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Not wanting to rehash the history of the Remington 3200 and the Krieghoff K-80...

Or wanting to debate the finest points of design and fit, quality, and finish...


But do the Remington 3200 and the Krieghoff K-80 have very similar feels and handling characteristics to the field hunter and clay target shooter ?

If the shotgun shooter found one of them to his liking in shooting characteristics would the shooter likely feel the same about the other one ?



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Aren't they exactly the same gun?

I've shot both quite a bit and they don't swing or feel the same to me at all. A friend has a 3200 (trap setup) that I've shot quite bit on pigeons and I can shoot lights out with it. I shoot it far better than any gun I own. The gun handles quick and allows me to get on target quick. Pigeon shooting is reaction based and I've done well with it.

The Krieghoffs I've shot have all been sportings (32 or 34 inch barrels). They've handled much smoother than the 3200, but I didn't shoot them nearly as well either. The krieghoff seems to swing the same, no matter what shot is presented.

I hope that helps a little.

The Rem 32 is similar to the Krieghoff 32.The Rem 3200 shouldn't be used in the same sentence as the 32 or K-80 as far as quality goes.

While they have the same lockup all similarities end there. Other than with a passing glance one may confuse the two. They are worlds apart in how they handle and the care that goes into their making. The K-80 is the Grandchild of the 3200, but has improved his place.

For any who think they are the same, take the stock off and look inside. Admittedly if they were not made to the highest level they just wouldn't work. But they are and they do.

To answer your question: A good shooter will shoot either with skill, but given a choice the vast majority would overwhelming choose the K Gun.

you can keep both they are ugly!

Swing like a 2x6 as well..

Actually the only thing about them I like is they swing well for me.

I've tried to like them along with MX-8's and they just don't do it for me. Very well made though.

well made to many damn parts. And ugly as sin.

The K-80 is, except for Olympic-style trap, one of the best choices for competitive shotguns events. It's a modular design that allows for the quick and easy changing of butt stocks and forends as well as barrels so that one receiver can do a great job as a skeet gun (add 28" or 30" barrels with sub-gauge tubes) and you'll have the gun that most of the top skeet shooters use ---- put a monte carlo stock on it along with a set of 32" O/U barrels for doubles and add a 34" unsingle barrel for singels and handicap and you're ready to go -- change the wood and you've got a sporting clays gun as long as your barrels have screw-in chokes - I've shot a K-80 for years and a Krieghoff Model 32 before that and NEVER had a part break ---- NEVER.

Someone mentioned Perazzi --- another great gun --- I also put a lot of rounds down an early MX-8, had it rebuilt twice and the only part that broke was a trigger spring which took about 5 minutes to replace. Both great guns-- I shoot them both and prefer the K-80 for Skeet and the Perazzi for Trap -- shoot a Beretta 391 for Sporting Clays.

And comparing the Remington 3200 to a Krieghoff of any kind is like comparing stock Chevy to one modified by NASCAR -- superfically they look alike but that's about it.

While I have to agree they can be on the sluggish side there is also the old adage of "easy to start, easy to stop" when it comes to being too light in weight.

However, if one can find one of the older lightweight barrels with fixed chokes they become much quicker. I just leave LM/LM or LM/M in all the time so chokes are essentially a non-issue.

The looks are an acquired taste without question.
However, they are often extremely attractive when it comes to resale. Have an individual that is presently after mine. If I decide to sell at the agreed price I will be out $500. after using it for 3 years.

A Remington 3200 was the only gun I could shoot 25 straight with in skeet. I like the fast lock time.

My Rem. 3200 trap grade has brought home more turkeys than any other of my shotguns.

Frozen ones, that is, won at turkey shoots........

Then for lock time you would love a Blaser.

No. Unfortunately, they are not the same gun and the price reflects it.

I am lucky to have inherited two of the original Rem 32 from my grandfather that I believe were produced before World War 2.

Remington quit making the Model 32 sometime after WW2 and Hal Dupont bought the rights to the gun in the mid 50s. Kreighoff then began making the K32. In 1973, Remington introduced the 3200 which has the same locking mechanism and ventilated barrels but it quite different otherwise.

In 1980, the K80 was brought about by some refinements of the K32, most notably in the trigger.

At least this is my understanding but I haven't verified that it's all the truth.

That's a difficult question to answer. So much of feel and handling characteristics are based upon the stock design, barrel length, weight, etc. It really depends upon how the guns are "set up." There are endless ways to set up a K80, and I am sure you could copy a design to get a similar "feel" with a 3200.