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Posted By: Mannlicher Marmalade - 01/27/15
It's that time of year. Started yesterday, making the various Citrus marmalades. First I'll do the Kumquat. Looks like three batches this time. Each should yield 4 pints. There is a very short window to do the Kumquat. They are at their peak right now.
Next, I'll do Meyer Lemon Marmalade. If you have not tried this, it's a real treat. Different than Orange. I have enough lemons left on the tree to do two batches, maybe more.
Last, I'll do Orange Marmalade. This is the most forgiving, time wise, and I can do them at my leisure.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
What about tangerine ?

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Posted By: 5sdad Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
"Toads and Gatorade for tea ..."
Posted By: eh76 Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
It's that time of year. Started yesterday, making the various Citrus marmalades. First I'll do the Kumquat. Looks like three batches this time. Each should yield 4 pints. There is a very short window to do the Kumquat. They are at their peak right now.
Next, I'll do Meyer Lemon Marmalade. If you have not tried this, it's a real treat. Different than Orange. I have enough lemons left on the tree to do two batches, maybe more.
Last, I'll do Orange Marmalade. This is the most forgiving, time wise, and I can do them at my leisure.


I love marmalade. Can't understand why some don't crazy
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
well, it tastes great, and making marmalade is a great way to use up Citrus that would other wise just go to waste.
This first batch of Kumquat marmalade got a big shot of dark Rum this time. smile
Posted By: eh76 Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
You have my address wink grin
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
yeah, come to think of it, I do. shocked
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
I like all those sweet spreads all to well.

I just don't need the extra belly!
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
when I finished up, there was about three tablespoons of liquid that I could not get into the jars. Wound up pouring that over a couple of scoops of French Vanilla Ice Cream. Heaven. laugh
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
You sure know how to hurt a guy Sam!
Posted By: calikooknic Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
well, it tastes great, and making marmalade is a great way to use up Citrus that would other wise just go to waste.
This first batch of Kumquat marmalade got a big shot of dark Rum this time. smile

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Posted By: sse Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
marmalade is delicious...I usually put it on a toasted english muffin
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
Please forgive ahead, but, "duh".
Posted By: EdM Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
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I love marmalade. Can't understand why some don't crazy [/quote]

I am one. Same for jelly, jam, honey and peanut butter. Drives my wife nuts.
Posted By: rockchucker Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
love it all
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
Kumquats, before
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Meyer Lemons being processed
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finished product
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Posted By: Hydrashocker Re: Marmalade - 01/27/15
What is the difference between jelly and marmalade?

Looks like your canning this stuff, any recipes and cooking times?


Thanks,
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
jelly is just the jelled juice, marmalade has the fruit peel in it, and a lot of that.

The recipes are fairly easy, but the prep work is tedious. There are long cooking times as well, so you have to pretty much stay in the kitchen for hours.
I'll have to sit down and write a recipe. I work from feel and smell, and while I have produced some good product, it's only my second year for making this stuff.
I have a lot of hand scribbled notes right now. Need to type them up, and make a Word Document.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Raspberries and strawberries do not make marmalade since they do not have a peel?
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
correct. Preserves, jams, jellies, but not marmalade.

With the Citrus marmalades, you don't need any Sure Jell or pectin. Citrus seeds and pith have abundant pectin, and it's easily extracted by boiling the seeds.
I take the seeds, pith, pulp from the processing, and cook it in a separate little pan. Strain all that after about 20 min of simmering, and add back to the large pan you are cooking the peel slices in.
Posted By: Boggy Creek Ranger Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Learn something every day! I had always thought that marmalade was a refreshing drink made out of Marms.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
nah, it's a negro girl's name. Her brother is Kool-Aid.
Posted By: ironbender Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Originally Posted by Mannlicher
correct. Preserves, jams, jellies, but not marmalade.

With the Citrus marmalades, you don't need any Sure Jell or pectin. Citrus seeds and pith have abundant pectin, and it's easily extracted by boiling the seeds.
I take the seeds, pith, pulp from the processing, and cook it in a separate little pan. Strain all that after about 20 min of simmering, and add back to the large pan you are cooking the peel slices in.

Thanks for the explanation.
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Originally Posted by Boggy Creek Ranger
Learn something every day! I had always thought that marmalade was a refreshing drink made out of Marms.


I thought that it was that big, awkward dog from the comics.
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Now you have me wondering about chocolate moose?!?
Posted By: eh76 Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Sam what exactly is a kumquat? Miniature orange?
Posted By: 5sdad Re: Marmalade - 01/28/15
Originally Posted by wabigoon
Now you have me wondering about chocolate moose?!?


"Call for orange moose, call for orange moose!"

"We're in!"

(Post Crispy Critters commercial from years ago.)

The Chocolate Moose is located in I.Falls.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/29/15
Originally Posted by eh76
Sam what exactly is a kumquat? Miniature orange?

kinda sorta. From Asia. I believe they are now considered not really citrus, but something close to Citrus.
They are delicious eaten raw. You just pop the whole thing in your mouth, and go to town. The flavor and sweetness is in the peel, the interior is slightly sour and almost salty in taste.
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 01/29/15
Here is the recipe I worked out, after doing three batches. An adjustment here, a tweak there. Bourbon or Rum as an option. Second batch I used 1/4 cup of Grand Marnier, along with the cut rind of two Oranges. It's fun to vary the ingredients, and get different flavors.
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Kumquat Marmalade

3 pounds Kumquats.
5 1/2 cups water
6 cups sugar (2.6 pounds)
1/4 cup Dark Rum, or Bourbon (Optional)

Wash the Kumquats. Working with 12 at a time, cut the ends. Reserve.
Using a small sharp knife, core the Kumquats. Use your finger to push out the pulp and seeds. Reserve those also.
flatten the Kumquat on the cutting board, and with a very sharp knife, slice into rings. These should be fairly thin.

