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Posted By: Whiptail Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/10/15

By Cabela's.
Posted By: Cariboujack Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/10/15
Arctic Oven is twice that price, for what would be a similar size. I don't think it's the same, but it would make a nice 3 man tent for a week long hunt or more. Appears to be a nice 4 season tent.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/11/15
A friend has either that one or very similar in construction from Cabelas. Has stood up to AK winds so far very well.

Its on our short list to buy for extended camp outs.
Posted By: KC Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
It does look like a good tent and Cabelas stuff generally performs well. I have a Cabelas XPG tent that has weathered some pretty bad winds.

At 10'x14' and 50# it's a pretty good size and it looks like it would be a compact, lightweight (by comparison) alternative to a wall tent, easier to pack on a horse, and easier to setup. Pair this with a LiteOutdoors stove or a Little Buddy heater and you're set.

It would be great for a Colorado elk hunt with horses or a fly-in hunt in Aklaska. I think I would use all the guy ropes when setting it up just to be sure that it's ready for high winds.

And you can get a 10% discount. The current code is C5AB102015.

KC

Posted By: Klikitarik Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
The fabrics used in the Cabelas vs the AO are not the same I don't believe (based on what I read in the Cabela's description- it's coated versus membrane.) The Cabela's might deserve the term Arctic Sauna by comparison instead. laugh
Posted By: Snowwolfe Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
I don't see an inner layer of material that will wick away all the moisture and add another layer of insulation.
This might be a good tent but it isn't even in the same league as an Arctic Oven as far as comfort and wicking ability and warmth.
Posted By: rost495 Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
I dont 'think it can be close to what the oven offers for winter camping, but for standard camping, I suspect its not a bad option at all. Compared to my buddies tent he uses in moose seaosn. Obviously its not cold then though.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
Originally Posted by KC
At 10'x14' and 50# it's a pretty good size and it looks like it would be a compact, lightweight (by comparison) alternative to a wall tent, easier to pack on a horse...


No way I'd put a 50 lb tent on a horse. That thing says "snowmobile sled" all over it.
Posted By: TheKuskokid Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
This is something Cabela's does all the time. They'll carry a quality piece of merchandise to see how it sells, then have copies made in China and stop selling the quality merchandise.
Posted By: kk alaska Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
Just set up my Artic Oven 10 X 10 for the first time bought it used this spring. Older one with a added vestible but its like new with stove and all acc. They are the tent for AK weather.
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Posted By: rost495 Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/12/15
Originally Posted by TheKuskokid
This is something Cabela's does all the time. They'll carry a quality piece of merchandise to see how it sells, then have copies made in China and stop selling the quality merchandise.


That sucks. possibly. China makes stuff to teh quality and price requested. IE its not China making it cheap but Cabelas requesting it cheap. Damn shame that.
Posted By: atvalaska Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/13/15
No polypropylene ...it ain't a copy ...it will rain indoors with that setup I believe
Posted By: rost495 Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/13/15
Rain can be also related to knowing how to vent a tent and how to fire up the stove!
Posted By: KC Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/20/15
Originally Posted by atvalaska
No polypropylene ...it will rain indoors with that setup I believe

atvalaska:

It's obviously a double-wall tent. Condensation should be limited to the rainfly just like any other double-wall tent. Am I missing something here?

KC

Posted By: KC Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/20/15
Originally Posted by ironbender
No way I'd put a 50 lb tent on a horse. That thing says "snowmobile sled" all over it.

ironbender:

I generally limit the weight that I put on a horse to 150#. However, it does look like it would also fit neatly on a sled pulled by a snowmobile.

KC

Posted By: Klikitarik Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/20/15
Originally Posted by KC
Originally Posted by atvalaska
No polypropylene ...it will rain indoors with that setup I believe

atvalaska:

It's obviously a double-wall tent. Condensation should be limited to the rainfly just like any other double-wall tent. Am I missing something here?

KC



The 'Oven" uses a micro-fiber, non-woven "fabric" on the inside. That is what they promote as being a significant factor in making these tents as effective as they are. In colder weather, the breathing capability of the inner fabric separates "effective" from the rest. While I've used good REI, Cabelas, and other foreign origin knock-offs, the materials never seem to be chosen to the same specs that the more reputable manufacturers (North Face, Marmot, AK T&T, etc.) use. That said, that Cabelas tent is probably a pretty nice tent, at least into late fall weather.
Posted By: 458 Lott Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/20/15
Bender rides Shetland ponies wink
Posted By: ironbender Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/20/15
Bastid! Ya seen me?
Posted By: rost495 Re: Arctic Oven Knock off? - 08/20/15
Originally Posted by Klikitarik
Originally Posted by KC
Originally Posted by atvalaska
No polypropylene ...it will rain indoors with that setup I believe

atvalaska:

It's obviously a double-wall tent. Condensation should be limited to the rainfly just like any other double-wall tent. Am I missing something here?

KC



The 'Oven" uses a micro-fiber, non-woven "fabric" on the inside. That is what they promote as being a significant factor in making these tents as effective as they are. In colder weather, the breathing capability of the inner fabric separates "effective" from the rest. While I've used good REI, Cabelas, and other foreign origin knock-offs, the materials never seem to be chosen to the same specs that the more reputable manufacturers (North Face, Marmot, AK T&T, etc.) use. That said, that Cabelas tent is probably a pretty nice tent, at least into late fall weather.


Totally agree on this. The good cabelas are ok, probably down to zero IMHO, as we've been in them at 10 for sure and no issues that bother us flat landers that are used to(but hate) 100s plus... IE +10 is chilly for us.

It would not be a 4 season tent IMHO.

And if it was much past late fall in AK, I would not trust it much either.... bombshelter or arctic oven for that IMHO.
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