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Anyone else having any trouble finding any? Live near Green Bay Wisconsin, and the on the shelf BH 209 supply has dried up.

Just returned from a successful mule deer hunt and have just a few pre-measured loads left.
Originally Posted by Chainsaw
Anyone else having any trouble finding any? Live near Green Bay Wisconsin, and the on the shelf BH 209 supply has dried up.

Just returned from a successful mule deer hunt and have just a few pre-measured loads left.


Most outlets here have it
I bought my inline during the crunch and began picking up a jug here and there until I had enough. Unlike 777, BH doesn't have shelf-life issues.

If you shoot a good bit or have friends that use it too, you can buy a bunch online. The savings will pay for the hazmat.
I bought some at Fleet Farm in Appleton a few weeks ago. Let me know if you can't find any as I have most of a pound left. I believe Scheel's is a little cheaper but I try to stay away from the mall this time of year.
Originally Posted by RandyR
I bought some at Fleet Farm in Appleton a few weeks ago. Let me know if you can't find any as I have most of a pound left. I believe Scheel's is a little cheaper but I try to stay away from the mall this time of year.


Randy, Thanks for the kind offer but I have till next year to procure some BH 209. Might backorder the Cabelas 4 pk and save a bit on it. ($32.50 each in a 4 pk)

Copy you on FR Mall.
Originally Posted by Chainsaw
Originally Posted by RandyR
I bought some at Fleet Farm in Appleton a few weeks ago. Let me know if you can't find any as I have most of a pound left. I believe Scheel's is a little cheaper but I try to stay away from the mall this time of year.


Randy, Thanks for the kind offer but I have till next year to procure some BH 209. Might backorder the Cabelas 4 pk and save a bit on it. ($32.50 each in a 4 pk)

Copy you on FR Mall.


Cabelas 4 pack is 10 oz bottles; Powder Valley & MidSouth Shooters both have 5 lb jugs for $199
Just started using Blackhorn. The way my Encore shot it I may buy the 5# jug. Best results I have ever had with my Encore. Thanks for the tip on the 5# suppliers
I can find it ok where I am, problem is that most places are $43-$46 for a 10oz jug. I'm gonna break down and get a 5lb jug next time.
Bought the only jug in Augusta,WV yesterday for $33.95 but the shop owner says he can get more. Only other sources I found are 2+ hours away.
Originally Posted by EZEARL
Bought the only jug in Augusta,WV yesterday for $33.95 but the shop owner says he can get more. Only other sources I found are 2+ hours away.


Valley Guns II in Inwood seems to usually have it. Still a haul, I know, but not two hours.

I have quit the Blackhorn scene, with 66% of a jug remaining.

Use Goex FFF all the time now. Hopefully Bass Pro Shop will continue to sell it. It's several dollars less than Blackhorn and I get 6oz more per jug.
Originally Posted by GoexBlackhorn
I have quit the Blackhorn scene, with 66% of a jug remaining.

Use Goex FFF all the time now. Hopefully Bass Pro Shop will continue to sell it. It's several dollars less than Blackhorn and I get 6oz more per jug.


What are your results with the Goex compared to the Blackhorn? Advantages or Goex?
Advantage is Goex FFF goes bang every time and no hesitation/hang in bad weather..... and yes, I use the proper, Blackhorn-approved breechplugs in my Knight and T/C

Also, no more semi quiet sounding ''poof'' instead of a loud bang, and the bullet only flies 30 yards away. This is when Blackhorn doesn't like loose-fitting heavy conical loads.
Blackhorn doesn't care for loose sabots in the bore or powder that is not compacted firmly. It will lose energy on ignition.

It's just too picky for me and I already mentioned it's additional price tag at the register.

But for those that load the bullet to Blackhorn specs and only use one bullet and one powder charge constantly, well then Blackhorn shines there. But I prefer to shoot a wide variety of bullets every year and varying powder charges. Goex allows that without recourse. Not so with Blackhorn. It tells you what it likes and does not / will not compromise.

I bought a percussion ignition kit for my Knight to use with BP and lead conicals. I know priners will work fine, but just wanted to have options. I've got most of a pound of Goex FFG, but plan to get the Olde Eynesford as it's supposed to be a bit cleaner and more energetic. There's a large BP dealer nearby that caters to skirmishers.

Originally Posted by GoexBlackhorn
Advantage is Goex FFF goes bang every time and no hesitation/hang in bad weather..... and yes, I use the proper, Blackhorn-approved breechplugs in my Knight and T/C

Also, no more semi quiet sounding ''poof'' instead of a loud bang, and the bullet only flies 30 yards away. This is when Blackhorn doesn't like loose-fitting heavy conical loads.
Blackhorn doesn't care for loose sabots in the bore or powder that is not compacted firmly. It will lose energy on ignition.

