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Posted By: westerner New Illion Marlins? - 07/16/11
I have "heard" that the new Marlin lever-actions produced in Illion have had
some problems. Is there any truth to the rumor? Thanks sincerely.
Posted By: Gene L Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/16/11
I don't know if they've had problems mechanically, but the new ones I've seen are awful. The grip is fat, the wood/metal has gaps, was proud of the reciever, and on two I saw, the front sights weren't mounted straight.

I noticed these at two different shops because I'd heard they were sub par, and I intentionally looked at them for that purpose. One was a Guide Gun, the other I don't remember. Sad to see this happen to a once-pround brand.
Posted By: Jayhawker Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/17/11
The rumors seem to be true, whether it's new workers or improperly set up equipment, I don't know. Poor fit, barrels not square with the receiver, tool chatter in the rifling, and crooked sights are just some of the more common things I've heard about and seen. The QC team must have been left behind in North Haven. Just waiting now to see if they get their act together.
Posted By: 444Matt Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/17/11
Check out www.MarlinOwners.com for the full story on what happened at Marlin.

Really sad story, they were one of the finest gun manufactures out there.

Long story short, if you're in the market for a Marlin, look for one with the JM stamp that was made in New Haven.
Posted By: hawkins Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Can't find the story, What is the title?.
Posted By: Swampman700 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
I have one, and it looks and shoots great. Some of the ones I looked at had poor wood to metal fit in the tang area. The wood has been much fatter for years. At least Marlin was saved from bankruptcy. As the new employees have figured out what they are doing things have improved.

Glad to have them under the Remington roof.
Posted By: maddog Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Originally Posted by hawkins
Can't find the story, What is the title?.



You have to log on, as a member. There is a forum called the "marlin rant forum". It's got all the stories there.


maddog
Posted By: Nrut Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
I don't have any of the Marlins made at their new plant..
If the new ones are worse that the ones made in the the last 20 years then they are indeed a POS..

Examples of the ones I have made before the move to Illion..
1. Guide Gun: Grinding marks on tang reciever area very poor metal/wood fit..
2. 38-55CB: .3815" groove dia. chamber only large enough to except a .379 cast bullet using the thinner Starline brass..
Factory ammo keyholes..
3. 25-20 made in the the early 90's oversized chamber, and grossly so.. A reloaded round looks like it has a double bottle neck..

I will say that the two 1894's that I have in .357 shoot very well and the guide gun shoots cast well also..

Yeah I know the ones you all have are a thing of beauty and shoot a one hole, one shot group! (all day long).. laugh
Posted By: Swampman700 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Most of my Marlins will shoot MOA or close to it. They are scoped.
Posted By: oldman1942 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Lots of "I saw", "I heard" and so on. Still no side by side pictures of the same model with real detail to show all the "imperfections" ?

Maybe five of each with the "real" Marlins being post 2006 production.

The 700 remains the most popular bolt action commercial rifle in the world. They sure are "fooling all the people all the time" (to paraphrase Honest Abe).

I have owned a lot of pre 336 Marlins. All were great rifles. Tried some 336s but compared to their earlier models they are clubs and butt ugly regardless of what city they are made in. They may shoot well but as long as there are 99 Savages (calibers up to 358 win) and 1886 Winchester (thumpers), I see no reason to own any 336. I will admit the BLR is even more ugly.

This is a good looking lever action, that Savage could be making today (given CNC, new casting techniques (RUGER !), the availabilty of fine Turkish walnut, short action beltless magnums and so on) BUT they are not because there is no forseen demand to cover the setup costs. sad but true.

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Posted By: temmi Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Mine and my son's 450Marlins are very nice rifles...

I want a new 45Colt Lever action� one I can mount a receiver sight.... but I am worried about all the reported problems with the "New" Marlins...


I was hoping for a more Winchester-like outcome...

I'm interested to hear from "those in the Know", the Gunwriters.

Snake
Posted By: oldman1942 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
That's good ! Gunwriters ? Ask all the EXPERTS on here. All gunwriters on on the take, shills for (fill in the blank) company.

Obviously some dolt living in a corn field in Indiana, with photoshopped deer pictures knows more than Craig Boddington about the correct choice for equipment and experience to hunt Cape Buffalo.

I can only imagine what these jerks would have thought about the famous annual Olin Farms gatherings "back in the day" when all the "no nothings" like JOC, Elmer Keith, Warren Page and so were attending !

We'll never see the pictures of the new/old Marlins because allegations are almost never supported with hard facts.

Good luck with your 45, should be a real thumper with 300 gr hardcasts !
Posted By: savage62 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
This is globel now ,these writers even those of us 95% will never do any hunting but of the U.S.
Posted By: temmi Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Originally Posted by goodiewrench
That's good ! Gunwriters ? Ask all the EXPERTS on here. All gunwriters on on the take, shills for (fill in the blank) company.

