A pard is wanting one with remote operation, which one is the "one" ? FoxPro?

Thanks in advance,

MtnHtr

My vote is the Foxpro. If you're interested, I'd suggest you call Mike Dillon at Foxpro and talk to him about their refurbished units. I just recently purchased a refurbished 532B w/remote at about $150.00 savings when compared to a new unit. My cost was $368.00 shipped, which included $10.00 shipping, and a few bucks extra for Randy Anderson sounds.

My Foxpro was in perfect condition and works fantastic. I killed two coyotes with it on the first outing last Monday and called in my first ever double yesterday. I choked and didn't kill either, but it sure was exciting.

Take care.

FoxPro---game over!

Dogz

I'm in the market for one too and have come to the conclusion the Fox Pro is the one. I'm thinking christmas <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Being able to control the caller from a good distance away must be the cat's ass for putting a thump on an unware coyote/fox. Of course you can still place it next to you for some of those in your lap experiences.

Okay, I'm fowarding the FoxPro info to my friend. Now, which model? 416B or 532 or? I know the long range remote option is a must.

Thanks again,

MtnHtr

The best Digital caller on the market is the Wildlife Technologies caller. It is tops in quality of sound, audio quality, volume and range of remote. There is no comparison with ANY other caller on the market, and until someone else puts up $1.8 million dollars to collect a studio quality sound library, there never will be. http://www.wildlifetech.com/pages/home.htm

I have both the Foxpro and Loudmouth and think the Loudmouth is a MUCH better unit.

Western Rivers Predation MP3 Game Caller

Look at Cabela's

Hunter's buddy caller

I would not want to do buisness with Wildlife Technologies. I remember that the owner did some irrational and unprofession things a few years back. I got a foxpro.

I am thinking that you could work up a pretty good setup with:

$50 MP3 player to play calls.

$20 FRS radios for wireless broadcast of calls

$20 External speaker and amplifier to blast out the sound.

Conrad

Conrad, I have been thinking about getting an Ipod for audio books. Your post re a wireless predator call may be the final straw to make me reach for the plastic!
I have had very bad luck with the small MP3 players that Audible.com sells. Can you offer anymore details re how you would put such a system together?Any idea re range of FM broadcast ect... Best place to buy??
Thanks,
John

my partner has a wildlife technologies caller with about a zillion sound board.... he prefers my foxpro with 8 sounds.......

the WT caller is a real nice unit with a reliable remote controller. it's heavy, bulky and expensive... and it doesn't work any better than the foxpro.....

seems like coyotes are not audiophiles... i once saw one respond vigorously to a squeaky truck door..... john w

I have a good buddy, Pat Sinclair, currently hunting out of Glasgow, Montana, who has been a Montana Government Hunter for many years. Pat makes his living by killing problem animals, mostly coyotes and mountain lions, in his NE Montana area.

A few years ago, Pat attended the annual meeting/dinner of all of the Montana Government Hunters. One question was on his mind; who makes the best, longest-lived, bulletproof electronic predator caller.

In polling all of his fellow Government Hunters, the winner, with about 98% of the vote, was FOX PRO

Bear in mind that these guys make their living calling and killing problem animals. They do it five days a week (In Pat's case, seven days a week; he loves it) and their units get a hundred times the use that we, as casual predator hunters, would give it. And these guys probably use a call in the worst of weather and conditions.

It's pretty obvious that the Fox Pro had won a lot of friends among these grizzled, hard-hunting men. Even more obvious is the fact that the Government Hunters have no commercial interest; they just use products that freakin' work.

Pat was amazed. His first act, after returning home, was to order a new Fox Pro. He loves it.

And my first act, after learning this from Pat, was to order a new Fox Pro. Please bear in mind that I already had two electronic callers when I paid retail for a Fox Pro.

I've used the Fox Pro for a couple of years now; I simply love the small size, the range of the wireless controller and the fabulous sound. I've killed many coyotes over it (lots of pairs) and it is my very favorite electronic caller.

Anyway, that is my experience.

Steve

Steve
I just got my first E-Caller, a FOXPRO 416 with the new long range remote........Today was the first day for it in the field......Didn't call a damn thing........Last stand I pulled out my trusty mouth call to prove the E-Caller wrong......Nothing... Guess it was just a bad day to call......Might be that it is damn cold and a high barometer......Will be trying again first light in the morning.......Just wonder if you have any special technique using the electronic caller??? Z

Try this:

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X is the foxpro out in the field
C is the caller hidden in brush/tree
Distance from X to C is 50-100 yards.

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Pat's a heck of a lot better than I am at it. After all, that's what he does for a loving. He has a siren on his truck and "howls" maybe every half mile. When he gets a response, he waits a few minutes, just in case the coyote comes charging in, and then sets up in the direction of the response.

He says that you cant kill coyotes where they don't exist <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />and that there are total voids in their territories. Better to call where dogs are than where they aren't. Makes sense.

The comment I made about the coyote responding and charging to the siren: I killed a really big male coyote with Pat one day near Melstone, Montana. We were cruising the two-tracks in teh back-country of the Hougen Ranch, just letting go with the siren every once in a while. At one of the stops, I was ready with the .223 Ackley and Pat cut loose AAARRRRROOOOO. Damned if the big dog didn't charge out of the brush and run across the flat in front of us.

He looked back once, twice and a third time. Then, he stopped for a half-second...just enough for me to get a 40-grain Ballistic on its way and through both lungs.

