I know both of these are very popular and I have taken some animals with the 140 & 147 ELD-M. But, I’ve never tried the 139 Scenar.
For those that have used both on game, is there any difference or benefit of one over the other at CM velocities? Thanks.

Having shot tons of 140gr eld match bullets, I'd pick the 139 scenar over it. The 140 is pretty thin skinned and comes apart pretty easily. I know guys use the 147 with good success, but they use the same jacket thickness as the 140. Will they kill? Absolutely, but you are going to have a lot of lead fragments in the meat. The choice is yours. A 143 ELDX will hold together better than either of the ELDM pills you mention.

What constitutes "tons". How many game animals were in that mix? Impact velocities? I've killed a few deer with the lighter weight variety and they held together better than I expected.

How many animals have you shot with each?

It’s rhetorical, I know the answer.

Thousands upon thousands. The bullet has a very thin skin. I would not trust it on game I wanted to eat. Unless you like the taste of lead. Here's some that had issues:






They are an awesome target bullet. That is what they were designed for. You do take your chances with them though. I guess you've been warned. Just because a bullet punches paper and rings steel, doesn't mean it's going to be a top choice for a deer bullet. It will kill a deer no problem, but why put up with the mess of lead fragments in something you are going to eat. Or do you not eat what you shoot?

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You have not shot a single animal with any of the said bullets, nor have you shot “thousands upon thousands” into paper.

Go away while the adults are talking.

The 105 gr. and 139 gr Scenar are far better than the 107 gr or 140 gr SMK on game. The SMK is not a good hunting bullet, for any thing bigger than a coyote. and the 105 gr Scenar, out shines the SMK on Coyotes. Rio7

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mod7,

I’ve used the 147 for the last few years. It’s performed well on elk and mule deer. Carried it for sheep as well, but haven’t had the good fortune to find a legal one yet. Chickened our and shot my moose last year with the 127LRX.

I had plans to make this the year of the 139, but I’m still packing the 147s around... maybe next year. Haha. Please report back, if you do use the 139. Since you’re familiar with the 147, I’d appreciate your thoughts on the 139.

So far my results with ELD-M have been pretty good. I’ve taken 2 Mule deer bucks, 1 goat and a couple pronghorn with the 140 ELD-M Also taken 1 Mule deer, 1 Ram and 2 mountain caribou with the 147 ELD-M.

Now I’m just curious about trying the 139 Scenar because of how well liked it is. I definitely like using one bullet for everything. No real need to change I guess, except 147’s we’re tough to get for awhile, just wondering what differences on game between the two. Maybe one is better suited to higher velocities than the other? Mine is a 20” CM with muzzle velocity of 2650 fps with the 147’s.

140 eld-ms have been used by my mate on now 7 grizz the last 2 seasons

doesn't include muskox, moose or 'bou


load the mag box, fill an ark.

Ive used both the 139 Scenar and the 147 eld from 6.5 creedmoor and 6.5 saums. The Scenar is a tougher bullet then the eld but I’ve yet to grenade one and have used them in deer, elk, bears and coyotes without issue.

Most guys blowing the Eld up likely have throats or bores that are rougher then a cob in my experience as well as some indication that land count and diameter may have some effect.

Interesting comparison on the ELD-X/M side of things....

That was really cool. Thanks. I would love to see them use the 139 Scenar!!

Big fan of the 143 eldx. Not much of a compromise made using that bullet over the other 2 mentioned.

lol

I have never used the Scenar bullets, but have read nothing bad about them. I have, however, shot probably 30+ deer and an antelope or two, with the 147 at varying distances. They have killed well, but I am sure that they would blow up worse at higher velocities. The Creed and .260 ( I have both) do not push the envelope on velocity and the 147 works very well. I think a lot of the reason that it does, is that it is so heavy vs bore diameter. I doubt that I will live long enough to shoot up the 147s that I have loaded, but if I do, then I will probably go to my standard Interlocks to take their place.

Scenars must have harder lead alloy than some others. The jacket is thin, looks about like a VLD, but holds together better. I get exits on WT’s with 123 gr. Scenars out of my Creed. I use 139’s in my Swede, those exit, too.

Tell Pat (Scenarshooter) that it’s not Kosher to hunt big game with “target” bullets.

DF

I’ve killer nearly 200 deer with the 147 ELDM

I didn’t stop at 25 or 50 or 100 for a reason…

147’s around 3125 fps from my 6.5 Gaps have accounted for me last 3-4 deer. Inside of 300 yds I don’t expect an exit and purposely keep them away from front shoulders. Much past 300 yds and they tend to exit with golf ball sized holes.

Going to use the 143 eld-x in my Gap this year as that’s what was available.

MallardAddict,
what barrel length is your GAP? What powder are you loading?
I load the 147 ELDM in mine and never had a shoulder problem, but I launch them at 2965. RL26. I get exits off shoulder as close as 75 yards.
SnT