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Green River Rifle Works .54 Caliber left hand lock, 34" barrel and Ron Long Lock! I think I'm gonna be happy!

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Gonna be happy??? I should say so. Great choice Sharpsman, and the right caliber.
Congrats!
That is nice.
WOW! WOW! Enjoy that thing!
That is absolutely beautiful. But for me, that new ML would only be a wall-hanger for me, or a hunting rifle that only sees wide-open corners of the woods.
So the exception I have with rifles so nice (as the one pictured) is they change my hunting habits. For instance: I wouldn't dare hunt the thickets and scratch that rifle. My last couple purchases of rifles was in selecting basic, black synthetic stocks that I can take anywhere and could care-less of, should they get scratched.

Another problem I have with your gorgeous rifle is the size of the trigger guard. My fingers freeze easy, so I need to wear two pair of gloves on my fingertips here in cold-cold Michigan hunting seasons. Handwarmers are not my friend.... too many allergies, skin included.

Believe me, I tried taking my fancy, brassy long-rifle into thick quarters of the woods, keeping it in a gun case until I sat. That works fine UNLESS a deer pops-out enroute to my hunting spot. It's maddening to see a five point buck standing twenty yards ahead and my rifle is all zipped up inside a gun case across my shoulder.

So the best medicine for me is to buy rifles to hunt with - that aren't pretty and aren't even made of wood.

Enjoy that thing of beauty. It would fill my living room wall proud, but seldom ever see the hunting spots I go to, unless it's a corners field or easy access ridge.

Beautiful rifle! Why do the American. Or Kentucky long rifles have such an angle behind the hammer going down through the stock? Once again nice rifle!
Originally Posted by Angus1895
Beautiful rifle? Why do the American. Or Kentucky long rifles have such an angle behind the hammer going down through the stock? Once again nice rifle!


Because back in their heyday, open sights were the only game in town, and position shooting that we are familiar with was unheard of. If used like they are intended, they are a treat. Try to adapt them to a "modern" approach to shooting and you will be frustrated.

That is indeed a very nice rifle, one I would be proud to own. I though wouldn't worry about scratching it up when hunting. I routinely use nice rifles that some would say belong on display, not in the deer woods. Well, in my trade I rely on a lot of 100 year old hand tools that have a burnished look with patina that can't be applied in a factory. Do I throw them around on the bench? Do I let them get rusty? Do I abuse them in any way? Nope, I treat them with respect, but I do use them, virtually on a daily basis, and they look as good as when I became their custodian. Same holds true for my guns.

I have dragged my handmade half stock rifle through some truly nasty thickets over the last 20 years, and there isn't a scratch on it. I guess it boils down to one's attitude...
Very nice!
Very nice rifle! and the lock is on the right side for me! I will not own a gun that Im not going to use! Iv deer and Bear hunted with savage 99 "K" grade rifles! I tend to take good care of my stuff, if it was to get a mark well than I can look at it and rember the hunt that it happand on! I wish you Luck with your New rifle Sir!
I've been deer hunting now for 65 years and I ain't a 'roamer'! I learned a long time ago to scout for sign....and I sit my arse where I expect to see game and I've gotten more than my share! I don't give a 'hoot n hell' if I ever take another and I won't unless they're like this:

[Linked Image]Untitled by Rick Mulhern, on Flickr

I love fried backstrap but have been a 'head hunter' for many years now and I just let the smaller bucks grow! The grandsons shoot the meat deer. I saw probably 30 bucks in Kansas this past season rifle hunting and I never pulled the trigger! I froze my arse off for 30 years on climbing stands bow hunting and at this stage of my life those are just precious memories! I sit in a blind...with a heater when it's cold and whether or not I see a head I want...I've had a great day! I won't be worried about getting a scratch on this rifle!
Not sure where you found that lefthanded beauty but I'd be proud to hunt that one. I'd love one just like it.
That is a beautiful rifle!!! And nice buck too, hope you tag another like that with your new toy laugh
Is that the one that Track of the Wolf had? Seen it and was tempted by it.
Yep! It'll be in my hands soon!
Rick,....that's a keeper !

