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Posted By: rflshtr Lee Six synthetic rifle stocks - 12/29/09
Anybody able to point me towards information on these rifle stocks? Anybody have one and care to comment? Thanks.
Lee24 stocks are much better. He invented the synthetic stock.
I'm hoping that Lee Six's are not just an earlier version of the Lee24's!
Maybe you should ask him to post a picture.
that would mean that the 24's are 4x better than the 6's
Originally Posted by rflshtr
Anybody able to point me towards information on these rifle stocks? Anybody have one and care to comment? Thanks.


Ihad one many years ago, late 80s-early nineties.At the time it was thought to be one of the best. By todays standards in comparrison I would give them a low score. Maybe overtime, hopefully they are an improvement over the earlier versions. Mine was hollow, cold and noisy but it shot like crazy.


BTW, Lee Six is his real name. I believe he took over McMillan rifle barrels years ago. They were some real screamers at one time.

Call Clay Spencer,
If I remember correctly, Chet Brown and Lee Six built the first fiber glass stocks back in the late 60's. Brown moved to Sacremento and the company is still in business. Bill Wiesman bought the McMillan barrel works. He is in College Station Tx.
Originally Posted by Savage2005
that would mean that the 24's are 4x better than the 6's


4x6's?.... laugh




Casey
Originally Posted by rflshtr
Anybody able to point me towards information on these rifle stocks? Anybody have one and care to comment? Thanks.


I would, but my Six stock is going on 20 years old--i'm sure it's not the same stock.

Currently, if I were looking for a good quality (and lightweight) stock, it would be a Banser or McMillan.



Casey
Originally Posted by docbill
Bill Wiesman bought the McMillan barrel works. He is in College Station Tx.


You are correct. I forgot that I have one of his hats. I think that .009" record still stands but I've heard the barrels are nuttin' what they used to be.
Bill Wiesman is not a bench rest guy. He makes a lot of pressure gun barrels and has lately begun to make universal receivers for the industry. At one time he did custom guns and was barreling guns for Empire rifles.
As some one mentioned, Lee Six and Chet Brown were partners. After a short time, they split the molds and went their separate ways. I bought several stocks from Lee. They were a much better made stock than Brown's but required more work than today's stocks. He made both benchrest and hunting rifle stocks and was a great supporter of benchrest. In the mid-eighties he started making the injection molded stocks as used by Remington and others. One shouldn't hold this against him! The Lee Six stock business was sold to George Kelbly and the last Six stock I bought came from there.
I still have and use two Lee Six BR stocks I bought in 1978. GD
And the Lee Six injection-molded stocks are better than most, as well....
Thanks to all who provided good info here and via PM. I was having trouble finding info on these stocks and appreciate the help. Sounds like they are an early synthetic, well built, stiff, but not a lightweight stock. The one I was considering is a late 1980's model.
Mine is for a 700 LA and weighs right at 2#.

Forgot to say, I believe I purchased mine between 1985 and 1990 direct from lee six.

Allen
I've got a Lee Six I bought off a friend in the mid 90's in Australia...but when it was made in the US I wouldn't know..

Its an ultralight for a Mod 700 SA and I still have it on my .260 Rem SS Mountain Rifle....

One thing bothers me... and that is whilst it appears stiff, if you lay it in the sun during a warm summers day the forend warps towards the sun !! quite a lot! say up to 5mm !!!
Rifle still shoots 'fairly' well.... but this can't be good !!!

BTW whilst the bbl is only free floated...it isn't bedded..

(Photo attached....I thought it would show up on the post?..)

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I pulled mine out of the vault to see, and the recoil pad says six enterprises, and looks similar to yours. It has the injected molding look to it..... Maybe six enterprises isn't lee six like I thought. It is just under 2#, pretty much the same as a bell & carlson for the same LA remington.

Allen
Originally Posted by hemiallen
I pulled mine out of the vault to see, and the recoil pad says six enterprises, and looks similar to yours. It has the injected molding look to it..... Maybe six enterprises isn't lee six like I thought. It is just under 2#, pretty much the same as a bell & carlson for the same LA remington.

Allen


Allen,

mine is probably Six Enterprises too ...Whoops (sorry Lee Six)!!.. I cant get to it as its 12,000kms away....anyway if yours is like mine.. check out the forend warping on a warm summers day ! If your hunting season is only in winter...no worries !... but it is an issue to be aware of.. if you use it in summer....

cheers
Posted By: g5m Re: Lee Six synthetic rifle stocks - 01/01/10
Originally Posted by ozzie
I've got a Lee Six I bought off a friend in the mid 90's in Australia...but when it was made in the US I wouldn't know..

Its an ultralight for a Mod 700 SA and I still have it on my .260 Rem SS Mountain Rifle....