Place the reserved seeds and pulp, and cut ends, in a small saucepan. Add one cup of water. Bring to a boil, and then simmer for 20 min. Place this mixture in a sieve, over a bowl, and press gently to extract the liquid. Reserve this, and discard the solids. About 1 1/2 cups.

Ready your canning jars. Place them in a water bath, and bring to a boil. Reduce heat to 190F, and simmer until needed.

In a 5 Quart non reactive pan, place the sliced Kumquats and 5 1/2 cups of water. Bring to a rapid boil, then reduce to simmer, and cook for an hour, until the Kumquat slices are soft.
Measure the cooked Kumquats. For each cup, add 3/4 cup sugar. Stir well until the sugar is dissolved. Add back in, the reserved liquid. (This contains the pectin you need)
Bring to a second boil, and continue to boil the mixture until the temperature reaches 220F.
Stir the mixture occasionally.
Once you reach 218F, start checking the mixture to see if it has reached the jell stage, by pouring a spoon of liquid back into the pan, and watching how the last drops form. When the mixture is ready, a sheet of liquid will slough off the spoon. First one drop, then two drops will form, then the sheeting. You can also use the frozen plate test method. Place a small amount of the liquid on a frozen plate. Place back in the freezer for 60 seconds. Drag your finger tip across the surface, and when ready, you will drag a jelled bit across the surface.
Optional: At this point, add in the Rum or Bourbon, stir well.

When ready, fill your jars. Make sure there are no air bubbles along the inside of the jar. Place lid on the jar, then finger tighten the ring. Place jars back in the water bath, and process for 5 to 10 minutes.
Remove the jars, and cool on a wire rack. Do not tighten the lids for 12 hours. The caps will 'pop', as they seal.

Yield: about 96 ounces

Posted By: ironbender Re: Marmalade - 01/29/15
Originally Posted by eh76
Sam what exactly is a kumquat?

A damn funny word.
Posted By: Hydrashocker Re: Marmalade - 01/29/15
Originally Posted by eh76
Sam what exactly is a kumquat? Miniature orange?

That's what I call Dem's/morons. laugh Did that for many years before I even knew it was real, I thought I made it up!

The first time I saw it in the store I about fell over laughing as it looked like a prick, thought it was a prank or something. Then I found out it was actually real and was floored...LOL
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
the recipe for the Meyer Lemon Marmalade
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Meyer Lemon Marmalade

5 or 6 Meyer lemons (about 4 pounds)
water
6 cups sugar

Working with one Lemon at a time, cut into quarters, lengthwise. Make a lengthwise cut on either side of the wedge, into the center. This will remove the center.
Reserve the cut pieces and the seeds. Cut the tips off either end, and reserve those as well.

Turn the wedges flesh side down on a cutting board, and using a very sharp knife, cut into thin slices.
Yield should be about 6 cups of sliced lemon.
Ratio of ingredients is 1:1:1, so for 6 cups slices, you will need 6 cups water and 6 cups sugar.

Place the slices in a large, non reactive pan, along with the correct amount of water, and let soak overnight.

At this point, place the reserved seeds and other left over Lemon pieces in a medium non reactive pan. Add a cup of water, and bring to a boil. Simmer for 30 minutes or so, then remove from the heat, and strain. Reserve this liquid. It contains the natural pectin you will need to finish making the Marmalade.

Process your canning jars, making sure you allow enough time to bring the water bath to boiling.

Bring the Lemon slices and water to a boil, and reduce to active simmer. At this point, add in the correct amount of sugar. Stir as you add the sugar, to make sure it is well dissolved. Add in the reserved strained liquid. Let this cook for about 30 minutes. The slices should be tender, but not over soft.

Use a candy thermometer, to check temperature. Jell stage should be around 220F. Use the plate method, or the pour method to determine when you reach jell stage.

When ready, remove from the heat and fill your canning jars. Follow correct guidelines for amount, elimination of bubbles in the jars, and sealing.

Yield will be around 10 8 ounce jars.


Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
if you don't have a thermometer can you just stick your finger in to check?
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
uhhhhhhhhhhh, yeah, that's right Dan. shocked
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
If it blisters and starts to bleed should be 220 right?
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
And, -------another good thread takes a southern turn.
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
Lighten up
Posted By: wabigoon Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
If you are addressing me, I am light!
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
And I promise to purchase a candy thermometer
Actually I have a thermapen I bet that would actually work
Posted By: Mannlicher Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
just bear in mind, that the jell point temp is not an arbitrary mark. The point where the mixture jells is dependent on variables, such as sugar content, temperature, pectin, agitation and probably others.
Best way to make sure is to use both the plate test and the drip test, in conjunction with a good digital candy thermometer. The Thermapen will give you an accurate temp, but it's going to be damned 'unhandy' to use. It takes quite a while to get the syrup to the right temp, and hand holding a thermapen over 212+ temp boiling sugar syrup can be dicey. shocked
Posted By: dvdegeorge Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
Ahh I got you Sam, candy thermometer stays in instead of poking in the thermapen
Posted By: ironbender Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
The candy T we have has a clip on it to hold it in the pot at the right height.

When I say "we" I mean the one my wife uses. wink
Posted By: sse Re: Marmalade - 02/03/15
as per usual, hall monitor loonie has no contribution
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