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Posted By: Grady8541 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
I am guessing this falls into the "there is a good reason nobody makes one" category.

This seems like it would make a handy useful rifle. 9mm is about the same price (sometime less) as 22mag. Plenty of power for badgers, porcupines, etc (most anything under 80 pounds I would expect). Fairly flat trajectory.

Educate me enlightened ones. Why not?
Posted By: dsink Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
I hope someone has a perfectly good reason they want work because I have always thought about one myself. Especially if you loaded the 147s and shot them suppressed.

I remember about 20 years ago seeing a Destroyer bolt gun that was maybe Danish Navy issue for sell at the gun shows pretty cheap. I always hated I didnt pick one up. Not sure if it was chambered for an oddball 9mm round or not.
Posted By: RWE Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
and here we go

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Posted By: RWE Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Drop dead sexy:

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Posted By: RWE Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
about 7 bills from Special Interest Arms....

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Posted By: Grady8541 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Originally Posted by RWE
about 7 bills from Special Interest Arms....

"7 bills" == $700.00?
New question. Is there a reason there is no mas production equivalent (meaning something the average dumbass can afford)?
Posted By: OSU_Sig Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Originally Posted by RWE
Drop dead sexy:

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Those are damn cool.
Posted By: Huntz Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
9X57
Posted By: Armednfree Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Originally Posted by dsink
I hope someone has a perfectly good reason they want work because I have always thought about one myself. Especially if you loaded the 147s and shot them suppressed.

I remember about 20 years ago seeing a Destroyer bolt gun that was maybe Danish Navy issue for sell at the gun shows pretty cheap. I always hated I didnt pick one up. Not sure if it was chambered for an oddball 9mm round or not.



Spanish actually. Some were 9mm Luger but most were 9mm Largo. It was used by Spanish police and prisons.
Posted By: 260Remguy Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
The only one that I recall seeing was a Spanish-made Destroyer carbine in 9mm Largo (whatever that is). The guy who had it priced it out of my curiosity range. I can't see much traction for a 9mm bolt, but thought that the Ruger PC-9 and PC-4 "Police Carbines" would have sold enough to keep them in production.
Posted By: RWE Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Get a Savage 223 single shot.

Open the bolt face from 378 to 392

Not sure if the 7 thousandths in radius will affect extractor from engaging.

rim thickness is 0.005 bigger on the 9mm so may need to tweak extractor there too.
Posted By: RWE Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Originally Posted by Grady8541
Originally Posted by RWE
about 7 bills from Special Interest Arms....

"7 bills" == $700.00?
New question. Is there a reason there is no mas production equivalent (meaning something the average dumbass can afford)?


yes, 7 bills is $700

$7,000 would be "7 large"
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Originally Posted by RWE
Drop dead sexy:

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Those your possum rifles?
Posted By: RWE Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
grinner require large bore
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
LOL, 10-foe Main. cool
Posted By: Ploughman Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
I don't know if it's a "good" reason or not, but the business of manufacturing centerfire rifles in North America revolves around deer hunting. No one seems to want to spend the money on a centerfire rifle if they can't use it for deer hunting, at least in theory. People(some, anyway) will buy .357, .44 mag or .223s as 'utility' rifles which might, possibly, take a deer, under the right circumstances, or "if necessary". The received wisdom, however, is that carbines or rifles chambered for centerfire rounds like .25-20, .32-20, .256 Magnum, 9mm, .45acp, etc., aren't any good for humane, sporting deer hunting, so they just won't get made, even if they might have other uses.
Posted By: T_O_M Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
My answer to that need was to get a Ruger 77/357 and taper crimp 9mm bullets into .357 magnum cases. Despite .002 or so nominal bullet diameter difference it shot them as well as the lighter .357 bullets shot.

Tom
Posted By: Armednfree Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/24/17
Originally Posted by 260Remguy
The only one that I recall seeing was a Spanish-made Destroyer carbine in 9mm Largo (whatever that is). The guy who had it priced it out of my curiosity range. I can't see much traction for a 9mm bolt, but thought that the Ruger PC-9 and PC-4 "Police Carbines" would have sold enough to keep them in production.