The gorgeous tubed-hide graces our fireplace.

Anyway, howling is a good way to find coyotes. Then, if they don't charge in, set up close to where you heard a response.

I gotta put one of those cop sirens in my truck. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Hope this helps,

Steve

Steve, got a little more confidence in the FoxPro E-Caller after today. Was able to call one in on the last stand of the day. She came in fast and died hard......Still got a ways to go to catch up with the old Critr Calls.........

I just finished building my own Digital Electronic Caller today. Actually this isn't the first one I have built, got talked out of the last couple I did over the years.

To start with I used a Rio 600 MP3 Player I picked up off of E-Bay CHEAP. I had the sounds already. A couple years ago a buddy and I bought a few Johnny Stewart Calling CD's, recorded the tracks we wanted to Gold Wave Sound Editing Software and isolated ONE sound Loop from each sound and burnt these tracks to a CD. It is a simple matter of then downloading these sounds to the MP3 Player.

Next up a Speco SPC-5 PA Speaker (this is the best sounding PA Speaker I have found) was mounted in the bottom of an insulated Coffee Mug (flush with the end of the Coffee Mug, after cutting the bottom out of course). I then removed the Circut Board from a Radio Shack Mini Amp / Speaker and mounted it in the Coffee Mug with it wired through a seperate Switch and Indicator Light (the light is so I do not accidently leave the amp on when not in use). After this was done it was a simple matter to plug the speaker into the Radio Shack Mini Amp and a Patch Cord between the MP3 Player and the Radio Shack Mini Amp.

That was about the extent of it. I have 14 tracks on the MP3 Player, and they vary in length from a few Coyote Howls to 1 mnute of Distress sounds. If I want continous play I enable the repeat track function on the MP3 Player. These are the sounds I have on my MP3 Player.

1 - Coyote Locator
2 - Coyote Pup Distress
3 - Despirate Cries / Cottontail
4 - High Pitched Cottontail
5 - Cannine Puppies
6 - Distressed Housecat
7 - Meadowlark Distress
8 - Squealing Woodpecker
9 - Fawn Bleating
10 - Rodent Distress
11 - Coyote / Grey Fox Fight
12 - Coywolf Barks / Howls
13 - Lone Howl Locator
14 - Lone Coyote Challange

I have a total of $70.00 invested in this caller at this time, not counting the cost of the Johnny Stewart Calling CD's we purchased a couple years ago to get the sounds from. There are also several Calling Sounds available on the net as FREE Downloads at the Western Rivers web site.

As it is now the Rio 600 MP3 Player runs off of a single "AA" Battery, and the Radio Shack Mini Amp runs off of a single 9 Volt Battery. With the Amp and Battery inside of the insulated coffee mug hopefully the insulation will help keep the battery warm. I modified a plastic cell phone holder to hold the MP3 Player to the Coffee Mug. There is room between the holder and the MP3 Player to slip one of those little chemical hand warmer packs to help keep this battery warm also in cold weather.

However I do plan on wiring in an Azden Wireless Remote to it in the future making it wireless. The Azden is a Wireless Remote Transmitter and Receiver designed for use with Camcorders, and just happens to work quite well for a wireless remote for an Electronic Caller. (I put an Azden together with a Johnny Stewart Preymaster Caller the other night for a friend, and it's range was right at 200 yards before it started cutting out). Both the Azden Receiver and Transmitter use their own 9 volt Batteries so that will add 2 more batteries to the total when I am finished.

The thing I like about making my own caller is if something breaks or wears out I can replace any part of it myself without having to send it anywhere to be repaired. It also makes for an interesting project in designing how I am going to wittle away at the coffee mug to get everything to fit and in the location I want it in.

Larry

Larry, once you get the Azden mic/receivers, you won't need the RS mini amp. The Azden serves as an amplifier and the unit is more than loud enough. You CAN use the RS amp, but it sure isn't necessary. MI VHNTR

MI VHNTR Thanks for the info. Just last week I hooked up an Azden Wireless Remote to a fellows JS Preymaster Caller and with the Azden we lost about 50% of the volume it had when it was hard wired. I was super puzzled by this as everyone else has said the same thing you have stated. However we did add the RS Mini Amp and then it had more volume than when it was hard wired.

Not to sure what to think about the Azden / Preymaster.

Larry

Larry, I've read about different results with the Azden/Preymaster setup. Since I don't have one, I can't explain it either. I just use an MP3 player with my setup and it's been just fine. Here's a site with some more info regarding the Azden/Preymaster combo. It's be under Electronic Calls thread. Hopefully, it'll help you out.

http://www.predatormastersforums.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi
MI VHNTR

Larry
I have a preymaster-azden set up you need to have a 6 ft cable and a volume control between the preymaster control box and the azden transmitter as it is the antena to send with. I leave my prey master volume control up about 3/4 and use the radio shack volume control to adjust the volume .

It's as loud or louder than the preymaster itself. If I need more volume I hook up a converta caller to the system.

erich

To be honest about it I haven't talked to Jason much since we hooked up his Azden to his Preymaster. Yes we have a 6 foot patch cord between the Azden Transmitter and Preymaster, but no volume control. May have to try that.

I have used several electronic varmint calls in my day, but I must say that FoxPro, especially the Fury is the one I like best. They seem to have the best design, are made very well, and with great sound quality. www.BestforHunting.com www.bestforhunting.com

Wow, you must have had to blow the dust off this thread before replying.