Decided I need to scratch an itch, a longer range hunting rifle. 7X64 or 280. What rifle? Sauer 101, Sako Grizzly, Cooper, Steyr, or Kimber? I read JB's article in American rifleman about the Sauer 101 and Mauser 12. Wonder if JB bought one? I have owned Steyr's and Sako's, but do not know Sauer's or Coopers. Kimbers I am mixed on, seems they are really good or really poor. Any will be in the $2500 range, and for that money I am looking for some feedback and recommendations from those who own any of these rifles.

You know all you need to know.

+one on the sako!

Ed

What Sako model?

Is the Sako CRF?

Does the Sako safety control the firing pin?

The Mauser M 12 7x64.

If you stretch the wallet a bit more, you can get a NULA made just as you want it--caliber, barrel length, color.

The Sako is the Model 85 Arctos/Grizzy, a sort of a CRF, I believe that it does control the firing pin with a bolt release to unload with safety on. The Sako is a bit porky, weighs more than the others. NULA is a 700 action I believe, not a fan of those in general but a NULA should be sorted. The Mauser appears to be the same as the Sauer 101 except for the safety. The Steyr is also a bit on the heavy side, will have to decide just how important the extra 3/4# is..

I know people love and hate Kimbers, but I LOVE mine. They shoot and feel great!

What do you consider longer range?

Always thought a Weatherby in .257 would be a good LR rifle. Of course I never pulled the trigger as LR where I hunt is mostly 150 yards! If I lived where I could use the rifle that would be my huckleberry.

I own a Sauer 202 & it is a much better rifle that the 101, I'd recommend you try one. They are in your price range.

I recently bought a Nosler M48 and for the money it is an in creditable buy. I personally don't like it's grip but you might like it. They are available for $1,000 under your price.

To me the SAKO 85 is just too heavy but they sure shoot.

At your price point you can build a very good custom on a M700/70 action.

NULA actions are proprietary, not 700s. Shape is the same, but they are engineered for strength and lightness. Superb rifles, from all I've read and heard, but out of my price range. Mule Deer has a couple at home, and he wouldn't keep them if they weren't top notch.

The NULA is a redesign of the Rem M700 that removes all the stuff that does not need to be there, and is smaller and lighter. The NULA stock and bedding produce a rifle that will shoot everything to the same point of impact. You would be looking at the M24 NULA for a .280 or 7X64. I sure do like my NULA M24 (which is a .30-'06)...

jim

While the NULA shares some design features of the Rem 700, such as tubular receiver, separate recoil plate, it has many design differences. The NULA is much lighter and very strong--ask Nosler who used it for millions of test rounds. NULA uses a "real" extractor, not the little Rem clip, and has somewhat different breeching. Tolerances are so tight that every bolt of a given model (20, 24, etc.) is the same and interchangeable. NULA uses a Timney or Jewell trigger, not the Rem which has been subject to unintended discharges, according to many critics. Once you try a NULA, which is a custom made piece from Melvin, not a production piece, you will come back--71% buy another within a year (watch the youtube videos).

NULA makes their own action based on a Mo.700.

smithrjd,

I thought about buying a walnut-stocked Mauser 12 in 7x64, but eventually decided against it. They're certain very good rifles.

If I were you, I'd certainly consider a NULA as well. People often compare the action to the Remington 700, and in fact one gun writer who was sent a NULA to test sent it right back, with a note saying, "This 700 action has been turned down too much to be safe." Melvin somewhat firmly explained how mistaken he was, and after the gun writer tested the rifle, he bought one, a .284 if I recall correctly. In reality NULA actions are a unique push-feed, with several mechanical features very different from a 700. And the stock is just as unique, and finely made.

The truth is there are a BUNCH of very accurate rifles available today, in any price-range. Selection of one would depend on what other features you want.

You'll have to excuse me as I'm quite obtuse (if you don't believe me just ask Big Stick); but, why is this necessary for a long range hunting rig?

Because Savage_99 has been charged by numerous whitetails, and almost died several times because push-feed rifles jammed.

Come now John. Maybe he was just holding the rifle upside down. I can, however, see how such occurrences would shake one up a bit.

Jeez, do I have to fix everything!

By long range I mean 350 yards or so, not really long range.. Power line roads, bean fields etc, not across a canyon. I have a CZ550FS in 6.5X55 and a CZ550 American in 9.3X62 the Mannlicher is my woods gun, the 9.3 my large rifle. With the scopes on them neither is what I would call long range for myself. I will have to look at the Nosler and NULA's, JB sure is right, there are a lot decent rifles out there now.. CRF is not really that big of a deal to me, I like it, but have never had a push feed rifle jam on me. I do like the tang position safeties however.

Just looked at NULA, a bit above what I wanted to spend, the Model 24 starts at $3600.. The Nosler looks interesting, again a 700 style action?

Was that in his Imagination or his Pretend, because DumbassDon does not actually hunt and has not killed anything since the Howdy Doody Show was cancelled.

I have a Kimber Super America in 280 and have used it successfully beyond 300 yards. It's a nice rifle and very accurate. I also have three Coopers also very accurate rifles.