Yeah, 9mm Largo a 23mm case. I remember looking at one of those and wondering if it could handle 9x23 Winchester ammo. You'd have to ream it .010 deeper but who knows.
Posted By: gunner500 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Originally Posted by RWE
grinner require large bore


BTW, I believe Winchester may have chambered a few M-70's in 9mm, Dear Lord I'd hate to pay for one though!
Posted By: SCGunNut Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Originally Posted by gunner500
Originally Posted by RWE
grinner require large bore


BTW, I believe Winchester may have chambered a few M-70's in 9mm, Dear Lord I'd hate to pay for one though!




You could buy a very nice truck, or a not so nice house for what a 70 in 9x57 Mauser would bring these days...
Posted By: djs Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
A 9mm bolt gun would make for a handy large pest control tool!
Posted By: mogwai Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Hi point carbine. Not a bolt but a handy 9mm long gun. Plenty accurate
Posted By: wildhobbybobby Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Originally Posted by T_O_M
My answer to that need was to get a Ruger 77/357 and taper crimp 9mm bullets into .357 magnum cases. Despite .002 or so nominal bullet diameter difference it shot them as well as the lighter .357 bullets shot.

Tom


Or just shoot .38 Specials out of it. They feed fine in my 77/357 and are very mild in recoil and report. .38's can be bought for around the same price as 9mm's, I think.
Posted By: butchlambert1 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
I have a Winchester bolt action Mod 36 in 9mm. I think it is a garden gun.
Posted By: Sycamore Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
thats a 9mm rimfire shotshell though, correct? not a 9mm parabellum.

Sycamore
Posted By: javman Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Always thought of why not a 30carbine bolt gun? It could have been the original 300 Blackout.
Posted By: Jericho Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Slightly off topic, but I knew an older gun smith who was considering converting a Marlin bolt action 22 magnum to 25ACP.
Im not sure if he ever made it happen, as he passed back in the late 90s. Sure miss talking with him.
Posted By: Snake River Marksman Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Suppressed 9mm bolt rifle perfect for knocking off drug dealers from down the block. Head shots made easy!
Posted By: antelope_sniper Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
If .22 ammo doesn't start coming down in price, we will see more interest in 9mm bolt guns.
Posted By: jwall Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/25/17
Grady

A Marlin model 9 Ranch Rifle is NOT a bolt but short handy semi auto 9mm rifle. They are no longer made (AFAIK) but can be found occasionally.

They use the same mags as the S-W 5900 series handguns.

Just a thot.

Jerry
Posted By: Armednfree Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/26/17
Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman
Suppressed 9mm bolt rifle perfect for knocking off drug dealers from down the block. Head shots made easy!


147 grain subsonic suppressed. Might get two or three before they figure out why Tyrone fell down.
Posted By: sbhooper Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/26/17
Originally Posted by Armednfree
Originally Posted by Snake River Marksman
Suppressed 9mm bolt rifle perfect for knocking off drug dealers from down the block. Head shots made easy!


147 grain subsonic suppressed. Might get two or three before they figure out why Tyrone fell down.


I like it!
Nice pics RWE!
Posted By: butchlambert1 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/27/17
Originally Posted by Sycamore
thats a 9mm rimfire shotshell though, correct? not a 9mm parabellum.

Sycamore


Don't guess I saw the word parabellum.
Posted By: baltz526 Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/27/17
Why a bolt gun? Keep it simple and make a single shot with a threaded barrel for the suppressor of your choice. Something along the lines of a HR handy rifle. Synthetic stock with an ammo box built into it. Open sights and a optics rail. Probable have to make it in .40 and 9mm.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/27/17
why a single shot or a bolt rifle. Make it semi auto. smile
Posted By: Sycamore Re: 9mm bolt gun? - 03/27/17
Originally Posted by butchlambert1
Originally Posted by Sycamore
thats a 9mm rimfire shotshell though, correct? not a 9mm parabellum.

Sycamore


Don't guess I saw the word parabellum.


Butch,

I didn't either but the OP said 9mm was about the same price as 22WMR, so I assumed he was talking about parabellum.

Cool shotgun you have, I didn't know they existed.

.355 is smaller than .410 ! grin
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