If you have that lock off, could you get a good close up photo of the innards, viewed from directly above, ruler below ?

Good reference to original dims.

GTC

The Hawkens always have appealed to me. A quintessential tool of the early American West smile
Originally Posted by GoexBlackhorn
That is absolutely beautiful. But for me, that new ML would only be a wall-hanger for me, or a hunting rifle that only sees wide-open corners of the woods.
So the exception I have with rifles so nice (as the one pictured) is they change my hunting habits. For instance: I wouldn't dare hunt the thickets and scratch that rifle. My last couple purchases of rifles was in selecting basic, black synthetic stocks that I can take anywhere and could care-less of, should they get scratched.

Another problem I have with your gorgeous rifle is the size of the trigger guard. My fingers freeze easy, so I need to wear two pair of gloves on my fingertips here in cold-cold Michigan hunting seasons. Handwarmers are not my friend.... too many allergies, skin included.

Believe me, I tried taking my fancy, brassy long-rifle into thick quarters of the woods, keeping it in a gun case until I sat. That works fine UNLESS a deer pops-out enroute to my hunting spot. It's maddening to see a five point buck standing twenty yards ahead and my rifle is all zipped up inside a gun case across my shoulder.

So the best medicine for me is to buy rifles to hunt with - that aren't pretty and aren't even made of wood.

Enjoy that thing of beauty. It would fill my living room wall proud, but seldom ever see the hunting spots I go to, unless it's a corners field or easy access ridge.



You seem cornfused. First off, you need to change your name to 2FG. Second, you only need to put a fingertip on them thar triggers, not stroke 'em like you're in the shower. Third, you carried a gun to your spot in a case? Dooood, that's as wrong as a football bat. Forth, It ain't hard to tote a gun in the field or woods without running into timber. Open your eyes. Tell me your name isn't really Helen Keller, please!

Last, there ain't many good reasons to use S/S guns, but I'll admit there are a few. All day soaking rain comes to mind. They double up as boat paddles fairly well and you can beat a beaver to death with one I suppose.

It is also acceptable to hunt S/S with a suppressor. That's uber cool, especially if you paint it black.

Be all you can be.

Dan



Originally Posted by crossfireoops
Rick,....that's a keeper !

If you have that lock off, could you get a good close up photo of the innards, viewed from directly above, ruler below ?

Good reference to original dims.

GTC



I'll do it Cross! Should be in my hands tomorrow! grin grin
Originally Posted by GoexBlackhorn
That is absolutely beautiful. But for me, that new ML would only be a wall-hanger for me, or a hunting rifle that only sees wide-open corners of the woods.
So the exception I have with rifles so nice (as the one pictured) is they change my hunting habits. For instance: I wouldn't dare hunt the thickets and scratch that rifle. My last couple purchases of rifles was in selecting basic, black synthetic stocks that I can take anywhere and could care-less of, should they get scratched.

Another problem I have with your gorgeous rifle is the size of the trigger guard. My fingers freeze easy, so I need to wear two pair of gloves on my fingertips here in cold-cold Michigan hunting seasons. Handwarmers are not my friend.... too many allergies, skin included.

Believe me, I tried taking my fancy, brassy long-rifle into thick quarters of the woods, keeping it in a gun case until I sat. That works fine UNLESS a deer pops-out enroute to my hunting spot. It's maddening to see a five point buck standing twenty yards ahead and my rifle is all zipped up inside a gun case across my shoulder.

So the best medicine for me is to buy rifles to hunt with - that aren't pretty and aren't even made of wood.

Enjoy that thing of beauty. It would fill my living room wall proud, but seldom ever see the hunting spots I go to, unless it's a corners field or easy access ridge.



