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Anyone else read his article on pages 38-40 on necking down the 300 WSM to 6.5?

If I wanted to get someone to convert a 270 WSM, would it be worth it?

dww
I don't read Outdoor life anymore.
Are these two different cartridges, or is said scribe trying to tell us that he "patented "another wildcat?
I have used a 6.5WSM for a couple of years now and just love it, mainly because of the many target bullets and hunting bullets available for it, and it's a wildcat, also! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Catnthehat
sir hat,

tell me about your rifle?

dww
PM sent, DW! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Catnthehat
DW,I love this rifle for shooting 1,000 yard stuff!
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YUP, Carmichel is trying to tell us that HE created the FIRST 6.5X300 WSM.

Hopefully, the article will push some of the Winchester people to come out with the 6.5 WSM soon.
I'm thinking I just might have to build one of those on a SUCKS action
David-for what it is worth, I believe us gun loonies can find a lot of ways of micro managing a worth of a round...grins.

I find some appeal to the round but mainly for shooting at ranges in from 500-1000. I kind of believe that somewhere past 500 the 6.5 is gonna take over a lot of other rounds.

But, for your every day shooter to say 350 I see not much reason other than want! And want can and certainly should be more than enough. I'd say as long as someones family doesn't suffer because of decisions of want then I'd say Powder River let er rip and have at it.

At least that is how I look at it.

Have a super day.

Dogz
Carmichael is really in a tailspin these days. Most recently his putrid piece on the 270 and now this back patting drivel.

Any of you with much experience with the other 6.5's will see how anemic the velocities he reported for them to shore up his purported wildcat.

I think the guy is very knowledgeable and a good target shooter, but has one serious ego problem!

He is the first mainstream gunwriter to write about this particular wildcat as far as I can remember though and I guess he feels like that gives him bragging rights. He thinks he invented the 260 Rem as well.

Oh well, I guess those of us with 264 mags and 6.5-284's are relegated to shooting sparrows in our backyards as they are good for much else...
I am not going to argue who had what first, but mine has already been through a few seasons as well. I'll go at least read the article for free at Barnes and Noble.

After JB's article on the 264, I feel mine is right where it is supposed to be or just a tad warm with 3140 fps from a 26 Lilja with 140's. I finally got it nailed down after some hiccups, and am pleased with its progress as well.

I find that when you neck down from 270 to 264 the cases are a bit short, so does that mean I can change the offical length and name mine the 264 Turd Burgler ????
Sorry JJ, I necked the .270 to .264 years ago. I call it the 6.5 Butt Munch. I would submit an article to OL, but they would decline to publish it and someone may steal the idea. The quality of OL has been in steep decline in the last 10-15 years!
Took ya 8 1/2 years to come up with that come back?



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I was enamored with the idea of a 6.5 WSM for a long time. Until I realized that it would have the shortcomings that all the WSMs have when stuck in a short action: limited mag space, limited in bullet seating depth or COL, and variable feeding reliability. In a std length action, with a longer magazine and some throating that would allow me to seat long bullets long, I'd have my gun. But a factory wouldn't mass-produce it, so it would be a custom or semi-custom build. As it should be. And really, with the 270 WSM and 150 gr long-range bullets, it isn't missed.
Quite a few guys going the 6.5 SAUM route, one on here with a beautiful GAP rifle and many following on Snipers hide.
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
I was enamored with the idea of a 6.5 WSM for a long time. Until I realized that it would have the shortcomings that all the WSMs have when stuck in a short action: limited mag space, limited in bullet seating depth or COL, and variable feeding reliability. In a std length action, with a longer magazine and some throating that would allow me to seat long bullets long, I'd have my gun. But a factory wouldn't mass-produce it, so it would be a custom or semi-custom build. As it should be. And really, with the 270 WSM and 150 gr long-range bullets, it isn't missed.



