Six to eight months for delivery, Verney-Carron in 450NE
3 1/4" Color Case Hardened receiver, ejectors, flip up night sights, sling swivel studs, 25" barrels, fitted leather case and regulated with Hornady DG ammo.

Looks very nice Jorge; excuse my impoliteness but are we under 5 figures or over?

Very nice congrats

GN: PM Sent

They make nice stuff..

Great vids on youtube of their shop-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj1k2jMYhuc&feature=related

WOW hand crafted art

Thanks for the video true craftsmen at work

All I can do is drool.

Congratulations on a beautiful rifle. I hope she shoots as well as she looks.

Reward for a life well lived. Cheers, jorgeI! Very

Thanks for the video link. Amazing that they can do that kind of work with somebody watching and filming!
whelennut

Your welcome.

I stumbled across it looks as some doublt shotgun vids a few months ago.

The wonderful thing to remember is that even in this modern world, many of the the old ways are still being practiced in Birmingham, London, Eibar, Leige , Suhl, St Eitienne, Gardone, and even in the US ,Japan and Turkey.

One thing about those European trained smiths, they study at school and apprenticeships about as long as our lawyers/doctors do here from an early age just to earn a bench in many of those shops.

Even the younger looking guys are masters at what they do..

Congratulations no question a family heirloom

Seriously will you shoot it? or is it a piece of art to enjoy?

I think you should play the music while you hold it.

Hank

jorgeI, nice rifle. Wasn't that the booth I met you at, at DSC? Seems they were fitting you, for the rifle, at the time. You taking it to Tanzania?


maddog

Yep, I'm going to hunt with it! And yes MD that was me and it's going to Tanzania in 2013. Two buffalo on the menu, one for this rifle and the other for the 405 . Naturally I'm taking a scoped 375 H&H or my 340 for backup and for PG and a leopard. jorge

Craftsmanship at it's finest!

Oh, it will be shot. Rest assured. Good thing his shoulder will wear out before the barrels.

Jorge I can see I'm gonna hafta study my technology so I can post a Billboard sized " You Suck!" after that trip of yours next year....

As someone else said...congrats on a life well-lived my freind....

Congrats Jorge, a beautiful and accurate double, Been thinkin real hard on a V/C in 450/400 w/26" brls.
All reasearch so far on the V/C rifles has been spectacular on accuracy and function.

Gunner

Ya gonna let me crank a few rounds out've it first????

Very nice, Jorge. I'm envious. Why no eles on the menu? You saving that hunt for another trip?

YEAH! Why no Elephant! that rifle SCREAMS elephant!

congratulations in a big way. Gonna share the cost with us poor folks so we can dream and be jealous?

Elephant later gents, I have a VERY high maintenance wife who rightfully wants a new abode first And thanks for all the kind words, really..jorge

OF COURSE ET!!!

Fixed it for you.

Thats funny dude.

Gunner

He's seen the house we live in, it could fit in his closet!

He's seen the house we live in...it could fit in his closet

That is an amazing rifle! Congrats on the purchase. Are you the guy in the Dos Equis commercials? Well done!

R.

Nice rifle. Did you ditch the Sabatti?

Jeff

Yes I did.

Very sweet Jorge!

Jorge, whatever became of that deal you had a while back on the Heim (Heym?) rifle? I remember reading about that fiasco on AR but never did hear the final outcome.

By the way, that is a beautiful rifle, I am envious!

The name of the POS is Gregory HEIN of Spokane Valley, Wa and the company's name is/was WAFFENFABRIK HEIN. We sued him, he agreed on a settlement (seven grand), he welched on that, civil bench warrant served and that was it. Cops won't pursue a civil warrant unless the guy gets picked up for something else. So me and a bunch of other guys got robbed and there's not a damned thing I can do about it. Anybody gets him arrested and gets him to pay up, I'll gladly give them 50% of my cut. jorge

Did you have trouble with it, or just like the V-C better? Look forward to hearing how it shoots....really nice looking rifle!

Jeff

I had issues with it, specifically the way it was "final tuned." Just couldn't live with it. Got all my money back. Six to eight month wait on the VC...thanks!

Glad to hear you found it early enough to get a refund! Keep us posted on the V-C.

Jeff

Damned sorry to hear that jorge, I hate [bleep] thieves. Is he still in business??

No he's not. He is still around I just don't have the time to ferret him out and make him pay. Ideally I'd like to see him and his family living under a bridge and sharing toilet paper. jorge

Your too kind jorge.

I subscribe to Scipio Africanus and the Punic Wars way of taking care of business...

jorge, I had been sort of loosely following your double rifle
writings, had been looking at some Sabattis abeit smaller
caliber... I seem to remember a post about the shortcut method
used to regulate. Were there other problems? I am thinking
more along the lines of waiting for a higher end rifle in a
year or two, but still curious. Thanks.

Nope, just the poor regulation method. If you find a Sabbati with no regulation issues (and that's easy just look at teh crowns) and a good test target, they are good solid rifles and good value. jorge

Thank you.

jorge1 I hope you like your new double. The way I understand regulating doubles is that it can only be possible for both barrels to converge at a single distance with a given load.
You would have to pick a load and they could fire it and shim the barrels and resolder them together until it suited your requirements. 50 meters or 100 meters or whatever.
Could you please explain how they do it with Sabatti?
They probably use lasers nowadays.
whelennut

While I am not jorge - to get you a quicker answer - I
believe he said that on some Sabattis that needed a final
tweak, they cut metal away on one side of the muzzle crown(s) ,
as in a flat, to shift impact rather than moving and re-soldering the barrels.

Thanks!

Spot on Jeff. WN, as to the "ideal regulation" same POI is not exactly accurate. The "holy grail" of a well regulated double is for barrels to shoot side by side (without crossing) at a specific distance with a specific load and with a separation equal to the distance from the center of one bore to the other. jorge

Thanks jorge1,
I think they are works or art. and also very reliable from what I have heard and read.

That's the popular myth about DR's.
The barrels are 'tuned' (regulated) to shoot parallel not converge at any distance! During firing the RH tube moves up and to the right. The LH pipe moves up and to the left. The purpose of regulating is to get the barrels to print next to each other at any distance. Crossing is not a good sign of it being properly regulated.

HEY!!!

No posting "porn" here!!!

Droooooooool

That's not porn.. That's ART!


But it does look like it's built on a mono block from this picture.

+1

That's a fine rifle! Awesome caliber!