I'm not worried about getting a scratch/dent, on/in the stock. I'm quite certain there are 'thickets' somewhere in Kansas where I do my deer hunting but mostly along the Medicine River the timber is fairly open so it's not uncommon to be able to 'sit' and see in places 200 yards...which I like! At 76 years of age I think I've probably tromped more miles and climbed enough mountains so these days my son will ride me to the vicinity of my stand on a wheeler and there I will sit....all day long if I so desire...with a stove aboard if it's really cold! I damn nigh froze to death in Idaho back in '80; had hypothermia and stayed in Idaho Falls hospital three days before catching a flight home and my body will not tolerate cold weather like it did when I was 40. That five point you mentioned would have been safe staring at me because I only shoot those akin to this:

[Linked Image]Kansas buck taken in Dec 2014 by Rick Mulhern, on Flickr

My son with the buck I took in 2014.
Received the GRRW Hawken this morning and it's been a real pleasure dealing with Track of the Wolf on this deal! Really great to deal with folks that understand what makes a business thrive aka Service and Reliability! I really like the 'cut' of this rifling and the barrel is just like TOTW described it...EXCELLENT! All metal is inletted to the T and I'm as happy as a cur dog locked up in a meat house!! grin grin

[Linked Image]Untitled by Rick Mulhern, on Flickr

I had to drill out and tap another rod for the .54 caliber jag as my other rods were all undersize. I've pulled the ramrod from the rifle and checked it...cleaned out the ferrules and will leave the rifle rod attached when shooting and use another couple to seat the PRB and to clean with! Tomorrow if not too windy and cold I'll see what it'll do on the tgt board!
Afternoon ( here) guys,....

FINE afternoon here, in point of fact.

Just waiting to here back from a local forklift pard, ....the very HEAVY, pretty damn dynamic, American built tool grinder sitting on the back of my old workhorse PU is FAR to heavy to even THINK of attempting to grab off with my little Kubota.
I know if DD was here he could do it,....
To nice and afternoon to screw around with chain hoists,....I COULD get the thing landed,....but than would have it right in the way.

Bottom line is that The whole scenario regarding Ball molds and other precision machined ML accoutrements just got to lookin' a little more practical,....Rick, PM me your home e-addy so I can send you a back channel series of text / photos that are not at this time for general Campfire purvue.


Oh,...the equivalent Tool grinder in fresh Chinee fish oil runs 25 30 K.

This old , and admittedly somewhat beat up unit was acquired today for U.S. $ 100, and loaded for free, to boot. Last time I worked an ANCIENT old Taft Pierce surface grinder over, we held .0001" with EASE.

Look, ....the rifling TABLE we're plotting ( can't call it a "machine" cuz we're gonna' build it out of hardWOOD) can't fail if the cutters we send raking down good American DOM are dead nuts,....can they ?

Ya, you need to pull and lube that lock, though Track may well already have,....get some pics, from as many angles as you can,....but if NOTHING else,...from directly above.

We're not "Stealing" nothing,....just plotting Samuel's original design parameters.

I find Hawkins a bit "clubby" ( gotta' smack those Arikarees, I know
grin eek laugh whistle)

I like that basic design in a WAY larger bore size, ...and the barrel SWAMPED,....swing faster, steady up better for MY offhand work.

Not really an issue,....now that I've been assigned the full qualifications of Target Shooter Puzzydom, this would all just be in the realm of musings,...No ?

GTC


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Member Bullshooter has a swamped barrel, custom flintlock, that he brought to the Campfire Hog Hunt a couple years ago. That was the first such gun I'd seen, and it is indeed a handy piece. I've never seen a swamped Hawken, but I bet it would also be a handy weapon.
Swamping a Hawken definitely falls into the realm of "Hot Rodding".....
You just called it "Custom".

The NICEST traditional "Hawken" I've handled was a .766 bore,....HAD to be .800 in the groove. Loaded a patched round ball into a nicely "Belled" muzzle,...very smoothly.

THIN barrel walls, and a delight to shoot,....you could SEE the ball flying, and the patch dropping off.

Resonant and pleasing BOOM, rather than an ear splitting crack.

Accurate, and POWERFUL,many an ELK felt it's bite, I'm told....bigger payload,reasonable charges,..

Old bud up North of the Medicine Line built it, and was nice enough to leave it in my unexperienced hands.

Cap lock gun,...something similar in Flint would make a really nice build.

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