I am new to muzzleloading,, guy who sold it to me told me I could use pellets if I use some powder also? has anyone ever thought about this in the barrel, like 20 grains of powder and 1 50grain pellets? barrel only

reason I bring this up,, is because I have a 45cal inline (never shot) with that rifle came a bunch of 50grain pellets,, the guy who sold me the lyman 50cal said to use some loose powder to help ignite the pellets,,

It makes no sense. Especially, for a flintlock. If you're going to use 20gr of loose powder. Why not make the whole load loose powder?

Flintlocks like real black powder. They'll perform better.

to use the 50grain pellets up,, and I kinda liked the idea of the premeasured pellets,,, question is do you think it work?

I don't think it's the hot tip, but you can give it a try. What are you going to use for powder for the 20gr prime, and what will you use in the pan for powder?

pan ffffg for sure,, since I have to buy some powder (ihave none),, I was thinking blackhorn

Doubt you will ignite that BH209 in a flintlock.

Absolutely, BH 209 will not work as a prime. It needs a hot 209 primer to fire. You should buy BP 3F, and use it as a prime for the main charge, and in the pan.

mauser thanks for the idea,,

yes it will work . its called duplex loading .
but IMO its a waste of time and if your not carful can cause problems with consistancy .
dunp the pellet idea all together and go to a full charge of BP. if you want quicker loading , then use quick loaders with pre measured charges .

I also use 3f for my main charge and prime.
My .62 smoothbore likes 2f for a main charge.
If it hasn't been mentioned already, buy some good quality, real flints. Tom Fuller flints work for me.

will look up tom fuller flints,, evry piece of information,knowledge is appreciated ,,

I'll make it easy for you. I've bought them, and they work good.

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetail.aspx/180/1/FLINTS

My rifle is a Lyman Great Plains Hunter flintlock. What model do you have?
I would use the pellets for fouling shots just to use them up. After you clean you will not want to rely on the first clean barrel shot. I do the same thing with old bullets. I have different versions of bullets that I tested and have decided not to hunt with. They are what I throw down range for fouling rather than my hunting bullets.

tundagriz,, mine is also a great plains (lefty),, paid 300 for it with all the extras(included 5 extra flints, priming brass flint powder holder, powder measures, balls,,)
I have 2 other unshot 50,45 cal cheaper inline muzzleloaders,,
the extras from the great plains gun are missing due to being packed away and moving to another house, it could be yrs before I find them,i will have to purchase all accessories as to all I have found is the pellets and the guns I do have a novice question to ask,, what exactly is fouling,,is this a term for just target shooting?

GEEZ! don't know if anybody else is having a problem with this site. Every time I click on something it logs me out, had to go to the lowest security level to be able to make this post.

When you thoroughly clean your barrel at the end of the season or shooting session there is a good chance because the barrel is free of all residue the first shot may not be accurate. So you fire a fouling shot to start the barrel fouling process. Like I posted above I use an old bullet for this, sometimes it is one that was previously loaded that I didn't shoot so I just pulled it, and I use about 50 gr of powder to get it started. I assume because I swab after every shot and my cleaning process the truth is with my gun the first shot is right on even without the fouling shot but I still do it anyway.

Lyman GPR and GPH barrels have different twist and groove depth.
GPR has a slower twist for roundballs while the Hunter model has faster twist designed for conicals.

Listen to Captchee. You are much better off sticking with real black powder. (The smell is addicting too) By the way congrats on your first real muzzleloader. (LOL)

Qtip
Soli Deo Gloria!

Didn't we all say that?

LB, Welcome to the world of flintlocks, they are fun and challenging. For your 50cal I'd suggest 3FFF for both load and primer. Start with about 70gr with a patched round ball. Keep your flint sharp and your powder dry, good luck.

wow,, wont want to pack that one out over hills ,, 2 miles from the truck,,lolthey grow them deer different in Michigan I see,,lol

Skin this'n pilgrim an I'll bring ya another'n

.54cal flintlock

well done RWL99. tell us how long the shot was?

Good job RWL.

Are you wearing mocs on snow? You're braver than I am. I'd slip, and fall 50 times a day.

This is an old picture, 1978 to be exact...



Here's one from the fall of 1979, Ontario moose with a .62cal flintlock.

At 77 winters I'm still huntin with flintlocks



and still makin meat

Now I know who you are. Didn't I say you looked like Santa on the traditional forum.

It could be.

This year at the family's Thanksgiving gathering one of my great granddaughters who is about two years old kept calling me Santa all day.