I have none of those problems in my 300WSM MRC.In my Tikka 270WSM I am limited to length,but still am getting 3,300 FPS with Magnum and a 130 grain pill with sub inch groups all day.I guess I do not see any draw backs. smile
I just bought a 6.5 pipe that will be plumbed into a 6.5 short mag of some flavor. All this talk of the limitations reminds me of naysayers of the 284 in a short action. I'll admit, that to wring out every bit of potential of any of the short mags, mag length is the issue. But I've been down that road. I built a 6.5 WSM on a LA (actually, EddyBo built it...its a laser), but I'm goin' SA for a 6.5 short mag this time. It's all about trade-offs and what you like. And for a dedicated deer rifle, for my style of hunting, it's a SA for me.
Wow--talk about a resurrection.
Originally Posted by DakotaDeer
Wow--talk about a resurrection.


Very bigsqueeze-esque.
Short actions are the schnizel.
Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
I was enamored with the idea of a 6.5 WSM for a long time. Until I realized that it would have the shortcomings that all the WSMs have when stuck in a short action: limited mag space, limited in bullet seating depth or COL, and variable feeding reliability. In a std length action, with a longer magazine and some throating that would allow me to seat long bullets long, I'd have my gun. But a factory wouldn't mass-produce it, so it would be a custom or semi-custom build. As it should be. And really, with the 270 WSM and 150 gr long-range bullets, it isn't missed.



I have none of those problems in my 300WSM MRC.In my Tikka 270WSM I am limited to length,but still am getting 3,300 FPS with Magnum and a 130 grain pill with sub inch groups all day.I guess I do not see any draw backs. smile


It doesn't mean much to hunters, but for target shooters, seating below the neck-shoulder juncture is bad juju because a ridge of brass can develop inside there that hurts accuracy.
Originally Posted by BarryC
Originally Posted by Huntz
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
I was enamored with the idea of a 6.5 WSM for a long time. Until I realized that it would have the shortcomings that all the WSMs have when stuck in a short action: limited mag space, limited in bullet seating depth or COL, and variable feeding reliability. In a std length action, with a longer magazine and some throating that would allow me to seat long bullets long, I'd have my gun. But a factory wouldn't mass-produce it, so it would be a custom or semi-custom build. As it should be. And really, with the 270 WSM and 150 gr long-range bullets, it isn't missed.



I have none of those problems in my 300WSM MRC.In my Tikka 270WSM I am limited to length,but still am getting 3,300 FPS with Magnum and a 130 grain pill with sub inch groups all day.I guess I do not see any draw backs. smile


It doesn't mean much to hunters, but for target shooters, seating below the neck-shoulder juncture is bad juju because a ridge of brass can develop inside there that hurts accuracy.


I have never seen that on the inside of a case,but I have on the outside and you can just turn it off . smile
Originally Posted by HuntnShoot
I was enamored with the idea of a 6.5 WSM for a long time. Until I realized that it would have the shortcomings that all the WSMs have when stuck in a short action: limited mag space, limited in bullet seating depth or COL, and variable feeding reliability. In a std length action, with a longer magazine and some throating that would allow me to seat long bullets long, I'd have my gun. But a factory wouldn't mass-produce it, so it would be a custom or semi-custom build. As it should be. And really, with the 270 WSM and 150 gr long-range bullets, it isn't missed.


How many 150gr long range .277's do you have to choose from wink
Originally Posted by RDW


How many 150gr long range .277's do you have to choose from wink

At least 2 mass-produced: Bergers and Noslers. Either one makes the 270 into a viable LR caliber.
Originally Posted by BarryC
It doesn't mean much to hunters, but for target shooters, seating below the neck-shoulder juncture is bad juju because a ridge of brass can develop inside there that hurts accuracy.


I always heard that was a potential when you neck up a cartridge (thicker brass in the body than neck) but not when you neck down. But I've never experienced it with either, including my 6.5X300 WSM.
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