Home
Posted By: Maine_Rifle Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
A family rifle has been handed down a generation 700 bdl 7mm magnum , locking bolt safety, blued stainless steel barrel , no letter prefix on serial number .

The only issue is when loading the rifle and closing the action , the action appears to bind slightly before closing fully, have tried different factory and ha loads with no difference .

Do not feel it is ammunition related as after closing the bolt and partial open without extraction you can close the bolt with no effort .

Is this maybe a lubrication issue cocking the action ?

Can I lubricate the bolt normally with this locking safety ?

This rifle was a favorite of a distant uncle and hunted well for many years , it is valued for its history .

Thank you in advance
Posted By: JMR40 Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
Does it do it with no ammo? Sometimes the screws used to mount the front scope base are a tiny bit too long and will contact the bolt when closing it.
Posted By: jwall Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
M R -

A shot in the dark w/o seeing it.

Maybe 1 bolt lug isn't square or barely not sq. ?

Something to check.

Jerry
Posted By: Maine_Rifle Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
Smooth as butter with no ammo , the old actions were smooth
Posted By: jwall Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
Originally Posted by Maine_Rifle


Do not feel it is ammunition related as after closing the bolt and partial open without extraction you can close the bolt with no effort .

Is this maybe a lubrication issue cocking the action ?


Cocking should be on the UP swing after firing.

IF I correctly understand... you said "loading and closing"


Yes I have the older 700s and they are smooth.
Posted By: Maine_Rifle Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
Yes, you are right cock on open , forgot that .

It is like it has one tight spot as you rotate the bolt closed just before closing , before and after is fine . But it goes away when half re chamber the same round ( open the action pull half back and then close it is fine)
Posted By: dan_oz Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
You'll feel a little resistance as the extractor engages the round in the final stage of closing the bolt. It has to spring over the base of the case to engage in the extractor groove. Of course you won't feel it do that if you raise and lower the bolt handle again, because the extractor has already engaged. If it is unduly difficult you might have a good close look at the extractor - it might need a bit of a clean.
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
Sounds like it might be lack of lubrication or wear on the cocking notch on the rear of the bolt, where the nose of cocking piece sits.
Posted By: Sakoluvr Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
+1. Check the extractor. Make sure there is no brass under it and that it is correctly positioned.
Posted By: jwall Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
dan -
I hadn't thot of the extractor. Good point.

M D - yep, another possibility but in all the 700s I've had and have I've never felt that.

Hopefully you'll find a MINOR problem and so far it doesn't sound like a biggun!

Jerry
Posted By: Mule Deer Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
I've felt it a little with the cocking notch on some actions, but the extractor issue makes more sense.
Posted By: luv2safari Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/25/15
Originally Posted by Sakoluvr
+1. Check the extractor. Make sure there is no brass under it and that it is correctly positioned.



That was my first thought. I had a 721 '06 that had crud under the extractor when I bought it ( real cheap) and was similar to yours. All cleaned up it was slick from then on.
Posted By: jwall Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/27/15
Hey Maine ! (pun intended)

How bout an update ? progress ? find/fix?


Jerry
Posted By: bearbacker Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/27/15
Originally Posted by dan_oz
You'll feel a little resistance as the extractor engages the round in the final stage of closing the bolt. It has to spring over the base of the case to engage in the extractor groove. Of course you won't feel it do that if you raise and lower the bolt handle again, because the extractor has already engaged. If it is unduly difficult you might have a good close look at the extractor - it might need a bit of a clean.


THIS ^^^^^^^^^
Posted By: Maine_Rifle Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/27/15
Fantastic , I have the tool to disassemble the bolt , beats a dime by a long shot . I have never removed an extractor and will have to do some homework .

Thank you for your help and will advise this weekend.
Posted By: Maine_Rifle Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/27/15
Appears I will need a new extractor if I remove the old , I actually was confusing ejector with extractor originally ,extractor is easier
Posted By: drover Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/27/15
No need to remove the extractor to clean it, if there is brass build up under it then use a wire or copper brush to remove it or barring that use something short pointed to scrape the copper from under it.

drover
Posted By: AJ300MAG Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/27/15
Originally Posted by drover
No need to remove the extractor to clean it, if there is brass build up under it then use a wire or copper brush to remove it or barring that use something short pointed to scrape the copper from under it.

drover


Ya you want to be carefull digging under the extractor. They can be bent and rendered totally useless. Odds are it's the riveted style, Brownells has been out of them for a while...
Posted By: Sakoluvr Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/28/15
They can be adjusted:

https://www.brownells.com/userdocs/learn/Inst-562%20Rem.pdf
Posted By: Maine_Rifle Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/28/15
Gentlemen , you were exactly right ,small amount of brass and goo under extractor . Lubricate the rear of the action for good measure .

Issue resolved , nice smooth old Remington .

Thanks for the help .
Posted By: jwall Re: Vintage 700 bdl ? - 08/28/15
That's great. Glad YOU could fix/cure it.

Happy Shooting.

Jerry
© 24hourcampfire