It's just too picky for me and I already mentioned it's additional price tag at the register.

But for those that load the bullet to Blackhorn specs and only use one bullet and one powder charge constantly, well then Blackhorn shines there. But I prefer to shoot a wide variety of bullets every year and varying powder charges. Goex allows that without recourse. Not so with Blackhorn. It tells you what it likes and does not / will not compromise.



Thanks for the reply GoexBlackhorn. I can see your reasoning and I agree the price is alot higher than any other powder I have bought.
Seeing plenty of bh209 around the salt lake valley sporting goods shops.
Backordered a 4 pack of BH 209 and received it in a week from Cabelas. All the same lot#
A lot of crap on blackhorn even triple seven good old black powder the way to go
Originally Posted by Chainsaw
Backordered a 4 pack of BH 209 and received it in a week from Cabelas. All the same lot#


Speaking of that, and at the risk of a hijack, has anybody seen a lot-to-lot difference? That would mean something in a limited-supply situation.

I just re-entered the ML arena again after about a 12-year absence, and like BH's characteristics. Having loaded CF rifle cartridges naturally led to the lot number question.
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
Originally Posted by Chainsaw
Backordered a 4 pack of BH 209 and received it in a week from Cabelas. All the same lot#


Speaking of that, and at the risk of a hijack, has anybody seen a lot-to-lot difference? That would mean something in a limited-supply situation.

I just re-entered the ML arena again after about a 12-year absence, and like BH's characteristics. Having loaded CF rifle cartridges naturally led to the lot number question.


Addressing the OP's question first around my area it seems hit and miss.I picked up three canisters at Cabelas Omaha the other day they said they have a standing BO but never know when it's coming.

Vic,I've not noticed any lot to lot difference yet but I strictly use it in metallic cartridges 45 Colt,45/70 and 45/90.Characteristics pretty much mirror BP but it does light better with magnum primers as the data suggest.

It's basically a duplex blend of KIK black and something else. KIK from what I understand is no longer available or imported in the US so knowing this I emailed Western Powders Inc. and the reply was no change in chemistry or formula.
Thanks, Woody, that's good to know.

I am also sitting here looking at some .45-70 cases, 540 grain bullets, and BH209, so you know where this might go...
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
Thanks, Woody, that's good to know.

I am also sitting here looking at some .45-70 cases, 540 grain bullets, and BH209, so you know where this might go...


Been having some good results with BH and the 45/70...excellent accuracy with very small shot to shot velocity variation.My pet load is the Lyman 457643 cast 30:1 [ 435grs] over 35.5 grs of BH..Velocity is 1253 which is a ballpark for BP loads.
You mention 35.5 grains, is that volume or weight, and does the powder need to be compressed?
I ended up having to change scope settings with one 10 ounce container of BH 209. It simply had a different but consistent POI.

Hope to be able to set impact point with the 4 containers and be set for awhile.

I like Blackhorn 209 for my application. I am not a lover of BP rifles and have the two inlines just to be able to extend my hunting season and to hunt other areas in the country.
Originally Posted by Vic_in_Va
You mention 35.5 grains, is that volume or weight, and does the powder need to be compressed?


Cartridge loading is strictly by weight and no compression necessary with even allowable airspace between bullet and powder so unlike BP SOP's however I do use an over powder wad even if the data doesn't reflect the need only as a precaution to eliminate lube migration on hot days.

That load for my 45/70 is about perfect using a .060 card wad I have zero airspace for 100% load density. I think you'll like it just too bad its so dang pricey.
Thanks!

I know you and a couple others here are pretty knowledgeable about the Black powder cartridge stuff, and Blackhorn looks like it's a natural for that application.

I shot some Beartooth bullets Piledrivers today, but using H322 as the propellant. I couldn't help but think about loading some up with BH. Though my loads today were going from 1530 fps to 1556 fps, I'd still have complete confidence in a bullet that heavy running in the mid 1200 fps region. Those performance figures have proven themselves.

Roger on the price, but it's a good powder so I don't mind it too much.
There's a little shop near me that had quite a bit of BH209 on the shelf earlier this fall. I think it'd been there a while as I picked up 2 cans at $32 each. I didn't realize it had gotten so expensive. I think I'll drop back in and see if they've got any left! Another couple cans would look good on my shelf.
Gander Mountain always has it in their stores around western PA. Maybe try their website.
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