One thing bothers me... and that is whilst it appears stiff, if you lay it in the sun during a warm summers day the forend warps towards the sun !! quite a lot! say up to 5mm !!!
Rifle still shoots 'fairly' well.... but this can't be good !!!

BTW whilst the bbl is only free floated...it isn't bedded..

(Photo attached....I thought it would show up on the post?..)



Ozzie, is the photo to show the warpage?
Nope, it was just to show the rifle's stock just to see if anyone else had one (and practice posting a photo...but I messed up..I thought the photo would be displayed in the post rather than as an attachment you have to open).....I dont know if 'Six Enterprises' and Lee Six had any connection...I just assumed they did and probably made an ass out of myself blush .....

Actually the stock is like a 'sunflower'...when I layed it down on its left side it warped to the right...then I turned it over and it warped the other way...!

Probably in North America this wouldnt be an issue as most of your game seasons are in winter ? ...'Down under' we hunt all year round ..(or whenever we can get a pass from the missus !)
Maybe I should put the original factory laminated stock back on !!!!

BTW Happy New Year to all the happy campers !
Six Enterprises was Lee Six's company. All injection molded stocks are a handle at best. The original fibreglass stocks weighed in the 22 oz range. GD
Originally Posted by greydog
Six Enterprises was Lee Six's company. All injection molded stocks are a handle at best. The original fibreglass stocks weighed in the 22 oz range. GD


True, the six enterprises stock is injection molded.

Guess the synthetic takeoff rem 700 injection moulded stock I used a few months ago to replace the wood adl stock on my 22-250 is fooling my action. It printed around 5/8" groups with my squirrel loads in the ADL stock, and made 2 - 1/2" 5 shot groups in the injection molded ( bedded) stock. Better not tell the gun it's got just a handle on it....... at best.

I did make sure the forearm won't touch the barrel under pressure of sandbags or a bipod.... IMHO the only issue an injection molded stock has once a good bedding job is done.

Allen whistle
I have an early Lee Six fiberglass stock I put on a Remington 721 in .280 Remington. I got it back in the late seventies or early eighties. Chet Brown had built a high country model for me on a Remington 600 action with a Shilen stainless barrel in .284 and his then new Kevlar riflestock. The Lee Six stock I have is not an injection molded stock but a laid up fiberglass stock. I don't think it is a particularly lightweight stock, but it's been so long ago since I put it together I don't recall it's weight.
One thing for sure it isn't near the featherweight Kevlar stock that Chet made for the model he called "High Country" which weighs in at under six pounds with a bushnell 2-8× compact scope aboard and when my eyes were better shot MOA with Winchester factory loads.
I was working at B.A.S.S. when boat makers started using Kevlar in hulls. I suggested to Chet that he try Kevlar. He did, but he complained that the Kevlar was hard on the shears he used for fiberglass. wink

I think that may have been the start of Kevlar stocks. Roughly 1976-77.

As I remember, Lee Six was into collecting cars, too.

I still have an early Brown Precision M70 in .25-06. Got it for my wife. She wasn’t interested. I don’t rember ever firing it.
There were features I never saw in a Lee Six stock but did see in a Brown Precision. I never had a Lee Six stock with a large void behind the recoil lug. I never got a Lee Six stock with a flexible butt. I never got a Lee Six stock which used a hot dog wrapper as a filler in the forearm. These are all things I saw in BP stocks. No question, Lee's stocks were a bit heavier, but they were also stronger, more rigid, and better finished, out of the mold.
Lee started offering stocks with pigment in the shell around 1979. These were quite well finished out and needed very little in the way of filling.
In the early days of the 6BR ('79 as I recall), Lee's daughter, Cindy, offered formed 6 BR brass for those who wanted to pay 50 cents apiece. When you consider that the original brass started out as, essentially, 308 with a small primer pocket, forming was a chore which was certainly worth avoiding.
The last time I spoke with Lee was in the late '90's and he was in poor health at the time. He was a good guy. GD
Originally Posted by greydog
There were features I never saw in a Lee Six stock but did see in a Brown Precision. I never had a Lee Six stock with a large void behind the recoil lug. I never got a Lee Six stock with a flexible butt. I never got a Lee Six stock which used a hot dog wrapper as a filler in the forearm. These are all things I saw in BP stocks. No question, Lee's stocks were a bit heavier, but they were also stronger, more rigid, and better finished, out of the mold.
Lee started offering stocks with pigment in the shell around 1979. These were quite well finished out and needed very little in the way of filling.
In the early days of the 6BR ('79 as I recall), Lee's daughter, Cindy, offered formed 6 BR brass for those who wanted to pay 50 cents apiece. When you consider that the original brass started out as, essentially, 308 with a small primer pocket, forming was a chore which was certainly worth avoiding.
The last time I spoke with Lee was in the late '90's and he was in poor health at the time. He was a good guy. GD

Funny, some people here think the BP stock is the end all fiberglass stock.
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