Found an awesome load for this Bullet in my Creed. Wanted to hear about how it performed on game. Thinking about running it for my Wy and Texas trips this yr. I know Scenarshooter sure has some awesome luck with it but wanted to see some other members results.


Thanks Roy

I’m using that combo for Antelope and Deer this year, if they kill half as good as they shoot, I’ll be happy. Very accurate load.

I can’t believe know one has asked this question before....

For your viewing pleasure....

Deceased via Scenar thread.....

Thanks Dogshooter!


Roy

I need to try me some of these bullets one day in my creedmoor rifles...

They sure do work well in my Swede over MRP.

DF

You mean Creed, right?

I got a story to tell you guys about some Hornady ELD-match bullets coming apart in the Creed here recently... Bad lot or something. Thinking about trying the scenars.....

That Savage barrel must be one cobbly son-gun to tear those bullets up like that!

Ha ha.. Yeah, mathman would agree with you there..

Creed prefers 123 Scenar over Varget.

Swede prefers 139 Scenar and 155 Mega. It’s a Lapua snob and in Lapua brass.

DF

Ha ha.. Yeah, my swede likes that Lapua brass too....

My tikka T3x loves RL26 and the 139. Well under 1/2” moa. ES of 6 with 4 of 5 shots being same velocity. That was new brass. Will load and shoot a 10 round group to check accuracy and ES again. Then will see how fire formed brass does.


Roy

Thanks for that info. Haven’t tried that combo but have the components.

DF

DF. For any load specifics Pm me.


Roy

PM sent.

Thanks,

DF

Care to share your load?

He did with a PM.

DF

RTSJ
I’ve used if successfully on Roe, Boar, Red Deer & Elk.
90% exit from 50 yds to over 500 yds, and all one-shot kills.
Very accurate bullet & easy to load for.
My rifle gets 2840 fps with ~42.5 gr of Re17 & BR2 primers.
Excellent all-round choice for hunting!

Creed with 123 Scenar out of a Shilen SS barrel.

DF

I have killed 2 elk with that bullet out of my 260.

Anyone shooting the 139 Scenar in a 6.5 PRC care to share the load. I shot some today with RL26 and hit pressure before the expected velocity. Seems around 3000 FPS is all I can get before I get ejector marks and swipes. The good news is it shot the 3000 FPS load into one ragged hole.

C.A. Mesa 24”
Hornady brass
CCI br2
56 gr RL26
3000 ish FPS

139 group

Hornady brass...
CCI 250s....
54.3 grs of H4350...
2.390 BTO (.150 FB vs SAAMI .180)...
2945 out of a 18” suppressed Bart 2B....

So I guess 3000 isn’t too bad of a place to be. I’ve seen guys reporting form 3075-3100 in 24” barrels so I was a little surprised. I get 2990 with factory 143 ELDX’s so I expected mid to high 3000’s with RL26.

Why are there so many people so anxious to use match bullets for big game hunting when there are proven game bullets available? Is this due to the long range game shooting craze? G

Yeah, that and they are finding out they kill stuff just as dead as "hunting" bullets.

I found the 139 Scenar performs like a hunting bullet. Better than some in fact.

Why are so may against killing with proven match bullets?

x2

and the 150grn 7mm Scenar and the 155grn .308 Scenar


David

Absolutely....

But with at least a couple hundred dead critters to that Scenar alone, I may still be guessing.

In some cases, quicker...

DF

I haven't tried the Scenar yet, but the 147 ELDM nasty old target bullet slaps the snot out of deer and antelope.

I've killed deer and hogs with my 6.5 Creedmoor using Eld-x, Berger, and Scenar bullets.
I like bullets that exit, and so far the 139 Scenar is the only one that has. It is a sample of 1, but I will be using them again with confidence.

And, the "X" bullet is reportedly for hunting, the ELDM 140 and 147 are match bullets. I've read accounts where it was thought the "M" version killed WT's and other such animals as well if not faster than the "X" version.

