The books finally showed up today--in time so mail out the first 50 pre-orders. We'll be getting the rest on the way over the next day or two.

Thanks for everybody's patience. They were supposed to be here 9 days ago, but between the weather and other shipping delays... The driver who delivered him says there's a shortage of drivers in his particular company, which he claims is partly due to younger guys not wanting to get into it. (He's 57.)

This will be some good reading. Thanks John.

Thanks for the update, John. My thanks to y'all for doing this.

Outstanding John - weather permitting

This will be my first Gack book. Looking forward to getting it.

I'll be looking forward to getting mine. I'd like to deal do more with my 338RCM if it's in there, the 375's and 30-06.

You will enjoy it, and I recommend you order the others!

There’s secret codes and schitt in the first three you need to learn to interpret the latest one.

I should mention (or "re-mention") that this one is titled The Little Book of Rifle Loads That Work. That's because the other three are Big Books of Gun Gack--about the size of a Gun Digest Annual, with 400+ pages. Gack 4 is only 269 pages....

Just in time for Thanksgiving reading.

I am betting it will not be your last.

Looking forward to my copy of LBGG IV

Looking forward to the book. I have the first three.

Paid for mine yesterday, preordered but was out of the country. Be looking forward to the content.

Saweet! Harness the sled-dogs and bring it over! LOL

See you soon.

OldPineC : looking at the table of contents on the website, there’s no mention of the 338 Ruger Short PRC. Also, the Only 375 is the H&H.

I guess we’ll just have to apply the Rules and Muddle through …

We have shipped all the pre-publication orders that were ONLY for GG4, but there are approximately 50 orders which include other books. Due to the local, little-bitty post office being closed tomorrow and Saturday, we'll be getting out the extra-book orders on the way on on Monday.

Thanks again to all who ordered--and your patience!

Looking forward to getting my copy. Thanks for the update, JB.

Thanks for the update John

Great news. Looking forward to it.

Thanks john looking forward to it

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to it.

Thanks for the update John. Pouring a glass of Hoppies # 9 to celebrate.

So Bobthenailer, how you like your Hoppes? Straight up,
on the rocks or maybe a splash of soda? I do mine in
a big snifter glass to get full effect.

So Bobthenailer, how you like your Hoppes? Straight up,
on the rocks or maybe a splash of soda? I do mine in
a big snifter glass to get full effect.

Mine just arrived - Thanks John and Eileen! About to open it and enjoy.
Rex

John, feel free to take a break and mail my book at your leisure. Ward

Ward,

ALL the orders for single copies have been shipped. Right now we're down to the orders for multiple copies, or include other books, or are for other countries than the U.S. Those should also go out tomorrow.

My copy arrived today. Good thing too, I was getting tired of sitting out by the mail box. Dogs were trying to piss on me, not to mention the funny looks from the neighbors.

Got mine tonight

Rec'd mine today, thanks !

Oh no! It arrived today. Drat's.

How am I gonna keep from opening it before Elk/Goose/Turkey day?

Oh, the temptation...

You should have stated this is your first Gack book from John........
You cant make me believe you have never had a Gack book from Mr.Hefner !!!!!!!!!

Thank you John and Leanie rec'd my copy today.mb

Can't wait to get mine

How would one go about ordering two copies?

You can do that either through www.riflesandrecipes.com, or by phoning 406-521-0273.

Thanks to both of you!

Received mine yesterday John - love the format, congrats on another good one

Happy for you your books showed up.

Mine arrived today, thanks JB and EC!

Do I need to sign for my GG4 package?

I keep getting emails from FedEx that I have a package I need to sign for. I have no packages coming other than GG4, and I do not know how GG4 was shipped.

Our books go USPS priority mail, unless somebody requests otherwise....

Thank you.

Glad to hear it's USPS.....a UPS trailer overturned near Glendive yesterday and I was worried my copy might have been on it!

We lived in a tiny town near Lewistown in the late 1980s. A UPS truck went off the road and flipped between our town and Lewistown--and it contained a BUNCH of skunk "cover-scent" a local sporting goods store had ordered.....

Received mine yesterday...its already had its first reading! Thanks JB! Always enjoy your writing. JK

Got mine yesterday as well - thank you both! Can’t wait to try some of these loads - over the years I have tried many John has recommended or had written about and all have worked wel for me!

PennDog

Received mine on Monday. I'll save it for Thanksgiving day as I don't do football.
Thank you John and Eileen.

Mine showed up yesterday. Haven't had a chance to get into it yet, but it appears to be intensely interesting; at least for somebody like me. Looking forward to it.

Mine just showed up, thanks

The mailman just delivered mine. Thanks, John and Eileen, and the autograph is nice too!

Mine arrived in rural mid Michigan today. Just the thing to peruse while warming up this evening after a day in the deer blind! Looking forward to better shooting with John's loads....assuming components are either on my shelf already or otherwise available.