Obviously some dolt living in a corn field in Indiana, with photoshopped deer pictures knows more than Craig Boddington about the correct choice for equipment and experience to hunt Cape Buffalo.

I can only imagine what these jerks would have thought about the famous annual Olin Farms gatherings "back in the day" when all the "no nothings" like JOC, Elmer Keith, Warren Page and so were attending !

We'll never see the pictures of the new/old Marlins because allegations are almost never supported with hard facts.

Good luck with your 45, should be a real thumper with 300 gr hardcasts !



Even though there are some (Many) acknowledged experts who are not Gunwriters, that is no reason to impugn the credibility of Gunwriters, especially the ones who join us here..

No one forces them to come here and reply to us....


And


While I share your admiration of Craig Boddington� he too is a Gunwriter�.


Snake
Posted By: stray round Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Not all the NH Marlins made in the last twenty years or so were perfect either. Seems like many gun companies leave QC to the customer.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Maybe you would prefer getting your information from a photo-shopping pathological liar who splits his time between Pinedale, WY, and Key West, FL.

JEff
Posted By: jimmyp Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
+1 however I am not sure he is a pathological liar or a congenital liar, or perhaps the two terms mean the same, but he a low down shiftless skunk and a liar non the less.


In 2022 geneticists made a remarkable discovery. Among people who are just incapable of telling the truth, one in five is a congenital liar. That is, their constant lying is the result of a specific genetic defect. Now, scientists at Emory University in Atlanta have created a new drug that treats genetically congenital lying. Initial experiments indicate that the drug is safe and effective. FDA approval for the drug is expected in one or two years.

In the vernacular, a congenital liar is someone who just cannot tell the truth. Now, medical scientists tend to use the term "genetically congenital liar" for those people who are genetically destined to be liars.
Posted By: moosemike Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Originally Posted by Gene L
I don't know if they've had problems mechanically, but the new ones I've seen are awful. The grip is fat, the wood/metal has gaps, was proud of the reciever, and on two I saw, the front sights weren't mounted straight.

I noticed these at two different shops because I'd heard they were sub par, and I intentionally looked at them for that purpose. One was a Guide Gun, the other I don't remember. Sad to see this happen to a once-pround brand.



I've used the Marlin 336 since I was a youngster and the new ones feel dopic to me with the fat grip and all.
Posted By: rahtreelimbs Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
Originally Posted by Swampman700
I have one, and it looks and shoots great. Some of the ones I looked at had poor wood to metal fit in the tang area. The wood has been much fatter for years. At least Marlin was saved from bankruptcy. As the new employees have figured out what they are doing things have improved.

Glad to have them under the Remington roof.



Marlin decided to sell............they were not going bankrupt!
Posted By: Nessmuk Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/19/11
I hope they get their act together. We need every job around here we can get. Liberals have run us into the dirt and circled back to wipe their feet on the remains.
Lost the air base, lost the copper wire mills, lost Revere silver, lost Ethan Allen furniture to name a few, now maybe losing the prison.
Posted By: oldman1942 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
geez, it was a JOKE. The Trolls on here who think they are experts are the ones I was mocking.

Just keep reading down the page and you'll meet some.

You'll note lots of childish name calling, no evidence to back their lies and you can go through all their posts and you'll never find any evidence of any successful big game hunting beyond some little Whitetail or feral pig.

You will also note that they never stay on topic, pirate the thread and try and turn the thread into an interpersonal pizzing contest.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Posted By: smokepole Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
Originally Posted by goodiewrench
geez, it was a JOKE.


Nothing like true colors showing......
Posted By: elkhuntinguide Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
Originally Posted by goodiewrench
geez, I'm a JOKE.


Fixed it for ya Turbo...
Posted By: oldman1942 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
*** You are ignoring this user ***
Posted By: oldman1942 Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
*** You are ignoring this user ***
Posted By: jimmyp Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
I thought Rick kicked OldMan off this forum for something to do with sales in the classified section? Hmmm I guess he has to track him down and do it again.
Posted By: temmi Re: New Illion Marlins? - 07/20/11
Originally Posted by goodiewrench
geez, it was a JOKE. The Trolls on here who think they are experts are the ones I was mocking.

Just keep reading down the page and you'll meet some.

You'll note lots of childish name calling, no evidence to back their lies and you can go through all their posts and you'll never find any evidence of any successful big game hunting beyond some little Whitetail or feral pig.

You will also note that they never stay on topic, pirate the thread and try and turn the thread into an interpersonal pizzing contest.

Sorry for the misunderstanding.



Sorry

I missed the joke.


Thanks
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