle slut."

I never had that happen. Ever.

Its worse than you think....details later...

So,you have passed me in the "rifle slut" category?

Yes...easily...but I can't divulge the details just yet.Suffice it to say this last purchase may be considered by some to be...shall we say....'flamboyant'....

"Flamboyant" huh,well then I'm waiting for the details with abated breath!

Ask around, been reported here a few times. As to actually hunting and before the usual suspects chime in, I mostly PAY to hunt!

Do tell. Enquiring minds want to know.....

Did any large, spotted cats die to create this flamboyance?

Notin. They're fine.