Looking for information about the effectiveness of the 300 grain Woodleigh in the 338-06 when used on elk, moose, or bears. Load data appreciated. Reports from actual hunts and comparisons with other loads and bullets would be helpful. All would be appreciated.
I tried them and wasn't impressed but Woodleighs are velocity suggested...They work great with the extra velocity of the .338 Win. and that is my main bullet for elk in that caliber.. I also didn't like the 275 gr. Speers in my .338-06.. I would stay with the 250 gr. bullets in the 338-06, its performance with the 250 and particularly the 210 Nosler is phenominal on big game..I found the 210 Nosler out penetrated the 250 gr. Nosler in every instance in the 338-06 and the 338 Win..I suppose its the extra velocity.
Ray
Thank you for giving me the report on your experience. I prize evidence from experience more than mere theory.
dave
Thank you for giving me the report on your experience. I prize evidence from experience more than mere theory.
dave
I've seen what the 210 Partition does in this caliber. It's fantastic. I've also seen what happens when you shoot a 210 Partition in a 338-06 case through a .338 WM chamber... The deer still died though... And I wasn't the one who made that mistake...
Ray, I have 210 partitions, 250 partitions, 225 Accubonds. Which would you use for Alaskan Moose?
Ray, I have 210 partitions, 250 partitions, 225 Accubonds. Which would you use for Alaskan Moose?
I suppose for Moose I'd use the 250 partitions but I am sure the other two would work..On elk and deer I have actually gotten better penetration with the 210s but the moose is heavier boned, tougher hide and thicker muscle, so the 250 might be your best bet, I'm not sure. I am sure however that any one of the three placed in the heart lung area will kill your moose..The only problem with Moose is the decide when and where to die no matter what you shoot them with! 
I shot one with a .338 Win and 250 gr. Noslers and he continued to graze for a spell then kneeled down and continued to graze so I gave him another and went down on his belly and damned if he didn't grab a bite of grass so I shot him in the head. They can be real tough at times.
I shot one with a .338 Win and 250 gr. Noslers and he continued to graze for a spell then kneeled down and continued to graze so I gave him another and went down on his belly and damned if he didn't grab a bite of grass so I shot him in the head. They can be real tough at times.
I suppose for Moose I'd use the 250 partitions but I am sure the other two would work..On elk and deer I have actually gotten better penetration with the 210s but the moose is heavier boned, tougher hide and thicker muscle, so the 250 might be your best bet, I'm not sure. I am sure however that any one of the three placed in the heart lung area will kill your moose..The only problem with Moose is they decide when and where to die no matter what you shoot them with! I shot one with a .338 Win and 250 gr. Noslers and he continued to graze for a spell then kneeled down and continued to graze so I gave him another and went down on his belly and damned if he didn't grab a bite of grass so I shot him in the head. They can be real tough at times.
I shot one with a .338 Win and 250 gr. Noslers and he continued to graze for a spell then kneeled down and continued to graze so I gave him another and went down on his belly and damned if he didn't grab a bite of grass so I shot him in the head. They can be real tough at times.
used a 300 grn Winchester RN some yrs. back in the .338 win mag....60" plus bull moose. complete pass thru...dead right there, not surprising. Have 2 .338-06's but...would not opt for the 300 grn personally, used 225 NorthForks. The .338 win mag for moose and in bear country I have used both 250 Part. and Swifts...the 210 partitions seem to not penetrate as well as the 250 in moose for me unless it was a lung shot or a neck.
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I've used the 300 gr. Woodleigh in the .338 Winchester Magnum and especially liked the results on Asiatic Water Buffalo. In my opinion, it brought them down as well as my 9.3 or .375 did. For the .338-06, however, I really wouldn't pick this bullet. I would stick with the likes of the 250 grain Nosler Partition for a heavy-weight offering or for a more all-arounder, the 210 grain Partition is near perfection in this particular chambering (IMHO).
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Two Years ago in preping for a bear hunt I got and tried some 300 grain Win. rnd. nose. They were less than stellar in performance in wet phone books penetrating about half of what a 210 Part. did. Looking over my load records 2060fps was the fastest load chrono'ed with 57gr H4350 and CCI 200 in Win cases.These had 0.0007" casehead expansion in my rifle.Accuracy was only fair according to my records also.
nelson
Two Years ago in preping for a bear hunt I got and tried some 300 grain Win. rnd. nose. They were less than stellar in performance in wet phone books penetrating about half of what a 210 Part. did. Looking over my load records 2060fps was the fastest load chrono'ed with 57gr H4350 and CCI 200 in Win cases.These had 0.0007" casehead expansion in my rifle.Accuracy was only fair according to my records also.
nelson
RAY:
Late reply on the 338-06 with heavy bullets. I have an old 1950s M-70
that was re-rifled and re-chambered to 338-06 years ago by Richard Nickel
in Washington. Accuracy has been good with all weights but it likes 210-250 grain Noslers, and particularly the 230 gr Hawk bullet.
With the 270 gr Speer-long bullet-its like the 333 Jeffrey when kept to about 2200 FPS.It will work on moose if shots are placed carefully, but prefer the Hawk or 250 gr bullet on big elk or bear.
The last Alaskan moose I killed in the interior in 2007 was stopped with
one shot. The unusual rifle-cartridge combination was a Winchester Model 71 chambered in 348 Ackley Improved with a 270 gr Hawk bullet.The Hawks work, but are made stronger than the Speer 275 gr 338s. That 348 Hawk
bullet would also work on any bear that showed up to partake of the moose leavings.
Late reply on the 338-06 with heavy bullets. I have an old 1950s M-70
that was re-rifled and re-chambered to 338-06 years ago by Richard Nickel
in Washington. Accuracy has been good with all weights but it likes 210-250 grain Noslers, and particularly the 230 gr Hawk bullet.
With the 270 gr Speer-long bullet-its like the 333 Jeffrey when kept to about 2200 FPS.It will work on moose if shots are placed carefully, but prefer the Hawk or 250 gr bullet on big elk or bear.
The last Alaskan moose I killed in the interior in 2007 was stopped with
one shot. The unusual rifle-cartridge combination was a Winchester Model 71 chambered in 348 Ackley Improved with a 270 gr Hawk bullet.The Hawks work, but are made stronger than the Speer 275 gr 338s. That 348 Hawk
bullet would also work on any bear that showed up to partake of the moose leavings.
215 SGK is about the limit of what goes in my 338-06 Ackley. Maybe 225. 300? No sir
I would use 250 grain nosler partitions in.That 338-06 ,they hit like a Mack truck and are usually very accurate .They will hammer elk and moose .I would use the 210 partitions on smaller game or 225 grain accubonds !
IMO, the 300gr is not needed.
I have been more than satisfied with 210gr TSX's and NP's out of my 338-06's.
I messed around with some old Speer? 275gr? Never felt the need to use them on anything.
I cannot imagine anything that a 250gr premium would not handle with the exception of a body shot on elephant or hippo. Then solids could come into play.
I have been more than satisfied with 210gr TSX's and NP's out of my 338-06's.
I messed around with some old Speer? 275gr? Never felt the need to use them on anything.
I cannot imagine anything that a 250gr premium would not handle with the exception of a body shot on elephant or hippo. Then solids could come into play.