Got mine this afternoon

Hoping my little post office in the middle of Lake Champlain has a copy in my box sometime soon. So pumped to read the newest edition.

Mine came in on monday, Thanks!

Been enjoying mine John. Great idea including "The Rules" from GG1 at the end. I am in a little project now where they are coming in handy.
Rex

Enjoying my copy, Thanks Mule Deer

I note with some grins that you mention CFE223 for the .35 Whelen in GG4. I have been loading 225 gr Partitions with CFE223 for a couple of years now with great accuracy and velocity. Thanks for the new book!

Got mine a couple days ago. I'm going to enjoy reading it. Thank you.

Got mine a few days ago.

Thanks.

Got mine yesterday ty looking forward to trying your 257 Bob loads also have 4 pounds of 4451 I never thought to use for the bob but since you mentioned it might as well try I have a bunch of Berger 115gr bullets

Got my issue the other day and after browsing through it I realized two things.

I need to stock up on new and different powders, and I've got some work to do at the range come spring.

Mine should be here Monday or Tuesday.

I finally got off my butt and ordered my copy.

Should be a great read, a book full of wisdom.

I went to order a couple of weeks ago and looks like your sold out. You know when you will be getting more in?

Got mine today!

Don't know where you saw that--though the first printing's arrival was delayed by nine days, due to the trucking shortage that seems to be affecting a lot of the country, plus some earlier-than-usual winter weather. Our printer loaded the order on a truck on October 28, which as supposed to arrive her on November 1st--but they didn't arrive until the 9th. We have shipped close to half of them, but there are definitely some left!

Good luck finding them.

I hope I have better luck with your book. Ordered a book from Midway in Nov last. They gave it to the USPS the next day. Tracked it to Atlanta then to Springfield Mass. Received the book in February.

Mule Deer, I started reading mine this afternoon while sitting with my wife who is recovering from a hip replacement. It’s an easy read and I’m enjoying it a bunch. Makes passing the time educational.

I’m reading mine - the chapter on the 30-06 - and JB is recounting a discussion with another hunter about the “caliber” (30-06) of his rifle. Good stuff.

Received my copy the other day and just as I expected another great addition to my collection of books from J and E!
Thanks!
rookie

Just rolled into the house the same time the mailman was putting gack from Montana in my mailbox
Thank You

I am looking forward to getting mine. My mail goes to northern Virginia before it comes back across the Blue Ridge Mountains. I hope it does not get lost.

That was actually suggested by more than one Campfire member, which made sense!

Got mine Wednesday. Sitting on the reload bench. Thanks John.

I got my copy yesterday. I’ve been spending hours reading, especially the pages that pertain to all the cartridges that I reload for myself and for my “friend”who lives down the road. Thanks for your work on the book.

Mine probably won't make it to idaho

Mine was waiting for me today. Just in time for the weekend.
Thanks!

Still anxiously awaiting....................

If you ordered off the website, you can PM me your name, address and order number and Eileen can provide a tracking number.

A woman from Washington state called yesterday, who was worried about the copy she ordered, because it needed to be there by Wednesday, the 23rd. Eileen looked up the tracking number, which said it was expected to arrive on Monday.

The predicted time of arrival with the standard media-mail shipping we include in the prices listed on www.riflesandrecipes.com is generally accurate. But it of course also depends on when the book was mailed, and there were so many pre-orders that it took 4-1/2 days to package and ship them. And of course the farther the book's destination from Montana the longer it takes.

Loads that work, reloading manuals are full of listed loads but Nosler takes it to a higher level and tells you their most accurate powder charge for each powder as well as their best load powder wise for each cartridge. Then comes JB with GG 4 who gets right down to the nitty gritty. No guessing on what powders to start with, read what he says and save the price of the book the first time you don't have to guess at what powder to try first. Saves a lot of money this day and age of damn expensive components. Then of course if you call in your order you get to talk to leanie and she is allways nice to talk too...mb

I'll second that.

My copy arrived today! Going to start reading it tomorrow.
Thank you Mr. JB and Ms. Eileen for your hard work and dedication to these great books!

Thanks again, Tom

Got mine.
Started with THE 270, the 375 H&H, the 9.3-62, and then the 17 Hornet.

Mine showed today. Mostly I have interest in 243win, 30-06, and 375h&h. Then I found the 30-40 Krag section. Good grief, I wan that 30-40 single shot.

If it was a good book, a little skunk scent could be overcome!

All

Got mine yesterday. Great reference for the future. All the calibers I still need.

Thanks John

Scott

Got mine Saturday, love it, can't wait to try some of the new powders and loads. Load intro is worth the price of the book. Thanks JB

Got mine tonight.
Looking forward to reading through it this week.
I noticed no 7x64

StarchedCover

Oh, the 7x64 is there--but the data's hidden inside the data for the "other" 7x64--the .280 Remington!

My copy arrived today! Awesome idea to print the cartridge type on the page edge. I can thumb thru quickly to index what I need. Thank You John for another great GG book. Is your wrist tired from signing books?

