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Posted By: TXbluelacy Scoping a 458 Lott - 08/31/11
Usually, I select a scope based on clarity, sharpness, and brightness. However, for my Ruger #1 458 Lott, my sole selection criteria is not getting busted in the face during recoil eek

Now, I'm not always going to use the rifle for heavy duty ele stompers, but I also don't want to have to remove it when I want to shoot the heavy kickers, but then bolt it back on and recheck zero when I want to shoot my more routine mild 458WM loads. Been looking at Optics Planet, and there's a couple models I'm considering.

First is a Leupold Scout Scope. Saw someone on here had one installed on their #1 458 Lott and said it worked fine. I think this is a great option, but I'm hesitant to just order it without looking through one sitting on my rings. Price is $299

Second is the Leupold 1x4x20 shotgun/muzzleloader scope. Eye relief is 3.8-4.3 inches, which I like. I doubt this particular scope has as clear or as bright of glass as some of the other options, but I like my plain jane 2x20 Leupold shotgun scope that sits on top of my Marlin 1895GS. I've shot some serious thumpers out of the little Guide Gun and have never been popped. The scope is also plenty good for what I use it for. Price is $190

Third is a Nikon Monarch African scope. It's a 1x4x20 similar to the Leupold, but eye relief is 4.1-4.3, and the price is $245.

Fourth is a 2x20 Nikon extended eye relief scope. Haven't found a price on this one, but it has eye relief of 10.1", which would be similar to the Leupold EER scope, but a little smaller.

Again, don't wanna get popped in the eye and don't want to have to take the scope on and off. Any experience with Ruger #1's in heavy calibers or these scopes in particular would be appreciated. 90% of my shooting will probably be done at levels where eye relief won't be a problem, but after I get a mercury recoil reducer and limbsaver installed, I will be shooting some full power Lott loads as well.

Thanks!
Posted By: safariman Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 08/31/11
If you want to add in the scope handling rough use and abuse, consider the Burris posi lock series. I love 'em on the big guns.
Posted By: wildhobbybobby Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 08/31/11
If it were mine, it would wear one of the new Leupold 3x fixed power scopes available from their Custom Shop...fewer parts to break apart and fall out when the Lott kicks the snot out of the shooter (and scope). Plus, it is long enough to mount on a Number 1 conveniently.

I "only" have a .458, but it has broken a couple of high quality variables. So far, so good with a 3x Loopy.
Posted By: jorgeI Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 08/31/11
The 3X from Leupold, no question. As for a second choice, the Leupold VX3 1.5X5x20. Lots of eye relief on both. I've used them on heavy kickers like the Lott with no issues but I'd stay away from Burris'. I obtained one of their top of the line (for them) Euro Diamonds in 1.75X6 with the ill reticle and it's been back to them twice for repair. It now resides in my junk drawer.
Posted By: Grumulkin Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 08/31/11
First of all, before buying a Burris, check the feedback on those scopes on MidwayUSA. They're not all that complimentary.

Stock design has a lot to do with getting or not getting scope bites. I have a CZ 550 in 458 Lott and had no problem even with a Leupold 2-7X scope. I currently have a Nightforce 2.5-10X on it which I really like. I never came close to a scope bite with either scope but the Ruger Number 1, with which I have no experience, may be different. The scope for this rifle is in Talley QD base/rings and there is no loss of zero in detaching and reattaching the scope.

I wouldn't go with an EER handgun scope as you'll find the eye relief too long to work well with a rifle.
Posted By: paul375 Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 08/31/11
using a Leupold 1.5-4x20 with Leupold quick release rings and bases, its working well without loosing zero on my Win70 .458Lott.
Pushing a 450gr Barns X@ 2372fps it has a recoil reducer i the butt and recoil is managable. And no scope rash either!
The Lott is the one one on the left.
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Posted By: Cariboujack Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/03/11
VX-R 1.25-4X20MM Fire Dot Duplex
Posted By: MarineHawk Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/03/11
Originally Posted by Grumulkin
First of all, before buying a Burris, check the feedback on those scopes on MidwayUSA. They're not all that complimentary. ...


One was the culprit here: http://forums.outdoorsdirectory.com/showthread.php/104111-Model-70-300-WSM-still-not-grouping-after-gunsmithing-work!!!!!!

Posted By: MarineHawk Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/03/11
I don't know how many others like them, but I chose a Bushnell 6500 Elite 1.25-8x 32mm for my .375 Wby. If you want eye relief, it has about 6-inches of it and is an excellent scope IMO.

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The reason the scope is mounted so far forward is because it has such a huge amount of eye relief, it has to go up there.
Posted By: VonGruff Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/03/11
The Lott ( Ruger Magnum Rifle ) in my safe wears a 1.25x4 Schmidt & Bender and cant think of a single downside to the combo.