Scenar jackets are thin. I think their lead allow must be a bit harder than some (such as the VLD) for them to perform like they do.

DF

I had lots of confidence in the AMax, in 6.5 and 7mm. I thought the EldX was going to be the same, but instead it acted like the SST: very explosive. I have recovered every one I have shot at an animal, and in none of the four cases were the core and jacket together. I have some EldM that I am going to try.
The Scenar acted more like the old AMax in my first experience with it.

So this is just the plain ol Lapua "Scenar" 139gr, no "hunting designation" on the box or anything?

Plain old Scenar. I tested them in wet (damp) paper and they performed better than some “hunting” bullets. I shot a mule deer buck with one and it performed perfectly.

And they hold up on big hogs too?

Kills em goodly....

Rumor has it... they penetrate “bone” pretty well too...

PS.... this pack is killing me!

Did you even open the Scenar thread before asking that question?

I know all sorts of match bullets will kill things; just like any cup and core bullet. If I'm looking for a bullet to use in any of my 6.5mm hunting rifles, the Scenar, Matchking, A-max, or Berger VLD, don't even make the list of possibles. I've shot thousands of them in match rifles but none in the hunting rifles. I've got a shelf with Nosler Partitions and hunting bullets from Speer, Sierra, Hornady, and Norma. All of these work sufficiently well that I've never felt inclined to load up some Scenars. GD

Simple answer.

They work. And not necessarily confined to LR.

DF

I worked up a match load with the 139gr scenar, and proceeded to win the only two factory gun matches I entered it in. I'm using the rest of those loaded rds to deer hunt this yr. Only shot one so far, but they worked as well as any bullet I've shot a deer with! My only complaint is it made my deer meat tough. Must be because it wasn't a hunting bullet.... or maybe it was because all of them go into the same hole on targets.

Hi @RTSJ,

I am looking for a nice load for my 6.5 Creedmoor using the 139gr Scenar. It is a Howa 1500 in an APC Chassis with a 24" barrel. I am using Lapua small primer brass with Hodgdon H4350. Any starting loads or info would be greatly appreciated. I just bought a silencer as well, so I don't know if that would make a huge difference.

Id be surprised if you didn’t find your best accuracy around 40.8gr.

John

I was thinking 40.5. ha ha..

That's the best kind for sure. Too bad one of the guys on my squad last Saturday didn't have his trained to do that.. To be fair though, I saw that guy put a clean cold bore shot on a milk jug at 800 yards last February, with that bullet, so they do shoot well... Just not well enough last Weekend..

Actually, 41.5 but that's with Hornady brass. With Lapua brass, 40.5 or 40.8 should be perfection

No they've decided to refer to the Swede as the Swedemoor hoping to revitalize sales!

Swedemoor. Has a certain ring to it.

Should make it shoot even better.

Ha!

DF

Ha ha

JZ is today's winner for best "gun pun".

Is anyone loading these in 6.5x47L?

It’s stacking the 123s @ 2850 with Varget, (could push more) did fine on deer.

I’m curious what the x47 case could push the 139s.

http://accurateshooter.net/pix/65loadv4big.jpg

Thanks!

6.5x47 is so close to the 6.5 Creed, I don't see much difference, at least from my point of view.

I think one will do about what the other one will do with 123's and 139's (most others as well).

The 6.5x47 advantage is splitting hairs, IMO.

I have a great Creed, shoots 123's sub half inch, 139's almost as good.

Creed and Swede are my two 6.5's and they scratch the 6.5 itch pretty well.

But, I'm not into BR or LR target shooting, just hunting.

DF

6.5 PRC Load
139 Lapua Scenar
58.8 grains of Retumbo
Federal Gold Metal Match primer
Hornady brass

3075 fps

Rifle is a GA Precision Custom
Load is a la Fattop_Johnny, Master Handloader!

Good to know. Gonna give it a go.

Always wanted a 6.5x47 lapua, then the creed came along...easy button.

Nice! Is that load compressed?

Not sure, I will find out from John.