Goodness that's a lot of handloading! And rifles!


Thanks

Glad you're liking GG4!

Printing the cartridge on the edge of the page was Eileen's idea. Of course, she knows rifle loonies....

My right-hand/wrist did get a little weary signing books last week, when we were taking batches of 50 to the P.O., sometimes three times a day. But it's OK now. (The big problem is my right knee, which I twisted a little while stalking and dragging out a mule deer last Thursday, but it's also getting better--perhaps enough to go after another deer later today....)

Glad you finally got your copy, Carl! We had a fun conversation with John before he delivered it.

GG IV and RLN arrived the same day via two different mailing systems. Great stuff!
One question, though: Page 112 in GG IV says, "The 6.5 PRC's first animal was this mule deer, a 2 1/2 year old buck with stunted antlers, which tasted great!" The question is, how did you prepare the antlers? Braising would seem the logical way, but Dad taught us that antlers make poor gravy, so...
Inquiring minds want to know.

Ha! (But you apparently need to Google "subordinate clause" as applied to the English language.)

It was good to catch up with you guys. I am looking forward to the book!

Just returned from the annual expedition to the Maine North Woods. Negative results.
Package of books was awaiting my return.
Spirits instantly lifted! Thanks!

My copy came a couple of days ago. Just in time as I got in two days of deer hunting before a bout with the flu has sidelined me. I went right to the 250 Savage data as I just took possession of my latest build in this classic of deer calibers. I second the great idea of putting the cartridge designation on the side of the page. My hats off to Eileen and excellent idea.
I was a bit surprised to see no data for either the 22/250 or 250/3000 and H380 though.

Ha, thinking back, I believe I was one of them! I had completely forgotten.
Enjoying the book - thanks for writing it for us, and for all the years of careful testing that went into it.
Rex

FYI: I really liked the wright up on the 338 Win. Mag. Nice work John.

Yes, that made me want a 375H&H even more!

Eileen reminded me that she did the same thing in her big game cookbook Slice of the Wild, but of course the tabs were different: Field to Gambrel, Gambrel to Table, and rather than separating elk from deer, or deer from antelope she set tabs for Tender, Tougher, Stew and Burger, Grill, Fry, Cover & Cook. Three tabs per recipe page, and her favorite tab—Rogue’s Gallery. That’s photos of individual game animals we took, with details on weather, how we handled them, how they tasted.

She wanted an assortment of conditions and animals, and had a lot of fun looking through our photo files remembering those hunts, and dinners, including the time she killed a nice tender muley buck and it froze overnight. Lots of details on what can go wrong and what you can and can’t control and how the cook deals with it.

Thanks!

Ha, indeed. I can't even spell "subordinate clause". (Claws, Claus, clahz,...) Just because you don't want to share the recipe.
Have a Happy Thanksgiving, sir.

been gone for 3 weeks up at the border on my family annual deer hunt i just stay longer its a great time than the rest do. got a great surprise when i got home Gun Gack lV book was here great read for me ! i got an extra book too for a x-mas present for a dear friend who reloads ammo too ! i gotta ask this question to John with a grin : what`s next ? John, thank you for another great book ! Pete53

Thanks!

Dunno what's next. Am turning 70 next week and recently took another major step toward retirement--which have been doing for the past few years. (My "retirement" technique reminds me a lot of the old Johnny Cash song "One Piece at a Time," where a guy builds himself a Cadillac with parts brought home from the factory over a number of years....)

But as one of my older writer friends, the late Charlie Waterman, once said: "Old writers never retire, they just write less." When Charlie passed away in his early 90s he was still writing at least one monthly magazine column....

John, I hope you have a wonderful birthday!

Wishing y'all the best.

That is a handsome looking 22K Hornet! Enjoyed everything so far.

Happy Birthday a little early John. I just turned 70 myself the end of October and have been easing into full time retirement for several years. It's a great time to be alive, upright and taking nourishment. Enjoy your special day and welcome to a new decade. I'm enjoying GG4 very much thank you for all your efforts.

happy Birthday

The copies I ordered, including GGI, all arrived on Monday.
Thank you, John, and many thanks to leenie for her hard work, and keeping a sunny disposition!
May you two have a wonderful Thanksgiving!

yes Happy Birthday John mine is in the next few days too but i will be just 69 !

Hope you have a happy one, young fella!

Got my copy like 4 days ago...

thanks JB, and a Happy Birthday and a Happy Holiday Season to you and your lovely wife.

And thanks for all you do for the rest of us Campfire Brethren.

cheers & best regards

Happy birthday, JB. I hit 71 yesterday. Glad we can still do what we want, and need, to do.

Yep, getting this far and still being able to hike and hunt is a pretty good deal!

I got my copy Wednesday, so while the wife was baking, I was reading!

Happy Birthday John!

I was a little late ordering mine, but it arrived today. Thanks, Ms. Clarke!