Von Gruff.
Posted By: FOsteology Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/03/11
The Lott certainly has an earned reputation for ravenously devouring scopes. I prefer utilizing the iron sights, but also have a Leupold fixed 2.5x20mm in Talley QD rings that has (knock on wood) held up fine.
Posted By: AussieGunWriter Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/04/11
My now 16 years old Tasco Titan has fired over 1000 rounds though my .460 and never slipped, changed zero or shown any sign of any issue whatsoever. It is housed in Leupold 2 piece bases and 30mm rings.

On my .416 Weatherby's, I used 1-4 and 1.5-5 Leupolds and they were also very good options that perforemd well.
Posted By: GaryVA Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/04/11
I tend to fall back on the 2.5x or 3x LEU for a benchmark on durable scopes.

I'm not a Bushnell user, but that scope MarineHawk showed above looks interesting. A bit bulky for my taste, but the specs are pretty impressive having a 5.9" mounting tube, 6" eye relief, 60' field of view, and 75" of adjustment. A 1-pound scope may throw balance off a bit, but I'd imagine a heavy rifle could absorb the extra weight.

Best smile
Posted By: MarineHawk Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/04/11
Originally Posted by GaryVA
I tend to fall back on the 2.5x or 3x LEU for a benchmark on durable scopes.

I'm not a Bushnell user, but that scope MarineHawk showed above looks interesting. A bit bulky for my taste, but the specs are pretty impressive having a 5.9" mounting tube, 6" eye relief, 60' field of view, and 75" of adjustment. A 1-pound scope may throw balance off a bit, but I'd imagine a heavy rifle could absorb the extra weight.

Best smile


On my .375 Wby, I was actually welcoming a bit of extra weight.
Posted By: TXbluelacy Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/04/11
I found a Leupy 3x in excellent condition. Can't wait to get it on there and get back to thumping!
Posted By: IndyCA35 Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/05/11
I have used a Leupold 1.5-5x20mm on my .458 Winchester MOdel 70 and not had any problems. the .458 Lott only gets about 70 fps more velocity with the same pressures as .458 Winchester handloads that use AA2230 so I doubt you would have a problem.

I have mounted a Burris Signature Series 1.75-6X on my .375 and have had no problems with it either.

To avoid scope cut, mount the scope low and as far forward as you can without getting vignetting.

To avoid getting hurt by recoil, just hold the rifle tightly with both hands and a good cheek weld. Do not shoot it off the bench unless you have heavy padding for the shoulder and elbows. I would not mess with recoil reducing devices. Others would.
Posted By: wildhobbybobby Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/05/11
My .458 Model 70 has been fired quite a bit with heavy loads...I used to allow the police recruits to fire it on the last range day of the academy, so it probably has more than 700 rounds of full power 500 grain ammo through it so far, plus another 800 or more rounds of full power 350 grain and mid range 405 grain ammo that is much more "fun" to shoot now that I am an old geezer.

It broke a Leupold Vari-X III 1.75x-6x. Leupold repaired the windage adjustment and I put the scope on a lighter rifle.

It broke a Leupold Vari-X III 1.5x-5x. Leupold replaced the erector assembly and I put the scope on a lighter rifle.

Now I have a Leupold M-8 3x on the rifle...so far, so good.

Oh, yeah, it also broke a stock, and Winchester replaced it...but unlike Leupold, they didn't fix it for free...as I recall, it cost about $300.00.

If variables have trouble on a regular .458, I have my doubts about subjecting them to a "Lott" more recoil.
Posted By: OrangeOkie Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 09/30/11
My .416 Rigby wears an Aim Point 9000.
Posted By: colorado Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 10/01/11
My CZ 550 in 500 Jeffery wears a 1.5-5x Leupold with Talley QR mounts. So far it has 400 full power (570g TSX at 2300 to 2410 fps) rounds through it, about 300 with the scope on it (I shoot iron sights with it as well). No problems so far, but fingers are crossed.
Posted By: TXbluelacy Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 10/02/11
570 @ 2300?! Makes the 458 Lott look like a little girl's toy!
Posted By: colorado Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 10/03/11
It really depends on the weight of the gun, my 500 Jeffery weighs about 12 lbs, loaded with scope and sling. A 458 Lott 3 pounds lighter than that would probably recoil harder.
Posted By: Marlin1895 Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 10/04/11
http://www.realguns.com/articles/218.htm article on the Bushnell Elite 6500 in 1.5-8x32. As described in MarineHawk's post ~6" eye relief. That base and triple ring setup on the Weatherby is interesting.
Posted By: Dhagaboy Re: Scoping a 458 Lott - 10/13/11
I have used a Leupold VariX3 1.5 - 5 power on a .458 Win Mag for 15 years with never a problem.
Most clients that get 'scope eye' is as a result of the shooting sticks being set up too low so that the client has to stoop or hunch over the rifle to see through the scope! This alters the angle of your head and brings the forehead closer even though the eye relief is (sorta) fine! The same applies to using a shooting bench that's too low! That combined with calibers that are way more than are generally used for deer make for a good scope eye!
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